GT7 gets boring now…

[Zero2Oblivion]

That isn't exactly a great suggestion when the entire point of this game was a return to the series roots, that being a mostly single player game that somehow has less events and races then the previous, online focused title?

That's a misconception. A lot of us, myself included, thought that we'd be getting a Gran Turismo game akin to the earlier GT games, but PD never promised that. We, as fans, speculated and came up with the idea that the game was going to be a return to the good ol' days of single player campaigns, but PD didn't once say it would be anything as grand as games from earlier on in the series.

That stuff aside, as developers now have the ability to add content post launch, there is nothing to say that the game won't be comparable to the earlier GT games at some point in the future.

It's just a case of understanding what was promised vs. delivered, and having patience.

 

[Nuschel01]

H4 had 750+ cars and H5 about 600.

And there you have one major flaw of FM. You get cars in paid DLCs that were either included in the previous game for free or you already paid for them in that game.

 

[Ande3200]

You just don't like fun. Horizon is simcade and the best. H4 had 750+ cars and H5 about 600. Yes, some models are not top-notch. Do you know you have Forzavista? When GT will have it? Horizons are full games for thousands of hours. GT7 has just similar potential, it's not there yet.

The point is if you can't play Horizon, it's not game's fault.

Horizon 5 has for sure more content, horizon is arcade not simcade, you can actully feel that horizon feels more arcade in the handling than the motorsport games and gran turismo games, its proably going to take some time before gt7 feels like full experince,

 

[xMAXIx79]

You just don't like fun. Horizon is simcade and the best. H4 had 750+ cars and H5 about 600. Yes, some models are not top-notch. Do you know you have Forzavista? When GT will have it? Horizons are full games for thousands of hours. GT7 has just similar potential, it's not there yet.

The point is if you can't play Horizon, it's not game's fault.

Horizon 5 is "inferior trashcade" no more, no less, and becomes extremely boring in a very short time if you look for and like the SPORTY aspect and fair competition. The driving physics in FH5 is well... let's not talk about it, only that much... UNREALISTIC!
Don't get me wrong, for a quickie in between, just drive around a bit, it's great for that. What can also be a lot of fun is the editor for designs, although I find it worse compared to NfS and GT7. What I like about FH5 and the NfS titles is the variety of body tuning and engine swap options. But if you play it a little more intensively, you will achieve all the necessary tasks within a few days and have enough credits to be able to buy all kinds of cars in the game with ease.

In no area is GT7 sooo little Sim or so much Acarde that a real comparison to FH5 would be possible. These games serve completely different/different interests and target groups and that's a good thing.

 

[Johnnn]

And there you have one major flaw of FM. You get cars in paid DLCs that were either included in the previous game for free or you already paid for them in that game.

What? Every game is separate game. You pay for the licenses too. Models are updated. It's not like GT when they release one game in 20 years.

Ho rizon 5 has for sure more content, horizon is arcade not simcade, you can actully feel that horizon feels more arcade in the handling than the motorsport games and gran turismo games, its proably going to take some time before gt7 feels like full experince,

It's tuned simcade. If you play sims, you will love Horizon because you can use same skill.

Horizon 5 is "inferior trashcade" no more, no less, and becomes extremely boring in a very short time if you look for and like the SPORTY aspect and fair competition. The driving physics in FH5 is well... let's not talk about it, only that much... UNREALISTIC!
Don't get me wrong, for a quickie in between, just drive around a bit, it's great for that. What can also be a lot of fun is the editor for designs, although I find it worse compared to NfS and GT7. What I like about FH5 and the NfS titles is the variety of body tuning and engine swap options. But if you play it a little more intensively, you will achieve all the necessary tasks within a few days and have enough credits to be able to buy all kinds of cars in the game with ease.

In no area is GT7 sooo little Sim or so much Acarde that a real comparison to FH5 would be possible. These games serve completely different/different interests and target groups and that's a good thing.

no

 

[Nuschel01]

Models are updated.

 

[Johnnn]

No new sounds?

 

[Nicxk]

It's OK to be bored of a game. There is heaps to do and plenty of ways to make your own fun. But if you don't see that or are pulled to do it, then just put it down, do something else. You may revisit it in the future, you may not. Just look back on the games you play with fond memories.

I'm still playing through the game, I have all the end game content to play yet along with cleaning up races and championships I didn't gold, WTC600 for the 5th attempt... 50 hours of driving and more than 100 of total game time. There is heaps to do in the game if you find the inspiration. I spent a good chunk of my game time yesterday making a Ferrari 308 Group 4 Rally car and time trialling it around Colorado Springs, I found that immense amount of fun!

