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[True-blue-8]

That I understand, but I don't think this is the way to go. People claim that Race 2 is interesting because you see the multiple different strategies come together towards the back end of the race. You don't know where you really stand until the back end of the race.

Like I say, the penalty for starting on the Mediums is less time to put a hot lap in on the option tyre. If you then qualify well and start on the medium, then those drivers on the softs have to make their tyre advantage count.

Personally, if it's not something which is regulated in the FGT series, which is modeled on a series (F1) where your Q tyre is 9/10 your race tyre, I don't see a benefit to regulating it here.

How? I pitted early and had most of the race to put the laps in.

If you set your Q time on soft then change before the race you get less time to do your flying lap

@True-blue-8 Is there any carry over penalties for rome in D2? Only D1 is listed in the OP.

I realised that earlier mate, will add D2 on in a bit 👍

 

[NinjaEvo]

If you set your Q time on soft then change before the race you get less time to do your flying lap

Other way around, you have to have the Mediums selected before sessions start, then box to switch to softs during qualifying. When the race session starts the setup reverts back to Mediums. It's for it you have weather changes on. If a Q session starts dry the race will too. If it rains during Q and you put on a wet compound it wont then penalise you by starting on those same wet tyres for a dry race.

I've switched compounds in this way for FGT loads of times, I think I only haven't once and that was at RBR. Start the session on the Prime, pit on the outlap for Option. Then when the race starts you start on Prime but you spend the Q session on the option tyre, you just have to run 2 outlaps.

If you want the Q tyre being race start tyre rule enforced it would make sense to have Superpole for Race 2 in the main event as opposed to the Sprint Race/Race 3.

 

[True-blue-8]

Other way around, you have to have the Mediums selected before sessions start, then box to switch to softs during qualifying. When the race session starts the setup reverts back to Mediums. It's for it you have weather changes on. If a Q session starts dry the race will too. If it rains during Q and you put on a wet compound it wont then penalise you by starting on those same wet tyres for a dry race.

I've switched compounds in this way for FGT loads of times, I think I only haven't once and that was at RBR. Start the session on the Prime, pit on the outlap for Option. Then when the race starts you start on Prime but you spend the Q session on the option tyre, you just have to run 2 outlaps.

If you want the Q tyre being race start tyre rule enforced it would make sense to have Superpole for Race 2 in the main event as opposed to the Sprint Race/Race 3.

During the Q session it makes you start with the original tyre

however in practice mode If you change then you start on the tyre last selected



I see no problem whether the way we're doing it now....

 

[Doomstorm16]

I realised that earlier mate, will add D2 on in a bit 👍

Thanks mate.

 

[NinjaEvo]

During the Q session it makes you start with the original tyre

however in practice mode If you change then you start on the tyre last selected



I see no problem whether the way we're doing it now....

I won't lie, this is why I don't like using Practice mode for Qualifying. I understand it was done for if people show up late, but I don't think it's beneficial. Hell, especially if we're at the point where we're qualifying for Race 2. If you're still not in the lobby after having Half an Hour to get there since the start of Race 1 qualifying then I have no sympathy. Start times are in the OP, simple.

There's nothing 'Wrong' with the way it's being done at the moment, but what I'm saying is if you want a qualification session where the Race tyre is the same as the Qualifying tyre then running Superpole for Race 2 in the main event is the way to go. After all you get two laps, 1 outlap, 1 flying. If you choose to pit and run two outlaps then you never get the chance to set a valid time and the penalty is starting at the rear of the field. 👍

 

[lars toft]

i really should keep my mouth shut , but dahm , i cant today , ninja shouldnt you concentrate on getting around the track a bit quicker than yesterday hehe 💡

 

[NinjaEvo]

i really should keep my mouth shut , but dahm , i cant today , ninja shouldnt you concentrate on getting around the track a bit quicker than yesterday hehe 💡

Curse you and your OP Supra... Yeah, I went there...

 

[lars toft]

i dont mind , as long u just keep behind me lol i just got another friend off mine too register in the gt300 , now we are both in big trouble lol

 

[NinjaEvo]

i dont mind , as long u just keep behind me lol i just got another friend off mine too register in the gt300 , now we are both in big trouble lol

DUDE! Stop Inviting people!

If you carry on we'll get to the point where we are DNQs...

 

[lars toft]

but he got such a nice girly voice lol or something

 

[NinjaEvo]

but he got such a nice girly voice lol or something

Oh... Ummm... Well, if it's funny I suppose I can let that one slide...

