GT6 Nürburgring Lap time board -- CLOSED - Look for new thread to be started

[Johnnypenso]

Yes, you can do an oil change before driving the car... I haven't changed the brake balance.

Cool. That's what I did in the last three, oil change, everything else stock including BB.

Another entry for the production category:

07:42.590 - SRT Challenger SRT8 '08 (Johnnypenso) NEW

I couldn't get a grip (punny) on the understeer in this car so there's much more left in this one methinks.

 

[Ali]

Fastest 3 tested with G27, the rest with DS3...


Production:

06:56.824 - Pagani Huayra '13 (Sutuki) NEW
07:02.120 - Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG '10 (Sutuki) NEW
07:02.351 - SRT Viper GTS Launch Edition '13 (Sutuki) NEW
08:17.277 - Honda ACCORD Coupe EX '03 (Sutuki) NEW
09:31.818 - Honda Insight '99 (Sutuki) NEW
09:47.044 - Toyota Aqua S '11 (Sutuki) NEW
09:59.942 - Daihatsu MIRA TR-XX Avanzato R '97 (Sutuki) NEW
10:30.529 - Ford Ka '01 (Sutuki) NEW


Pagani... finally managed to complete a clean lap in this one. Shiploads of mistakes after the Karussell . So far this is the only stock car that I've found challenging at all because of oversteer . It's quite ridiculous though, you have to be VERY careful with the throttle and steering at all speeds. And I like it

On the other hand, I didn't like the Viper '13 at all. If you get any oversteer in this car, you might as well just keep drifting as you wont be able to regain grip anytime soon. The car felt kind of floaty, it was hard to get clean driving lines in this one. 👎

 

[mohitraina91]

Production:

07:25.905 - Jaguar XKR-S '11 (GTP_gooners_17) NEW

In two minds about this car. Enjoyed driving it, and it has amazing balance from mid corner on. But there's so much understeer on corner entry, that I kept losing precious momentum trying get the car to turn in.

 

[psavi]

Production Cars

07:27.699 - Ferrari F40 '92 (psavi) NEW

I know this is a favorite for a lot of people, but nobody has posted a time yet, so I'll at least give you something to beat.

This was my first clean lap and a lot of times I had to trade speed for control. So I will not be surprised if someone can take 15 seconds off that time.

 

[Stotty]

Pagani... finally managed to complete a clean lap in this one. Shiploads of mistakes after the Karussell . So far this is the only stock car that I've found challenging at all because of oversteer . It's quite ridiculous though, you have to be VERY careful with the throttle and steering at all speeds. And I like it

Congrats... that's one very difficulty car to drive 👍

Production Cars

07:27.699 - Ferrari F40 '92 (psavi) NEW

I know this is a favorite for a lot of people, but nobody has posted a time yet, so I'll at least give you something to beat.

This was my first clean lap and a lot of times I had to trade speed for control. So I will not be surprised if someone can take 15 seconds off that time.

I've tried the F40 a couple of times, but found it very hard to run consistently at it's limits for a full lap without losing the rear on the brakes... well done for completing a decent lap 👍

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Production Cars

09:23.193 - Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto '66 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW
09:14.555 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW

I tested this two beautiful Alfas to check the differences between them and the other Alfa that I posted in #269, the Giulia GTA with a time of 09:04.398. They are very similar cars, but as you see they are separated by 10 seconds each. For me, it's a little surprise because the hp were from 115 to 120 hp. The weight is very similar too, except for the GTA, that is lighter. I guess that, somehow, PD managed to make the Spider as in real life, made for a sunny shoreside road, just to enjoy the wind on your head, and not for a circuit.

If replays were required, I have them saved.

 

[psavi]

I've tried the F40 a couple of times, but found it very hard to run consistently at it's limits for a full lap without losing the rear on the brakes... well done for completing a decent lap 👍

Its definitely a tricky car to drive stock at the limit. I spun several times but I was determined to finish a lap.

What bothers me the most is PD's confusion with secondary final drives that makes extremely long transmissions like in the McLaren F1 and the F40. I surely prefer to drive it with Comfort Mediums and corrected transmission than driving it stock.

 

[mike_gt3]

I was going to take a crack at a couple of cars in the production category but I need some clarification first.



Does this mean you can't do the initial oil change when you purchase a car?

Also, can you adjust brake balance on a production car?

Thx @Stotty for answering his question


I fixed the OP, i thought cars were not gaining power at first with oil change, most of my time were without oil change... yes you canchange oil no problem, but you cant change brake bias, everything on stock setting

Lots of new time! good job guys! my only free time go to the WRS event this week, but hopefully ill be able to update tomorrow

 

[Johnnypenso]

New times for the production board:


07:04.927 - Ferrari Enzo '02 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:23.889 - BMW M5 '05 (Johnnypenso) NEW

 

[psavi]

First I was adamant to joining the thread and now, here I am, regularly posting times. I guess I have Stotty to blame for this...

