GT6 Q/A

[zzz_pt]

What? Link?

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Sorry guys, but what I can tell now is that the standards can have changeable spoilers only at the moment. Going to try and test a couple of other standards.
Sorry for the misunderstanding

 

[MasamuneDate]

There's 500 premium like cars in 'the other game', and i still have multiple choice dilemmas when i need to pick one.

It's more than enough really, especially if you make sure they are all cars that excite the average gearhead and there's not too much of the same, but the lineup is diverse and spread out equally over European, US, and Japanese cars from classic to present, and from slow to racing cars.

I know the "that might be your taste" argument will pop up now, but don't bother i already heard it.

I agree with you. What's the point of having 1200 cars if you cannot modify/customize a single one to "make it your own"? GT doesn't even have a classic Mustang fastback (67,68...) (one of the most iconic muscle cars in the history). Sure it have the Shelby version, but it's not the same.

 

[Firedragon]

There's 500 premium like cars in 'the other game', and i still have multiple choice dilemmas when i need to pick one.

It's more than enough really, especially if you make sure they are all cars that excite the average gearhead and there's not too much of the same, but the lineup is diverse and spread out equally over European, US, and Japanese cars from classic to present, and from slow to racing cars.

I know the "that might be your taste" argument will pop up now, but don't bother i already heard it.

'It's more than enough really' is just your own opinion (also, the latest iteration of that 'other game' only has 200 cars, but that's not the important thing here). What matters is that because you've heard the taste argument enough now, it does not make it invalid. What's more, you're just contradicting yourself by talking about a car list that 'excites the average gearhead', which is by definition defined by taste. Lol.

But then again, how would you ever make a list that excites that 'average gearhead'? PD has included the cars that they've thought would accomplish that. But guess what, because it's a thing purely based on taste, there will always be complaints about it. Some think that certain 'epic/iconic' cars should have never been left out, while other people don't care at all about those models. It's an eternal compromise.

We're getting a bit off topic here now I've realised (since it's the Q/A topic!), so apologies for that.

 

[TheGuy]

Try harder...

The irony is that you can't differentiate between a modern GT game and Mario Kart these days.

Look here:

 

[SuperShouden]

How can you say they look better on-track when we haven't even seen proper shots of them being driven yet? Unless you referring to how it was in GT5. In which case many of the on-track standards looked just as bad, if not worse than the garage models upon release.

I've seen enough of the standards racing to know they look better on the race track. All the cars I've seen in the menus have been low-rez versions. This makes sense if you don't want lengthy load times. And the Steamliner looked better in the trailer. Much better. The low-rez version, as I said, looks like it came from GT1. Which it didn't.

EDIT: Also, how come no one mentioned the Mazda RX800 as a new car?

 

[ildd]

I have put so many people on my "ignore list" in the past 2 days. Duplicate accounts so they can troll hard without their real account getting banned

@MasamuneDate GT has never been about "making a car your own". Yes, there have always been spoilers and rims, sometimes bodykits and custom paint, but that's all there has been. Thats what old NFS Games have been about. GT is about driving and collecting.

 

[mister dog]

'It's more than enough really' is just your own opinion (also, the latest iteration of that 'other game' only has 200 cars, but that's not the important thing here). What matters is that because you've heard the taste argument enough now, it does not make it invalid. What's more, you're just contradicting yourself by talking about a car list that 'excites the average gearhead', which is by definition defined by taste. Lol.

We're getting a bit off topic here now I've realised (since it's the Q/A topic!), so apologies for that.

I guess you're a little confused here, the average gearhead will actually agree upon which cars are classics... Maybe there's an oddball somewhere (like yourself) that prefers a Daihatsu or a Fiat Panda over a E30, but they will always be a small minority.

 

[dimassa19]

The irony is that you can't differentiate between a modern GT game and Mario Kart these days.

Look here:

The only car in the game...

 

[Magic Ayrton]

OP can you confirm whether there are BBS LM/CH rims available?

If not, wtf is Kaz smoking these days?

Also drinking I hear too!

