GT7 in 4K?
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PS4 can't handle it , plus as @GTPorsche said , i doubt they would waste time on that , they should just focus on refining and updating tracks and cars for now.
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Well, nobody thought that Ps3 had enough power for 1080p, and look how that turned out for PD.The PS4 doesn't have enough GPU power to do 4K unless you want all standard cars and tracks, no weather, and only 4 AI. It takes a high end PC to do 4k gaming to begin with and the PS4 just isn't in that league
The videocards mentioned below are many times more powerful than the PS4.
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There were 1080p 60fps games before on the PS3.
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But it had 1080p 60fps , that's the point . GT6 doesn't have full 1080p fyi.
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Even PS2 had HD graphics. GT4 supported 1080i
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Think it will only make sense for them to do 4K Ultra HD replays and allow photomode use with that resolution.
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you can take photos at 3840 x 2160 (4K) resolution in GT6.
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Neither gt5 or gt6 actually run in 1920x1080. The graphics are rendered at 1280x1080 and 1440x1080 respectively, which isn't true full hd, even if it is pretty close. Neither of the games run at a stable 60 fps either. I don't think high res is anything to brag about if the framerate isn't good as well. If you just lower the framerate enough, anything can do "full hd".
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There is nothing stopping developers writing to a "4k" render buffer. The PS4 even supports such buffers natively in its OS, no tricks necessary; a game can implement its own however it sees fit.
Whether that can be piped to a display at a reasonable rate is another thing, mostly in Sony's hands. It's possible the PS4 could have firmware revisions to allow 4k-sized frames at some rate or other, from games (should that make a difference in the hardware).
If the game is scalable enough, and the screen-space effects dialed back a notch or three, it might run near 30 Hz. Failing that, cheat and interlace it (like they did on PS2): your real full-frame rate is a near 15 Hz instead. That's your 4x reduction in pixel count (per second) straight away. Obviously the game will be a bit unresponsive, comparatively speaking, at 30 Hz, but some might prefer it nonetheless. It would surely be one hell of a demonstration, the likes of which PD has not shied from in the past.
On PC, it's VRAM which is the real killer, 3 GiB seems to be too little for typical games. The PS4 might struggle on that front, too, which practically means shorter draw distances, more pop in, less geometry and texture detail etc. Still might be worth the spectacle, like GT Hi-Fi mode all over again.
On that note, PD should also offer a 120 Hz mode, which may naturally be possible at 720p if the game normally runs at 1080p60.
Whether that can be piped to a display at a reasonable rate is another thing, mostly in Sony's hands. It's possible the PS4 could have firmware revisions to allow 4k-sized frames at some rate or other, from games (should that make a difference in the hardware).
If the game is scalable enough, and the screen-space effects dialed back a notch or three, it might run near 30 Hz. Failing that, cheat and interlace it (like they did on PS2): your real full-frame rate is a near 15 Hz instead. That's your 4x reduction in pixel count (per second) straight away. Obviously the game will be a bit unresponsive, comparatively speaking, at 30 Hz, but some might prefer it nonetheless. It would surely be one hell of a demonstration, the likes of which PD has not shied from in the past.
On PC, it's VRAM which is the real killer, 3 GiB seems to be too little for typical games. The PS4 might struggle on that front, too, which practically means shorter draw distances, more pop in, less geometry and texture detail etc. Still might be worth the spectacle, like GT Hi-Fi mode all over again.
On that note, PD should also offer a 120 Hz mode, which may naturally be possible at 720p if the game normally runs at 1080p60.
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Well, I've seen a GT6 demo running in 4K somewhere on multiple PS3s, but I don't except GT7 to run at 4K on a single PS4.
Let's face it, all developers have really hard times achieving even 1080p @30FPS and since we know can be quite sure GT7 will run @60FPS, 4K is out of the table.
Rather than 4K, I'd much rather see 3D running in 1080p.
Let's face it, all developers have really hard times achieving even 1080p @30FPS and since we know can be quite sure GT7 will run @60FPS, 4K is out of the table.
Rather than 4K, I'd much rather see 3D running in 1080p.
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When you've got proper 4k content and an 80 inch TV, which will not at all be unusual in a few years, it will be a huge difference. 1080p struggles to look detailed or crisp past 50 inch especially if you have any sort of text or graphics (like a game HUD) or edges on screen that are thin/diagonal/circular.
Sure looking at a picture of sand you can't tell the difference from living room distances but in the real world TV's display much more than just a noisy grainy image and increasing the resolution will not only improve reproduction of fine details but also give a more natural and touchable appearance.
Many people see a 4k TV with good content and think it's actually a really amazing 3D TV because the detail is far deeper it appears more touchable and dimensional.
However in a game environment to make it really worthwhile you need to increase the model and texture resolution to match and games haven't really used the full capability of 1080p when it comes to textures anyway except perhaps when you look at a gun in a first-person shooter
I would prefer they spent the extra performance on better lighting, models, textures and better medium-distance detail first before soo massively increasing resolution.
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