Well, who's up for more Lamborghini:

Production cars:

07:07.416 - Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 '11 (psavi) NEW

In the beginning, I thought this was a new under 7 minutes car. The Aventador is awfully fast, and grips like crazy, more than I expected for its weight. Despite being 4WD, it behaves a lot like a MR, oversteering on exit under power, but very controllable at it. Its weight shows on turn in as it understeers a lot. Brakes are awesome.

I was really going for a competitive lap here. Despite being my first clean lap, the laps I screwed were pretty far in, so I was already familiar with the car. I did make some mistakes: a missed apex here, an early brake there, but nothing major. I don't see an under 7 minutes lap here, at least not on my hands. I hope a proper Ring master can prove me wrong. Nonetheless, a very fast and fun car in its stock form. 👍

 

[raven214]

Production Cars:

08:26.552 - Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe '04 (raven214) NEW

 

[Johnnypenso]

More times for the production board:

07:42.988 - Spoon S2000 '00 (Johnnypenso) NEW

08:10.335 - Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04 (Johnnypenso) NEW

I was into a hot lap in the Spoon but just too tired to finish it. Going to take another crack at that one.

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

This time I decided to test the abilities in the Ring of two of the rivals of my actual car.

Production cars:

08:37.755 - Peugeot 206 RC '03 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW
08:34.726 - Renault Sport Clio R.S. 2.0 16V '02 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW
08:33.220 - SEAT Ibiza Cupra '04 (IBZ6L20VT) NEW

Ok, finally I decided to upload the time of the Cupra, but just to see it in the board. I have my personal commitment to get the time of the Cupra under 8:30.

I'm going to explain a little bit what this kind of Hot Hatchs mean in Europe. Probably, for the ones that live in the States or maybe if you just live out of Europe, won't understand the sucess of a FF car that is 4 meters long but has almost 200 hp. It's hard to understand, even for us. I think that the key to their sucess is the price. They are available for the youngsters. For a little bit more than 20000 € you have a car that handles lovely (despite the natural understeer) and have the acceleration of a car that duplicates its price.

Both Clio and 206 have 2.0 engines, with no turbo. 177 and 172 hp. IRL the Peugeot handles worse, with a chassis with difficulties to absorb all the power, it's like overwhelmed with the task. Fortunately PD reproduces this situation with fidelity. I am surprised with the ability of them to catch the spirit of the cars, and the little differences between them. I never faced that until I have this tests on the Ring. So, the Peugeot is nervous, constantly loosing traction. The Clio is relaxed, you get the time without effort. Probably, I could shave a second or two with the Peugeot, but today I'm tired to struggle with a rebel car.

As you see, they aren't the best detailed cars of the game. A shame.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Update to my time just above ^^^^

07:39.979 - Spoon S2000 '00 (Johnnypenso) BEATEN

 

[DTM]

Looks like this is starting to be a Chris and Sutuki show

And @mike_gt3 has a lot of administration to do

:ron:

Unfortunately true... I still feel like 🤬


07:50.103 - BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 (GTP_Stotty) BEATEN


Thought I'd see if I could pinch my 1 series time back from Dennis and discovered I hadn't done an oil change the last time I ran it... chipped another second off. There's still a bit more to come on that one, but the car isn't really very nice to drive.

Why You've really hurt my feeling :mutt: You probably spend 2 laps on it

 

[mike_gt3]

Looks like this is starting to be a Chris and Sutuki show

And @mike_gt3 has a lot of administration to do

i have to agree!
havent been able to update yesterday i got asked to work on saturday , and the only free time i had was for the WRS event.

Update coming today and i should be able to post new times in the next week!

 

[mike_gt3]

Spreadsheet updated!

@kubik94cz i will need a replay file or a video of at least one of those lap to add your times, if its legit you can take my request as a compliment! i havent tested both RUF but 7:17 seem quick for the Yellowbird i just want to make sure before adding them.
07:34.356 - RUF BTR '86 (kubik94cz) BEATEN
07:17.984 - Ruf CTR"Yellowbird" '87 (kubik94cz) NEW

 

[Johnnypenso]

Looks like this is starting to be a Chris and Sutuki show

And @mike_gt3 has a lot of administration to do

Why You've really hurt my feeling :mutt: You probably spend 2 laps on it

When did I gain the power of invisibility?

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Spreadsheet updated!

@kubik94cz i will need a replay file or a video of at least one of those lap to add your times, if its legit you can take my request as a compliment! i havent tested both RUF but 7:17 seem quick for the Yellowbird i just want to make sure before adding them.
07:34.356 - RUF BTR '86 (kubik94cz) BEATEN
07:17.984 - Ruf CTR"Yellowbird" '87 (kubik94cz) NEW

Oops. I noticed that the Clio Sport 2.0 16V '02 is repeated in the production list. I didn't see it in the sheet when I uploaded my time. Probably it was in a comment. My fault. Sorry. @Sutuki has the best time, an astonishing difference of 10 seconds. Poor me... LOL

 

[mike_gt3]

Oops. I noticed that the Clio Sport 2.0 16V '02 is repeated in the production list. I didn't see it in the sheet when I uploaded my time. Probably it was in a comment. My fault. Sorry. @Sutuki has the best time, an astonishing difference of 10 seconds. Poor me... LOL

Fixed, thank you i didnt noticed.

