GT7 & PSVR2

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Reprojection looks great in some cars w minimal hud glitching. Colors are a bit stronger and more contrasty. Non repro looks a bit washed out. VR replay really improved, really find this more enjoyable than before. Yes weird shadows and other issues but after some more time, I’m mixed but overall positive. Hope for further refinement but I can enjoy it now

So the Pro adds value if you have the cash IMO
 
Hi everyone, I see black friday sales with the PSVR 2. I just wanted to know if there is a consensus on the question "Are we faster or slower when playing the psvr2 ? or it just doesn't matter ? ".
I'll add my 2 cents here as well though I think the consensus is universal. You'll be slower at first but then get faster. Will you be faster than your current 2D experience? Hard to say. After 6 months I am definitely faster than 2D which feels so wrong to me now, but if I had never experienced VR, I would probably be just as fast in 2D as that is what I would be used to.

But speed is not the question here. Speed comes with comfort and experience. I will say that the VR experience is unlike any other. You can't gauge it from YT videos. You have to be IN it to feel it. Driving will just feel more natural. Braking points will come from intuition and sense of speed/distance perception rather than markers, turn in will be more natural and so the driving will feel more normal.

I just did the X2019 at Nürbergring in the new special in both 2D and VR. In 2D it feels frenetic and slightly out of control - A wild ride. In VR, you feel as if you are driving slower and more in control. The track undulations and curves are more natural and less intimidating. I totally crushed my time in VR over the 2D drive.

There will be downsides. You do not get splits in VR in Sport. I think they do that deliberately as honestly, I think VR would give too much of an advantage otherwise. While at times it can be frustrating to not have split in races and TTs, I've actually come to embrace it and worry less and just drive instead.
Time improvement will come later..

Immersion is the name of the VR2 game, and on that regard, there is simply no equal.
This.
There's people like @djolliea who routinely rank in the top 50, sometimes top 10 worldwide while exclusively going in VR. I do the same (the VR thing, not the top 10 thing ... ;))
Yes, VR will not overcome lack of talent, of which I have a lot! Lack of, that is, not talent. :D But at least you will enjoy looking around at the interior details of the car while being slow!


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I would add that if you try to transition straight from a successful 2D account to VR you will probably be frustrated. What I found worked for me was that I set up a brand new VR account and started the game all over again. This way you actually get to enjoy exploring the game anew as your confidence and experience grows without worrying about tanking a A or A+ account. Also, you may find it is really fun driving slow, boring cars again as you can drive around tracks while checking out all the interior details.

After six months my Normsk_VR account is closing in on my Normsk account. I got to DR A a lot faster on Normsk_VR than Normsk (experience helps) but single player is still a bit behind though I am actively working that.

The TLDR. If you are questioning your commitment to GT7 and it is feeling stale, PSVR2 will transform it for you and make the game new all over.
 
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My feelings on VR in a nutshell:

If GT8 (or whichever GT game comes on PS6) isn’t VR ready on day 1, I’m not buying it.

Once you play the entirety of Gran Turismo in VR, there’s no going back.





Can any other pro-users comment on draw distances? Theres been a few comments regarding this, but not a lot
 
Can any other pro-users comment on draw distances? Theres been a few comments regarding this, but not a lot
So far since the update I have only done the celebration races and the RBR TT in VR since the update. On my Pro I have the enhanced VR enabled.

I have not noticed pop in (though I was not looking for it) and the overall clarity seems improved and sharper. If you look for it you can see shimmer and some artifacts here and there but I do not notice them while racing. Overall I think it is a good improvement over the OG5. Ground breaking? No, but improved? Yes.
 
My feelings on VR in a nutshell:

If GT8 (or whichever GT game comes on PS6) isn’t VR ready on day 1, I’m not buying it.

Once you play the entirety of Gran Turismo in VR, there’s no going back.





Can any other pro-users comment on draw distances? Theres been a few comments regarding this, but not a lot
Exactly.

Draw distance and higher resolution at the horizon is really what I am looking for.

If there is good improvement, maybe I will consider the Pro.
Until then.... Am fine as is right now.
 
i made the same request before 1.54, now i make it again:

I'd like PSVR2 and PS5 Pro owners to run a test. Take the 2018 Nissan GT-R GT3 (gr.3) and let me know if you can now clearly read the numbers on the speedometer. Before, they were almost illegible.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Is it true that the vr HUD is unusable now in sports mode races on the PS5 Pro with this update?
No.

When I first looked at it it (in the Yaris TT) I was getting double vision, but then on my second session in different cars, everything was clear and like normal.

It may be true that certain cars have issues with it depending on where it is placed on screen. In the 2019X and the new Porsche I were driving yesterday it was fine, in the Yaris for the TT it was not good..
 
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My brother advised me to use an open car at first to get the hang of it.

So got out the Honda RA272 for a few laps around Tsukuba.

