As Playstations number one console specific game, how large of loss is acceptable(for gt6)?
I don't know, we'd probably, first and foremost, have prove that there was a loss to be able to speculate, would we not? I don't work at the sharp end at Sony to have an idea of what there realistic goals were for it.
But personally I don't think they were that high though, going off of the lack of any substantial advertising campaign and all personnel at Sony already focussed on the already released PS4, and getting off to the best start they possibly could, which is wayyy more important than wasting any time or money on promoting last gen software. I can't seeing it being high on there priority list, do you?
I think the inclusion of 24 minutes races as opposed to 24 hours could be considered a sign that even Sony themselves didn't want people spending too much time on a last gen console game. It also lacked any sort of depth whatsoever compared to the rest. This may be an exaggeration but I think I could have finished GT6 faster than GT PSP. So, judging by the product it could also be argued PD were already focussing on next gen too (there may well be evidence of this out there in the form of quotes of when development started for GT7, but I am not sure).
Gt7 loss is unacceptable.
Well I guess that's one for the future. I also guess we are talking about loss of income via the sales of the game meaning PD operate at a loss? First party studios can and do operate on a loss 6 times out of 10 according to Shuhei Yoshida. It is certainly not uncommon and Sony obviously don't find it unacceptable or they would not continue funding projects.
If say, for example, Halo 5 releases tomorrow, does not sell enough to cover it's own budget, but shifts a lot of consoles in the process. Would that be unacceptable? The answer is most definitely no. It would be a success for MS for the obvious reasons. If it sold half as well as the last one it would still be considered MS' bread and butter. As with GT and Sony.
And like many believe the costs for gt6&7 must be lumped together in many places.
I don't see what your getting at here. You may have to elaborate. To take a guess at what you are saying is that, basically, GT6 to GT7 is what GT:5P was to GT:5?
(if you need proof, find me and tornado going round and round and it's there; no spoon-feeding here)
No, as exiting as that sounds, I am good thanks!
But yeah, It's mostly all unknowns outside or even inside of the game for that matter, how much changes hands, and where it happens. But you would have to be naive to think that PD would do these (or even be allowed to) for free.
As far as vgchartz or any other number on the net, it's a ballpark number, which is the best you can get unless you are given stockholder information released by Sony or Msft. Once GT7 is released, PD will update their sales page and we can see what GT6 did to that point and then we will all know who is the powerhouse. 3million sales on a previous gen console
Here's the thing, amongst other places, NPD numbers are released to stockholders and investment bankers and are numbers advisor's and potential investors use to determine what companies, if any, to invest in. So if they are good enough for these sectors and all the other sectors who don't dispute them, then they are good enough for me.
VGChartz on the other hand... Yeah... It tells you something when it's very own community tells you you can't trust the numbers. I could go on and on but it's already been proven they fudge numbers, many times.
So you have a professional company that specialises in market research and is widely accepted by all parties as accurate enough data vs an infamous website notorious for being wrong, time and time again.
Anyway that's beside the point in all honesty in respects to my debate. Our argument was about the leak of the numbers not the numbers themselves from NPD. Even though I just pointed out that these are accepted.
These NPD numbers are unfortunately no longer given to the public. So we rely on leaks. We have gotten the leaks in the past via investment bankers amongst others. These leaks are backed up and verified and have been for the last few years, ever since NPD stopped releasing numbers to the public.
It would have to be the greatest ruse in the history of the internet for creamsugar to get away with releasing false numbers for all this time without being called out for it by now. Either that or a very deep conspiracy.