 

[zzz_pt]

The only car in the game...

...that no one care about.

 

[dimassa19]

...that no one care about.

 

[STJ88]

I'm waiting to see if we can truely de-wing all (most) cars.

I can't find the reply but BHR said he was given the option to de-wing a standard s13.

OMG!!! Finally a wingless JZX100 Chaser!!!

 

[Firedragon]

I guess you're a little confused here, the average gearhead will actually agree upon which cars are classics... Maybe there's an oddball somewhere (like yourself) that prefers a Daihatsu or a Fiat Panda over a E30, but they will always be a small minority.

Very nice assumption over here:
'Maybe there's an oddball somewhere (like yourself) that prefers a Daihatsu or a Fiat Panda over a E30'


FYI, I think the E30 is one of the great classics and would certainly have loved it being included, but that's merely my and your opinion. There may be a lot of other people that disagree and that does not make us right. Your claim that the average gearhead will agree that it's a classic is just another assumption without reasoning.

 

[mister dog]

Very nice assumption over here:
'Maybe there's an oddball somewhere (like yourself) that prefers a Daihatsu or a Fiat Panda over a E30'


FYI, I think the E30 is one of the great classics and would certainly have loved it being included, but that's merely my and your opinion. There may be a lot of other people that disagree and that does not make us right. Your claim that the average gearhead will agree that it's a classic is just another assumption without reasoning.

See i mention one car and we are already agreeing

 

[E46M54]

People sometimes forget that those "standard" cars were made back in 2003 to 2005. You can´t change what they are or say that "they have poor quality"...remember when we saw GT3 and GT4 at that time and probably said "wow the cars look so real!!"...now we are bitching because we still have them...and that is the real "problem"...not how the models are compared to the "Premium" or as I prefer to call them..."the newer more actual" ones.

But if you think about it...PD had and still has a lot licences for those cars...if they get rid of them we will loose tons of great cars as well some repeated cars (this is the second problem not just the old quality).

Turn 10 got rid of 200 to 400 cars in Forza 5 and a lot of people got mad...imagine what could happen in this community if we loose the Supra, Toyota GT One, and some others...
PD doesn´t want to do that...they are preserving these models (and the respective licences for sure) for maybe in the future make newer models from them...or maybe not...who knows.
I won´t be worried if we keep one model of each car getting rid of all "duplicates"...or maybe they can put 2 to 3 versions of each, one example Subaru Impreza (no STI, the cheaper version) and the STI version. Or as in other models put a gasoline, diesel and then the expensive version...(example: Mercedes Benz C 230, C330 D-diesel- and then C63AMG/Black Series).

They are not clever enough to do something like this if they want a massive car list without so many Miatas and Skylines.
Also same with years...put the years in where the cars make substantial changes to the model...like a great example with BMW 3 series:

E21, First generation, 1975–1983
E30, Second generation, 1981–1994
E36, Third generation, 1990–2000
E46, Fourth generation, 1998-2006
E90, Fifth generation, 2005–2012
F30, Sixth generation, 2012

6 basic cars...add diesel versions you make 12, add M versions. Done. Is it so hard to think like that?

I can live with M versions alone though...and Racing versions.

To take a look at the example with pictures of each: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3_Series#E46.2C_Fourth_generation.2C_1998-2006

Man there is no c330cdi, the existing models as i know are the 320 and 350cdi

 

[eran0004]

People can complain as much as they like. The RUF Yellowbird got an upgraded model so I'm happy

Add some rims and some paint and I'm good to go!

 

[Firedragon]

See i mention one car and we are already agreeing

True, when it comes to the E30. But the rest of the arguments were not very convincing.

But really, not having the E30 is just a minor disappointment. There are a lot of great cars in the list that will make up for it. Again, there's no other game on the market that offers the packages of combined qualities that GT has (fantastic physics, weather and time changes, a huge selection of tracks and cars).

 

[Sage Ages]

Forza 5 > Mario Kart > GT3/4 > GT5/6 (so bad that they still contain bits from GT4/GTPSP)

They need to replace Kaz asap. What did they spend all that money on? this game is laughable.