 

[Johnnypenso]

More times for the production board:

06:54.386 - Volkswagen W12 Nardo '01 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:01.248 - Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 (Johnnypenso) NEW

07:05.927 - Audi Le Mans quattro '03 (Johnnypenso) NEW

EDIT: The Ferrari FXX is not a road legal car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_FXX nor is the Zonda R http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/pagani/zonda/first-drives/pagani-zonda-r
Should they be included in the production category?

 

[Im_Lukas]

Production cars:

08:49.385 - Abarth 500 '09 (Im_Lukas) BEATEN

08:05.097 - Tesla Motors Model S Signature Performance '12 (Im_Lukas) NEW

There is no way a car as heavy as the Tesla should corner and brake that well, I'm really impressed if it can corner like that in real life, only downside is the top speed but that's understandable.

@mike_gt3 on the production board one of your times is in the wrong position which I'm guessing is because the time is in the wrong format, I'm referring to the Acura INTEGRA TYPE R '01, sat in 113th. Great work keeping this updated.

 

[DTM]

When did I gain the power of invisibility?

Sorry dude saw your posts but 8 out of 10 posts where from Chis and Sutuki.

Nice lap times btw

Wanted to try the DB9 as well but think i won't any more

 

[Johnnypenso]

Sorry dude saw your posts but 8 out of 10 posts where from Chis and Sutuki.

Nice lap times btw

Wanted to try the DB9 as well but think i won't any more

No worries mate, just having a laugh

Have a go at the DB9 if you want to. I'm trying to choose cars that aren't on the board and I like but sooner or later we're going to get to where that isn't an option. I doubt I maxed it out either. I usually do a few corners and figure out how it acts under braking, turn in, full throttle etc, rinse and repeat a couple of times after spinning. Then I do a base lap where I'm pretty careful, then one more to push the limits a little further but not on the ragged edge. So plenty left in them. I'm sure @mike_gt3 would shave 10+ seconds off most of my times.

 

[Stotty]

Good to see the spreadsheet updated, @mike_gt3 (must have been a massive job!) and lots of new drivers and times 👍

I've been away for a family event over the weekend, but will be back on later in the week

 

[Meesbaker]

Hey Mike your 5:40 evo lap was really a big one! I tried the Sauber today and got only like 5:44 even though Im sure that doing a setup cant make a difference of 7 seconds on my other lap(well obviously it can) but at least I hoped to beat your Peugeot time

Seems I aint as good as you on hard tyres as the C9 should perform much better than a 905, shouldnt it? I wanna know where I binned it, Im getting 1:03 on the 2nd Sector would you mind telling me yours?

@Sutuki and Stotty
I see you like my Honda laptime Im working on a high quality video about it atm! I recorded a 1 lap online race of a 5:45 converting to 5:42 on a flying lap which should provide quite some fancy video material. Im also putting up my corresponding skid recovery lap which is another 8 seconds quicker so everyone can tell the difference....The hsv-010 goes damn smooth on the ring so Ive been accused of srf-use before and wanna prevent it this time

 

[mike_gt3]

Hey Mike your 5:40 evo lap was really a big one! I tried the Sauber today and got only like 5:44 even though Im sure that doing a setup cant make a difference of 7 seconds on my other lap(well obviously it can) but at least I hoped to beat your Peugeot time

Seems I aint as good as you on hard tyres as the C9 should perform much better than a 905, shouldnt it? I wanna know where I binned it, Im getting 1:03 on the 2nd Sector would you mind telling me yours?

thx
you need my t1 of the Peugeot or the C9?

for the peugeot i have 1:02.750


edit:

Production:

07:43.492 - Spoon CIVIC TYPE R (EK) '00 (mike_gt3) NEW
08:15.129 - Honda Civic Type R '08 (mike_gt3) NEW

@Im_Lukas the error is fixed thx!

 

[Meesbaker]

Im interested in your t2 of the peugeot lap you posted. t1 is something about 36 seconds and t2 about 1 minute. Im interested in your 2nd sector time when you did 5:40 with a stock car. Im getting 1:03 what did you get there?

 

[DTM]

No worries mate, just having a laugh

Have a go at the DB9 if you want to. I'm trying to choose cars that aren't on the board and I like but sooner or later we're going to get to where that isn't an option. I doubt I maxed it out either. I usually do a few corners and figure out how it acts under braking, turn in, full throttle etc, rinse and repeat a couple of times after spinning. Then I do a base lap where I'm pretty careful, then one more to push the limits a little further but not on the ragged edge. So plenty left in them. I'm sure @mike_gt3 would shave 10+ seconds off most of my times.

I was actually ignoring you

I probably need lots of laps to beat your DB9 time. I'm not so good at the ring. That Vantage lap cost countless laps to achieve. And i'm sure guys like Chris and Sutuki beat it in no time. You probably as well

 

[mike_gt3]

Production:

07:07.987 - TVR Speed 12 '00 (mike_gt3) NEW

theres more left but its so boring to drive!, you rarely see full throttle