GT7 and SimHub Tactile discussion

[q445187]

I was thinking two of the smaller transducers from the same range might be more suitable for the pedals, especially seeing they won't receive too many fx. Maybe another small one for under the gear shifter. Then the four recommended one's for the seat.

I would not do that. The effects are made for the frequency range and power of the BDS4. Refer back to my post above about the effects on my pedals.

As for the gear shifts, they are designed and mapped to to he middle of the seat back. I would focus on the seat for now and do the pedals farther down the road, what you will get with the seat will be very satisfying, the pedals later will be icing on the cake. Mr Latte hasn't even developed specifically for the pedals yet, he has been on hiatus for a while while he builds his monster rig so I had been fine tuning the current batch, and ventured out on my own to the pedals using/testing/tweaking current effects on the pedals.

The links you provided are the correct items.

Amazon has the exciters as well, but here they were more expensive, maybe not where you are.

When you pick a seat, be certain that the entire back, and preferably sides and under are hard (and smooth). The exciters are mounted using the dual lock so they can be relatively easily removed using the mounting plate provided with the exciters. My final 2 exciters are mounted underneath, Mt Latte has 4 under there. There may eventually be some on the sides (thigh area) as well.

I don't do FaceBook, and don't do really do messaging on PSN, I don't have a keyboard for the PlayStation either.

 

[mindseye]

I would not do that. The effects are made for the frequency range and power of the BDS4. Refer back to my post above about the effects on my pedals.

As for the gear shifts, they are designed and mapped to to he middle of the seat back. I would focus on the seat for now and do the pedals farther down the road, what you will get with the seat will be very satisfying, the pedals later will be icing on the cake. Mr Latte hasn't even developed specifically for the pedals yet, he has been on hiatus for a while while he builds his monster rig so I had been fine tuning the current batch, and ventured out on my own to the pedals using/testing/tweaking current effects on the pedals.

The links you provided are the correct items.

Amazon has the exciters as well, but here they were more expensive, maybe not where you are.

When you pick a seat, be certain that the entire back, and preferably sides and under are hard (and smooth). The exciters are mounted using the dual lock so they can be relatively easily removed using the mounting plate provided with the exciters. My final 2 exciters are mounted underneath, Mt Latte has 4 under there. There may eventually be some on the sides (thigh area) as well.

I don't do FaceBook, and don't do really do messaging on PSN, I don't have a keyboard for the PlayStation either.

I'm getting closer to finding a source that delivers the exciters to Oz. Big discount for 4+ too. Check this out https://www.opentip.com/Dayton-Audi...BPe5u1uW9ZG-ZCcgqk_6efQdiSkPzDuxoCkMYQAvD_BwE

I hope to pull the trigger on these items tomorrow, but the seat may take a little longer. The buckets I'm looking at are definitely flat and smooth. Some are out of race cars. I have to either make sure it comes with mounts or find them online.

 

[q445187]

Great price! Let me know before you turn on the amps! I gotta get you situated so you don't blow the exciters right away. You will "get it" when I explain it.

 

[mindseye]

Great price! Let me know before you turn on the amps! I gotta get you situated so you don't blow the exciters right away. You will "get it" when I explain it.

I'll definitely yell out before connecting it up. I'm just waiting on a postage query from the exciter supplier, hopefully they respond quickly, then pull the trigger. Every thing will probably take up to two weeks to arrive and the soundcard is out of stock, but I ordered it from Amazon Aus. anyway. Filling out all these forms is tedious.
Just ordered the amp from AliExpress, now to organise wiring etc. How much wire did you need?

 

[q445187]

I just bought 100 ft roll. A 150 roll would have been better. As I said, I now have 12 exciters, my farthest away one was around 10 feet by the time you snake it around everything to try to keep it "hidden".

You probably already know, but to be completely OCD all wires should be the same length, so 10 times 12 was obviously more than 100 ft.

I'm glad we don't have to do tedious forms!

 

[mindseye]

I just bought 100 ft roll. A 150 roll would have been better. As I said, I now have 12 exciters, my farthest away one was around 10 feet by the time you snake it around everything to try to keep it "hidden".