Far too sensible and measured a comment for these forums.

 

[Johnnn]

Far too sensible and measured a comment for these forums.

It's useless. If you want your paid cars you need to earn credits. You can't earn any credits with time trials. You can't ear enough credits with arcade or custom races. And then you realize how bad this game is. It could be amazing sandbox game like every good sim but it's not.

 

[Imari]

And, are there ANY car based games that offer more single-player content or depth? ACC definitely doesn't and is very multiplayer focused, iRacing is always online and very expensive, pcars.. nope, FH5 may, but I don't even count that **** as a driving game.

"There's another car based game that obviously offers more single player content and depth, so I'm going to write that off as not a driving game because it undermines my argument".

Top kek, mate.

 

[Ande3200]

What? Every game is separate game. You pay for the licenses too. Models are updated. It's not like GT when they release one game in 20 years.

It's tuned simcade. If you play sims, you will love Horizon because you can use same skill.

no

Horizon is still arcade no matter how you look at it, not as much as nfs or the crew, but still arcade, nowhere near simcade by any standards

 

[Johnnn]

Horizon is still arcade no matter how you look at it, not as much as nfs or the crew, but still arcade, nowhere near simcade by any standards

It's your view. I play mostly sims and Horizon has everything any simcade should have. When GT get telemetry info?

 

[Ande3200]

It's your view. I play mostly sims and Horizon has everything any simcade should have. When GT get telemetry info?

The handling is arcade in horizon just try play motorsports and you will se what i mean, and its terrible on a wheel, motorsports and gt are far better when you use a wheel, horizon 5 is by no means a bad game, i have enjoy it before i got bored of it and might come back for it when i take a break from gt7

 

[xMAXIx79]

The handling is arcade in horizon just try play motorsports and you will se what i mean, and its terrible on a wheel, motorsports and gt are far better when you use a wheel, horizon 5 is by no means a bad game, i have enjoy it before i got bored of it and might come back for it when i take a break from gt7

Exactly that's how I see it too, for what it's supposed to be.. it's great in its class.. but it can't be compared with GT, because GT is far more sim than FH5 could ever have. And the telemetry in FH5 is meant nicely, but has nothing to do with Sim, since the game can't and shouldn't even begin to use Sim.

It's an acarde racer and that's ok.

I'm sorry for anyone who sees it differently, but then you just don't have enough idea about it.

 

[Imari]

It's an acarde racer and that's ok.

What is an arcade racer to you? Because to me it's games like Wipeout and Burnout Paradise, and Forza Horizon is a long way from them.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Arcade for me is all about the physics. Nothing else... And maybe the "environment" where you race in like a closed race track, which an "open world" is hardly anything but.
But strictly about the physics, Horizon is arcade no matter how you slice it. The cars just don't handle like they should and in fact, there's hardly any difference between them aside from traction, horsepower/weight... Just unrealistic AF.

It's a propper game for casuals, it's in no way comparable to Gran Turismo. The games that we can compare to Gran Turismo are games Forza Motorsport, Project Cars and Assetto Corsa.

Forza Horizon is more a competitor to Need For Speed games, Drive Club, Burnout, etc. The only thing it has in common with the above mentioned is the fact it has cars and racing in it.

And it pains me to see some of the cars in Horizon (Koenigseggs for example), in a godawful arcade (I'm talking about arcades in general which I don't play them anymore) instead of in a game like Gran Turismo that puts a lot more attention to car detail than any of those arcade games.
It really feels unfair. But hey, money/contracts/licensing is what matters, can't help it.

 

[Johnnn]

Because to me it's games like Wipeout and Burnout Paradise, and Forza Horizon is a long way from them.

Exactly that. Horizon is much deeper than almost any racing game. But yeah, casuals don't see it. If you don't understand physics you can't be any good in Horizon and tuning is another part of it. It's Motorsport physics which is not true sim but very far from any arcade.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Exactly that. Horizon is much deeper than almost any racing game. But yeah, casuals don't see it. If you don't understand physics you can't be any good in Horizon and tuning is another part of it. It's Motorsport physics which is not true sim but very far from any arcade.

I wouldn't really say it's more in depth than any racing game. But I will say it's more in depth than say NFS, The Crew, and Burnout combined. You don't drift around through every corner like in those games, you actually have to brake for every corner. You even have to be mindful of tuning, performing jumps, etc. as well. There are loads in FH that actually differ from your typical arcade racer. I will say it's right there with Driveclub: simcade, although that has more to do with the fact that it runs on FM's engine but modified. It's meant to be a fun experience after all.