 

[Pamellaaa]

@True-blue-8, my personal opinion is the same as @NinjaEvo and would prefer proper qualifying over the practice system (I hate not seeing the list of everyone's time).

Also just to clarify we are having a start on the tyre you set your Q time on?

 

[lars toft]

cu m8

 

[NinjaEvo]

cu m8

Don't just leave, sign up man... It's a good series...
Cya bro

 

[True-blue-8]

I won't lie, this is why I don't like using Practice mode for Qualifying. I understand it was done for if people show up late, but I don't think it's beneficial. Hell, especially if we're at the point where we're qualifying for Race 2. If you're still not in the lobby after having Half an Hour to get there since the start of Race 1 qualifying then I have no sympathy. Start times are in the OP, simple.

There's nothing 'Wrong' with the way it's being done at the moment, but what I'm saying is if you want a qualification session where the Race tyre is the same as the Qualifying tyre then running Superpole for Race 2 in the main event is the way to go. After all you get two laps, 1 outlap, 1 flying. If you choose to pit and run two outlaps then you never get the chance to set a valid time and the penalty is starting at the rear of the field. 👍

This ^

At the start I thought yeah it's a good idea but i'm glad you spoke out. I'm getting fed up of it as well really. If people wont be on time then their fault, and it's better for the original


I think starting on the same tyre, which you'll now have to, is a good idea

 

[NinjaEvo]

This ^

At the start I thought yeah it's a good idea but i'm glad you spoke out. I'm getting fed up of it as well really. If people wont be on time then their fault, and it's better for the original


I think starting on the same tyre, which you'll now have to, is a good idea

Cool. So the only concern I have now (I know, I'm the barer of bad news lol) is how to regulate this. The qualifying sessions, same as the practice sessions, are not recorded.

The best suggestion I can think of off the top of my head is to run the Qualifying Session with Sports:Mediums being the tyre restriction. At the end of Q, everyone backs out, the tyre restriction is changed to Sports:Softs, and a manual grid is formed with all drivers on the SM tyres.

I know that is a mess about but it's the best I can think of at the moment.

Also, since we're on the subject of times, can I request that no One-Week breaks are permitted? I hate to be that guy, but back in S1 when someone couldn't make an event they took it as a drop. Yuc is the perfect example given he was 2nd in the Championship, closest contender to Emo in his chamnpionship winning season, buit when he couldn't make it for Rome he took it as a drop. I think the only time a break should and indeed could be implemented is if an update is released on race day.


EDIT: Or making starting on the Options the mandatory starting tyre.

 

[True-blue-8]

Cool. So the only concern I have now (I know, I'm the barer of bad news lol) is how to regulate this. The qualifying sessions, same as the practice sessions, are not recorded.

The best suggestion I can think of off the top of my head is to run the Qualifying Session with Sports:Mediums being the tyre restriction. At the end of Q, everyone backs out, the tyre restriction is changed to Sports:Softs, and a manual grid is formed with all drivers on the SM tyres.

I know that is a mess about but it's the best I can think of at the moment.

Also, since we're on the subject of times, can I request that no One-Week breaks are permitted? I hate to be that guy, but back in S1 when someone couldn't make an event they took it as a drop. Yuc is the perfect example given he was 2nd in the Championship, closest contender to Emo in his chamnpionship winning season, buit when he couldn't make it for Rome he took it as a drop. I think the only time a break should and indeed could be implemented is if an update is released on race day.

no need to regulate it mate. If you try to change to the harder compound at the last moment for the race it doesnt work in Q mode

If someone misses a week then yep, we won't wait unless it's an unforeseen or important round

 

[CptMadBean]

Ok so what's the plan tonight, because I'm well lost now lol.

Lets have the Q, pls confirm

 

[Pamellaaa]

Cool. So the only concern I have now (I know, I'm the barer of bad news lol) is how to regulate this. The qualifying sessions, same as the practice sessions, are not recorded.

The best suggestion I can think of off the top of my head is to run the Qualifying Session with Sports:Mediums being the tyre restriction. At the end of Q, everyone backs out, the tyre restriction is changed to Sports:Softs, and a manual grid is formed with all drivers on the SM tyres.

I know that is a mess about but it's the best I can think of at the moment.