Physics engine, Tire model, Aerodynamics model, graphics, licensing, etc.

 

[MasamuneDate]

@MasamuneDate GT has never been about "making a car your own". Yes, there have always been spoilers and rims, sometimes bodykits and custom paint, but that's all there has been. Thats what old NFS Games have been about. GT is about driving and collecting.

Ok. But when you don't implement customization in the game (liveries, parts and everything else) you have to know that you're assuming the risk of keeping away from your product the group of customers that'd like to have it. And this group is going elsewhere to look for it (Forza, NFS, etc). It's a big chunk of market PD is losing as time passes.

 

[Streeto]

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No, that's to do with body kits on standards, the wing removal was afterwards.

 

[ildd]

@MasamuneDate GT has never been about "making a car your own". Yes, there have always been spoilers and rims, sometimes bodykits and custom paint, but that's all there has been. Thats what old NFS Games have been about. GT is about driving and collecting.
Ok. But when you don't implement customization in the game (liveries, parts and everything else) you have to know that you're assuming the risk of keeping away from your product the group of customers that'd like to have it. And this group is going elsewhere to look for it (Forza, NFS, etc). It's a big chunk of market PD are losing as time passes.

You take risks everytime you make a game. GT has yet to get a livery editor, however they added 123 cars. Forza retained their livery editor, but lost 66% of their cars and 50% of the tracks. A game CANNOT offer everything to please every one. And, even if it happened, people would complain about the game having too much content

 

[zzz_pt]

No, that's to do with body kits on standards, the wing removal was afterwards.

He said you can change the spoilers. Removing them was a misunderstanding.

 

[Sage Ages]

The irony is that you can't differentiate between a modern GT game and Mario Kart these days.

Look here:

That was a rendering glitch. It was fixed in one of the early patches.

 

[MasamuneDate]

You take risks everytime you make a game. GT has yet to get a livery editor, however they added 123 cars. Forza retained their livery editor, but lost 66% of their cars and 50% of the tracks. A game CANNOT offer everything to please every one. And, even if it happened, people would complain about the game having too much content

Only if it compromises the game. Having too much content is something to be praised. The larger the sum of copies you sell, the better.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Very nice assumption over here:
'Maybe there's an oddball somewhere (like yourself) that prefers a Daihatsu or a Fiat Panda over a E30'


FYI, I think the E30 is one of the great classics and would certainly have loved it being included, but that's merely my and your opinion. There may be a lot of other people that disagree and that does not make us right. Your claim that the average gearhead will agree that it's a classic is just another assumption without reasoning.

The 91-94 Nissan Sentra SE-R is a classic too and it'll probably never be included, but I'm not complaining.

 

[Wiegert]

I've seen enough of the standards racing to know they look better on the race track. All the cars I've seen in the menus have been low-rez versions. This makes sense if you don't want lengthy load times. And the Steamliner looked better in the trailer. Much better. The low-rez version, as I said, looks like it came from GT1. Which it didn't.

Except the Auto Union was in non of those GT6 trailers. So I don't know what you've been watching.

EDIT: Also, how come no one mentioned the Mazda RX800 as a new car?

Might be because no such car exists.

If you meant the RX500, everyone had their joyous reaction to it the other week after the list and trailer were revealed. One of a few additions I'm glad to see.

 

[shirakawaa]

That was a rendering glitch. It was fixed in one of the early patches.

Only the front end got fixed to how it was in GT4. The sides remained pixelated.

 

[Gerarghini]

Am I the only one here that doesn't give a hoot about the E30?

 

[RcWr]

People, please stop with the damn this vs this discussion. We got a guy who already has the game and share info about it and you are ranting about freaking competition, liveries and stupid stuff like that.
Please, let's continue with the leaaaks!

 

[Streeto]

He said you can change the spoilers. Removing them was a misunderstanding.

Not once did he say you can't remove spoilers.

That misunderstanding was about body kits, not spoilers. He was saying you can ONLY change spoiler on standards, not body kits.

One of us is confused, I just hope it's you.