GTP Cool Wall: 1990-1993 Mitsubishi GTO / 3000GT

[Tornado]

One thing I should mention is that only the Stealth had the "Why on Earth didn't I just buy an Eclipse?" SOHC engine at the time. The 3000GT didn't get it until the car was on the way out, when Mitsubishi grew truly desperate to try and get someone (anyone!) to be able to afford them.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Other than the technology, I never found any of the V6 twin turbos of 90s Japan extremely cool, not like the cars that were I6 twin or single turbo at least. I can't really decide so meh.

 

[The87Dodge]

Good looking sports car with tons of power and technology. Cool.

 

[Cowboy]

I have a soft spot for this car. In my opinion, this is one of the better looking Japanese cars of the '90s, and it has the power to go with it.

Solid cool.

 

[7up747]

Cool because of VR-4 version. Also of this...

 

[LivingWithGames]

A beast of a car in Gran Turismo 1. An absolute looked in real life.

Not sub-zero, but it's a high cool.

EDIT: Though, I just looke don the votes and, while most of us knew or discovered this car in GT1, I just find it ironic and funny that GT guy over here voted uncool.

 

[huskeR32]

Bloated. Underwhelming performance. Uncool.

 

[axletramp]

One day they might be cool. Just not yet. Meh.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Amusing video might tickle the fancy of people who fondly remember the car from GT1

I mean... this is what GT is

 

[VXR]

Not cool, but a guilty pleasure.

These early year models looked much better than the subsequent facelift ones.

Meh.

 

[mustafur]

Really not understanding the love this is getting. Back in its day, there were probably a dozen other similar coupes and rivals that were better. It's no looker. It wasn't rated highly in period group tests and it, unsurprisingly, never really sold well in many markets. Rose-tinted Gran Turismo specticals I guess.

the worse it sells in the past generally the cooler it seems in the future.

The car was ahead of it's time.

 

[TheCracker]

The car was ahead of it's time.

It was. These days nearly all cars weigh as much as a small moon. 👍

 

[mustafur]

It was. These days nearly all cars weigh as much as a small moon. 👍

When you consider it's a GT car and not a Sports car it makes sense, all the equipment it had was early stage technology that would of weighed a tone.

Sports car wise what the RX7 was is basically the argument I would make.

 

[TheCracker]

When you consider it's a GT car and not a Sports car it makes sense, all the equipment it had was early stage technology that would of weighed a tone.

The R32 GT-R was also an AWD, all-wheel steer, six-cylinder twin-turbo, based on a large saloon platform, but it weighed 320kg less!

 

[mustafur]

The R32 GT-R was also an AWD, all-wheel steer, six-cylinder twin-turbo, based on a large saloon platform, but it weighed 320kg less!

It didn't have electronic suspension, fat cushy seats and a Audio and A/C system that could compare.

Also the Mitsubishi's engine was larger as was the car, the GT-R was designed for Group A racing as well keep in mind.

The Two cars are two different segments.

 

[Grandea GTR]

The Two cars are two different segments.

Not so sure about that. In the 90s it was basically GT-R vs. NSX vs. 3000GT vs.... (who else?)

And the problem about the GTO was that it had too much technology in it. Being ahead of the time is good, but if it involves comfort tech and whatnot for the technology, performance wise it wasn't that much of a good thing, considering it was limited to 276 HP.

 

[TheCracker]

Those must have been some epicly fat cushy seats to weigh 300kg more than regular seats.

Not so sure about that. In the 90s it was basically GT-R vs. NSX vs. 3000GT vs.... (who else?)

Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7. Nissan also had the 300ZX 👍

 

[Grandea GTR]

Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7. Nissan also had the 300ZX 👍

Doesn't include the Fairlady 300ZX, but here's what I found.

 

[Tornado]

Also the Mitsubishi's engine was larger

A particularly irrelevant point, since the RB26 is a much heavier engine than the 6G72.

 

[mustafur]

Not so sure about that. In the 90s it was basically GT-R vs. NSX vs. 3000GT vs.... (who else?)

And the problem about the GTO was that it had too much technology in it. Being ahead of the time is good, but if it involves comfort tech and whatnot for the technology, performance wise it wasn't that much of a good thing, considering it was limited to 276 HP.

The NSX was considerably more expensive then any of the rest, those 3 cars didn't directly compete.

 

[Grandea GTR]

The NSX was considerably more expensive then any of the rest, those 3 cars didn't directly compete.

Price wasn't a factor within those competitions.

 

[mustafur]

Those must have been some epicly fat cushy seats to weigh 300kg more than regular seats.


Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7. Nissan also had the 300ZX 👍

To make up for all the technology from memory they were not able to use much alluminum which the GT-R had plenty of to keep the price similar, the GT-R still cost more though.

interior wise it's obvious why the 3000GT weighed more it had more features.

Price wasn't a factor within those competitions.

Im not talking about that, those races they put any car in there.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Im not talking about that, those races they put any car in there.

Not sure what you're getting at. If you're talking about the race video, it was a race featuring the top Japanese sports cars.

 

[mustafur]

Not sure what you're getting at. If you're talking about the race video, it was a race featuring the top Japanese sports cars.

Yeah but just because it was fastish doesn't mean it's supposed to be a direct competitor, there is plenty of cars outside of Japan that it directly compares to.

An Evo and NSX are about as different as you will get, the fact they are Japanese is about the only similarity, every car in that race was sold basically world wide though meaning it's competition isn't only what is in this race because it's a top Japanese sports car.

 

[Tornado]

So it went from "the 3000GT was heavier because it was more technologically advanced than anything else", which it wasn't; to "the 3000GT was heavier because it was larger than its closest competitors and had a heavier drivetrain", which it wasn't appreciably and didn't; to "the 3000GT was heavier because the GT-R extensively used aluminum" which beyond the front fenders and hood it didn't; to (bizarrely), "the 3000GT was heavier because the interior was nicer than the GT-R's," which I suppose it was, but they didn't put 600 pounds of more stereo or better air conditioning into it and neither of them were horning in on an 500 SL or 840Ci.



When can we skip the middleman and get to how "the 3000GT was heavier because Mitsubishi didn't do a very good job designing it to hide that they built it off of a full size FWD pseudo-luxury sedan", something borne out by how it was an also-ran before it even came out?

 

[Liquid]

I don't care how antiquated or heavy it is or ever was. It's utterly stunning.

 

[Dennisch]

Man, these threads always get ruined by non fact vs actual fact posts.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Big 90s coupe. Looks pretty nice, but not amazing. Pop up headlights.

 

[Liquid]

Amusing video might tickle the fancy of people who fondly remember the car from GT1

I mean... this is what GT is

And to the gentleman who owns that GTO...

 

[Tornado]

And to the gentleman who owns that GTO...

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