Also, since we're on the subject of times, can I request that no One-Week breaks are permitted? I hate to be that guy, but back in S1 when someone couldn't make an event they took it as a drop. Yuc is the perfect example given he was 2nd in the Championship, closest contender to Emo in his chamnpionship winning season, buit when he couldn't make it for Rome he took it as a drop. I think the only time a break should and indeed could be implemented is if an update is released on race day.


EDIT: Or making starting on the Options the mandatory starting tyre.

I agree ref the one week breaks, with the Q rules I would say if someone photos the Q times it will be easy enough to see what tyre everyone was on from their time and then by checking the replay we can be sure it will work. Or ban pit stops in Q?

 

[True-blue-8]

Ok so what's the plan tonight, because I'm well lost now lol.

Lets have the Q, pls confirm

Same as usual. Room open, a 12 minute Q session then 1 hour race 👍

 

[True-blue-8]

I agree ref the one week breaks, with the Q rules I would say if someone photos the Q times it will be easy enough to see what tyre everyone was on from their time and then by checking the replay we can be sure it will work. Or ban pit stops in Q?

when you enter the pits, it's easy to see who went in on the hards. If it then shows you started on hards on the replay when you qualified on softs then it can be easily spotted

 

[NinjaEvo]

I agree ref the one week breaks, with the Q rules I would say if someone photos the Q times it will be easy enough to see what tyre everyone was on from their time and then by checking the replay we can be sure it will work. Or ban pit stops in Q?

when you enter the pits, it's easy to see who went in on the hards. If it then shows you started on hards on the replay when you qualified on softs then it can be easily spotted

OK, I've thought about it and here is one.

I could start on Mediums, box for Softs then when the race starts the car will go back to the Medium compound. Using the Q times to decide who was on what is a shot in the dark. Someone might just hit a really good Medium compound lap.

So, how about once you leave the pit you cannot return? If you do box, for example you've done your laps and you don't think you can go faster, you can stop and pit-pause.

As long as you don't exit the pits twice then you're good to go.

 

[Pamellaaa]

OK, I've thought about it and here is one.

I could start on Mediums, box for Softs then when the race starts the car will go back to the Medium compound. Using the Q times to decide who was on what is a shot in the dark. Someone might just hit a really good Medium compound lap.

So, how about once you leave the pit you cannot return? If you do box, for example you've done your laps and you don't think you can go faster, you can stop and pit-pause.

As long as you don't exit the pits twice then you're good to go.

Makes sense to me, or just ban stops altogether, anyone in the pitlane after Q has started gets a set penalty.

 

[NinjaEvo]

Makes sense to me, or just ban stops altogether, anyone in the pitlane after Q has started gets a set penalty.

True, if you're done you could just pull off of the track, apply the handbrake and pause. 👍

 

[True-blue-8]

OK, I've thought about it and here is one.

I could start on Mediums, box for Softs then when the race starts the car will go back to the Medium compound. Using the Q times to decide who was on what is a shot in the dark. Someone might just hit a really good Medium compound lap.

So, how about once you leave the pit you cannot return? If you do box, for example you've done your laps and you don't think you can go faster, you can stop and pit-pause.

As long as you don't exit the pits twice then you're good to go.

Yep that sounds good to me.
It's the people who pit you need to be suspicious of anyway.

 

[Pamellaaa]

Probably worth making a post and tagging everyone True, not all of them read the thread as much as we do!

 

[True-blue-8]

Probably worth making a post and tagging everyone True, not all of them read the thread as much as we do!

It will only need to come into effect for the endurance so will tag those people 👍

 

[CptMadBean]

Me and Ian will be in team colours for tonights race chameleon blue

 

[True-blue-8]

@NinjaEvo @TDZdave @john sweet @sb360 @STOCKY8A1 @von Holstein @Doomstorm16 @wambam23 @Mikey24 @xflow1390 @CptMadBean @Ian_83

Round 2 Rome tonight

Upon qualifying, the tyre you set your qualifying time on is the tyre you must use to start the race.
During the qualifying session, if you enter the pits, you must park up and wait there. If you exit the pits then you will be handed a penalty after the race.

Good luck all

 

[Pamellaaa]

@NinjaEvo @TDZdave @john sweet @sb360 @STOCKY8A1 @von Holstein @Doomstorm16 @wambam23 @Mikey24 @xflow1390 @CptMadBean @Ian_83

Round 2 Rome tonight

Upon qualifying, the tyre you set your qualifying time on is the tyre you must use to start the race.
During the qualifying session, if you enter the pits, you must park up and wait there. If you exit the pits then you will be handed a penalty after the race.

Good luck all

Today's room is up!