 

[Johnnn]

I wouldn't really say it's more in depth than any racing game. But I will say it's more in depth than say NFS, The Crew, and Burnout combined. You don't drift around through every corner like in those games, you actually have to brake for every corner. You even have to be mindful of tuning, performing jumps, etc. as well. There are loads in FH that actually differ from your typical arcade racer. I will say it's right there with Driveclub: simcade, although that has more to do with the fact that it runs on FM's engine but modified. It's meant to be a fun experience after all.

For just fun experience it's too hard. Grid is easy arcade. Without throttle control you can't do much. With bad braking you don't have a chance. You need to care about weight balance. Tuning is important. It's normal Motorsport with some exceptions. If you use direct Motorsport driving, you will have success there too.

 

[Nuschel01]

Exactly that. Horizon is much deeper than almost any racing game. But yeah, casuals don't see it. If you don't understand physics you can't be any good in Horizon and tuning is another part of it. It's Motorsport physics which is not true sim but very far from any arcade.

Did you just came here to bash on GT and preach Forza?

 

[Johnnn]

Did you just came here to bash on GT and preach Forza?

Didn't MC do it instead of me already? It's pretty clear how it is.

I just like amazing simcades so I play Horizons and GTs. GT7 could be easily good as Horizon 5 if they finish it. Currently GT7 feels rather boring like OP correctly said.

 

[Imari]

It's a propper game for casuals, it's in no way comparable to Gran Turismo.

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Who do you think Gran Turismo is aimed at? There isn't 10 million hardcore sim fans. Kaz might want to pretend that Gran Turismo is the best simulation in the world, but realistically it's a casual friendly sim-lite. That's always been it's place and that's why it's been so successful.

Forza Horizon is also for casuals, and is basically someone having the idea of "what if we took Gran Turismo, stopped being super serious car nerds and just filled a game with stuff that is awesome?" It's basically the same core game, just with dudebros at the helm instead of Kaz the turbonerd rich car collector.

 

[FoxMulder]

They need to add tons of events like GT Sport got with 300+ races. Shocking it released without it. They didn’t bumped up payouts in custom races and will kill the tomahawk cheese soon. you only do missions and circuit experience once too.

I don’t care about online and ran out of stuff already.

 

[alex511]

GT7 stays boring after update. Time to go to sleep..

 

[Dess81]

They need to add tons of events like GT Sport got with 300+ races. Shocking it released without it. They didn’t bumped up payouts in custom races and will kill the tomahawk cheese soon. you only do missions and circuit experience once too.

I don’t care about online and ran out of stuff already.

Absolutely agree with you. There were only 95 races on the launch (including races from championships). There should be +30-40 events minimum for gr2, gr1, grX. It's strange that Kaz doesn't see this problem. It seems like that Kaz think that fans whould wait for 1-2 years before there will be a lot of content. But it's boring, It's hard to stay play this game. I'm thinking to return to GT6, GT sport.
There were added only 6 events during 1,5 month. It's a big mistake. I remember that late updates for GT Sport included 5-7 events. GT7 get bored to fast. It will lost users that way.

 

[Raceface1959]

We all play for various reasons and each one of us look for different things in this game. It's okay to be disappointed by a lack of current, expected or promised content. It's okay to not be in love with the physics engine. I understand and respect where these people are coming from. I hope that Polyphony DOES come through and deliver what everyone is looking for. I play every day and I keep getting distracted by a different shiny car to buy and time trial or race around the various tracks. So much so that it's gonna take me a very long time to get around to stuff like circuit experience. Endurance races? Maybe next year .

 

[Dess81]

I just started the game fro, the begining on another account. And I should say that I forgot how this game is fun. Menu missions are cool, tracks are beautiful with light effects, weather, sunsets, sunrises. I think that I lost the feeling of the game while I spent more then 60 hours grinding and buying useless legendary cars which I can't even use on exist events.
I think that the best way is play the company and other missions w/o grinding. And when it will get boring just llyeave the game. And return back after several months when there will be some content added. It's stupid to wait for every update with on 3 events during 20-30 days and grind for cars which don't give fun.

I like and hate the new concept of missions. There were just usual events in GT Sport. AI was slow, ballance was dead, but there were a lot of events and I can spend hours playing Gr2, Gr1, GrX events. And I see that Kaz try to make all events more special, more hard with good AI ballance, he use weather effects, it's rainy often... But it seems like it takes too much time. For example Kaz made a great 24h Spa event, it's beautiful, I like it. But I would be more happy if Kaz add just 10-15 Gr2-Gr1 events on the exist layouts. It would give me hours of fun not just 2-3 hours like 24h Spa did.