You probably already know, but to be completely OCD all wires should be the same length, so 10 times 12 was obviously more than 100 ft.

I'm glad we don't have to do tedious forms!

I'll get onto the wiring, so 150' it is. I also like neat wiring and hiding it is a must.
The tedious forms were just filling in name and address etc. I don't know why my browser(Firefox) didn't autofill the forms, oh well, it's pretty much done now.
I take it that you are running two soundcards and amps, are you using a USB hub for the soundcards?

 

[q445187]

I take it that you are running two soundcards and amps, are you using a USB hub for the soundcards?

Yep! The amps are full! I have no more space.

On the USB hub question... No, it didn't work. Latte said his did, I tried 2 different name brand/good powered USB hubs, no go. I talked to my step son who is a high end video editor and knows all things regarding computing, editing, sound, etc. he said, because of his rig (higher end and motion), his wheel for example will NOT work on a hub, and only doing iRacing, hubs weren't an option, and it was cheaper to add usb ports to the computer anyway.

Interestingly, SimHub had a recent update that spoke about USB hub issues... I have moved, on and when needed I will add a USB card to the computer.

 

[mindseye]

Yep! The amps are full! I have no more space.

On the USB hub question... No, it didn't work. Latte said his did, I tried 2 different name brand/good powered USB hubs, no go. I talked to my step son who is a high end video editor and knows all things regarding computing, editing, sound, etc. he said, because of his rig (higher end and motion), his wheel for example will NOT work on a hub, and only doing iRacing, hubs weren't an option, and it was cheaper to add usb ports to the computer anyway.

Interestingly, SimHub had a recent update that spoke about USB hub issues... I have moved, on and when needed I will add a USB card to the computer.

This will save me bothering if/when I upgrade. I'm pretty sure I have enough ports on the docking station that I can connect this tablet to.

 

[q445187]

When you say "tablet" you don't mean like iPad or something right? I don't think any (non pc) tablets will run SimHub.

 

[mindseye]

When you say "tablet" you don't mean like iPad or something right? I don't think any (non pc) tablets will run SimHub.

No, it is a HP PC tablet running Win10. I've already got SimHub up and running and have tested with a few dashboards. Works great. I'll get a license as soon as I get the exciters.
I do have an old mini iPad that I'm going to try using as a dashboard. Have you got into the dashboards?

 

[q445187]

No dashboards, I race only in VR. When I test (effects) I don't use VR, or even the wheel. Testing is tedious.

 

[hawkeyez]

I finally finished reading through the whole thread and can see that Mr. Latte has done the work that I would usually have to do myself with research on different hardware etc. I started looking into the hardware and knew there had to be a better solution than using multiple two channel nobsound amp/soundcards. I also figured that I will probably need eight channels to do corners, pedals and seat. Now I realise that corners are not the go and the explanation makes sense, as I do have experience with acoustics and audio and being a musician, so the split octave frequencies make plenty of sense to me.

I still will have to look into getting a hardshell bucket seat, but I think I can make do with the car seat that I have for now and fit one or two large transducers under the seat. First, I need to pull out the debit card and make these purchases that you linked to.

Isolation and decoupling of the MDF pedal plate should be easy using rubber on the frame. Lucky I haven't finished the frame, so the adjustments will be easy. I'm not sure where to decouple the seat, under the mounts maybe?

The plastic box under the seat slides out, but I haven't been able to remove it yet. Seems to be on some locking clip device or something, it might be handy for storage. If it gets in the way, I'll remove the whole thing. But above that box the seat has a steel plate that covers the front half or so of the seat, not quite to the butt, but very close and covers all the thigh region. Looks like a great place for mounting a couple of transducers.

I was able to peel up the upholstery and embed a thin mdf board with some transducers mounted to them for the back, for underneath I did the same but tucked them between the springs and the foam. I can feel left and right, it’s quit strong, my nobsound amps are around half volume. A bonus, can’t see them, it looks like a seat on a frame with a wheel. All the wires are routed under the table I have my laptop on and controllers etc. Can still slide my seat back and forth and recline to whatever position.