Without VR

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With VR

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Although I am still about 2 seconds off my qualifying time for Spa daily race.

Great fun but is going to take a bit to get used to.

Going to be hard to have a sip of a drink on the long races though
it isn't .... you will know where to put your cup/thermos and drink it by sipping it and not hitting the head set ....you just have to do it long enough to do it blind

It's cheaper to rebuy the game digitally than to buy the disc drive (if you can even find one in the UK).
Welcome to the future, it's horrible.
I bought the ps5 pro yesterday and like a moe-rawn i paid double for a new disc drive from ebay so I would be bale to play my disc and muy 561 cars ..... I was today days old when I realized buying a digital copy was cheaper (I was not aware garages were personal to the account and not the disc/game) .... I will be 52 in a week ... this should explain my incompetence.
 
Regarding the new shaking car effect, I think its a change to the physics as I took a standard MX5 on track and though it still had some shaking it wasnt as bad as the MX5 with mods installed.
This is both while the car is stationary so not related to driving influences. The car is perfectly steady in the VR showroom, so it could be intentional vibration but it is a bad effect. Could be an oversight on the update.

I have taken steps to maximise my enjoyment of the current version by doing races which dont require any HUD information and using new mode graphics. And to avoid certain cars that vibrate too much the view.
Still getting slow mirrors with lots of pop out. And nasty rain spray effects.
 
Can any other pro-users comment on draw distances? Theres been a few comments regarding this, but not a lot
This is mixed bag in my use so far. There are a large variety of assets that are affected, probably partly why the large DL

Here’s what I’ve noticed after a few hours:

Distance clarity seems now to be limited by OLED panel pixel size - when I look to the distance everything that is rendered seems sharper, but more detail than the pixels can render is not going to happen obviously. Stars, track elements, cars etc are sharper right to the limit of this. So nice to look down the track and see more than a smudge

Large textured 3d objects like trees, rails etc, seem about the same, maybe better in resolution at a specifc distance but when they pop or shift seems to depend on viewing angle, as the higher resolution sweet spot seems bigger. Draw distance for vehicle features like vents and spoilers pop in mostly the same as before. If you watch a VR replay down the straight w open cars, the heads pop on to the driver fairly close in. Also pause a vR replay in the open some where and look around - you’ll see how the textures change

Some of the improved clarity came w just using the Pro, so there’s some GPU scaling priority algo in play - its not an all or nothing thing - maybe both rule and load dependant

Not science, just impressions FWIW
 
VR Replay is so much better now. I can focus on a car and actually see the car and decals now. That VRPRS On is the key. During my night time races at Nurb 24H, Bathurst, Road Atlanta, it’s incredible how crisp the cars are. It’s definitely clearer than PS5. In the rain, the spray is pixelated, but the frame rate didn’t drop at all in my eyes. I start last so all the cars ahead bunched up didn’t slow anything down.
The night sky. The constellations look much brighter. Not crystal clear, but improved.

Overall, the rendering seem more natural. Raced at Goodwood and while driving, I looked across to the other side of the circuit and could see a helicopter over some planes. Background didn’t look blurry.
Biggest difference, for those that race at Goodwood. The freakin’ lap counter! Totally legible! It was a blurry mess with the PS5. With PS5P, it’s clear. Being able to focus on something and not see the ghosting is so good.

Put it this way, the game and console aren’t going anywhere. If you can wait then that’s fine. If you spend your money and upgrade that’s fine too. I guess having the PS5P now, you can experience the improvements and maybe already have the console for when GTA6 comes out. If someone doesn’t have PSVR2 or PS5, I’d recommend PSVR2+PS5P. They’d have the best version annd only move forward. Other than that, for those that have PSVR2 and a PS5, maybe the PS5P gets a price drop in a few months and get it then. 1200 Aussie bucks for essentially the VRPRS On? I’m good with my choice.
 
I dont know if its been mentioned before but I just realised that the sound of the windscreen wipers swooshing is directional, If i turn my head left I hear wipers in my right ear and vice versa, pretty nice. A reward for sitting in your car in the rain doing nothing.
 
I’m just downloading GT7 on ps5pro; quick question.. are people choosing prioritise frame rates or prioritise graphics/ray tracing?
 
I’m just downloading GT7 on ps5pro; quick question.. are people choosing prioritise frame rates or prioritise graphics/ray tracing?
I'm using prioritise graphics/ray tracing. I have not noticed a downside yet but prior to this I only raced at 60-Hz anyway in non VR (My TV does not support 120Hz or VRR)
 
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I’m just downloading GT7 on ps5pro; quick question.. are people choosing prioritise frame rates or prioritise graphics/ray tracing?
W/O reprojection on - in prioritise framerate I thought the image did not look quite as nice, a bit contrastier, tonal changes not as smooth. In graphics priority I did not yet notice any/much frame rate drop that was enough to care about but early days
 
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