GTP Cool Wall: 2004-2006 HSV Senator (Z Series)

[Tornado]

It looks like a clapped up taxi, and it probably is!

What is uncool about a Pushrod V8?

One would hope in the literal years he's gone on about it and similar nonsense he would have accidentally found a reason by now, but alas.

 

[Joey D]

Uncool. It's just a sedan.

 

[GTRacer22]

Cool. It's a sleeper, basically. Looks like any other ordinary sedan out there, but with an LS in it.

 

[axletramp]

I like the idea of a big V8 in a sleeper body but would you want to look at that every day? The Lotus Carlton did this better over 10 years before... and much cooler.

Uncool.

 

[CSMDuty11]

I can't get my hands on it because it is Australian and i am in Mainland Europe.



Cool
One day, Commodore, one day...

 

[Sage Ages]

Senator

Uncool.

 

[TexRex]

Big, fat MEH!

 

[TheCracker]

Council estate badge on a aspirational middle-management sized car. Uncool.




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[Cano]

Uncool by the name alone, LS or not. Hell it could have a 632 ci HEMI with individual throttle bodies and zoomies and still be uncool because it's called a Senator. Really, wtf with the name.

 

[Crash]

Dang, this car is cheesy, chintzy and ugly.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

What is uncool about a Pushrod V8?

That's just his echo any time he sees anything related to GM or the LS/LT series. It's just safe to look at it, nod your head and move on.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

It's mostly related to the sad fact that the damn things are crammed into any car, starting from sand rails into classic 911's, Imprezas, Miatas, Lancer Evolutions, Skylines, BMW's, M-B's, Jaguars etc etc, which is just as questionable as the stuff stance crowd does, by people who can't be bothered to modify the original motor.

 

[Liquid]

There's an odd kind of dissonance with cars like this and some others. If this was a 'normal' saloon car with an average four-pot engine, then you swapped in a GM LS engine on your own, it becomes "Hey, that's an interesting project car!". But if this comes with a big, thirsty engine from the factory as standard, then it's often a floppy barge from a company with more money than sense.

It's still uncool either way.

 

[YSSMAN]

I'd say cool.

Then again, I'm a sucker for a big sedan with a V8. Shame it didn't have the 6MT like the Commodore, but, I suppose that misses the point with it being a Senator.

 

[CSMDuty11]

...But it is a big sedan with a V6.


...According to the Cool Wall.

 

[Wiegert]

...But it is a big sedan with a V6.

But it's an OP with a typo... that still hasn't been fixed.

 

[GTRacer22]

...But it is a big sedan with a V6.

But it's not.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

which is just as questionable as the stuff stance crowd does, by people who can't be bothered to modify the original motor.

Originality I will give you, but unlike the stance crowd putting a small block all-aluminium V8 in those lightweight sports cars is an extremely significant performance increase and is actually fully functional.

The kits these days are designed so that weight distribution is a non-issue and you're gaining fairly little weight to begin with along with your 3-400hp out of the box.

 

[mustafur]

I'd say cool.

Then again, I'm a sucker for a big sedan with a V8. Shame it didn't have the 6MT like the Commodore, but, I suppose that misses the point with it being a Senator.

The Clubsport had the 6MT, the Senator like the Grange LWB are more of a cruiser.

 

[Mr_X]

Meh just another commodore

 

[niky]

Nice Accord... errh... Falcon? Anonymous doesn't even begin...

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Also, I can't think of a more unappetizing name than Senator... maybe... Congressman?

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Uncool.

 

[Liquid]

Also, I can't think of a more unappetizing name than Senator... maybe... Congressman?

Holden MeSoftly

 

[ScottPuss20]

I used to think that Senator sounded like Sonata This generation of Commodore isn't the best looking, but it's still a Commodore. With a big engine and a HSV badge. Cool.

 

[axletramp]

Holden MeSoftly

Holden Foronemoreday.

 

[Thomas__633]

Holden On

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

I'd run one here. Would turn a few heads but would still look rather understated. Cool.

 

[Wiegert]

Holden Foronemoreday.

Holden Outforahero

With GM's 'Footloose' audio system as standard.

 

[Paulie]

Affordable luxury with a stonking LS V8 and nice styling, I vote cool!

 

[synchromesh]

It's got a boy racer exterior, but a business interior. That's not how you do it. That's not how you do it at all.

This and no manual option; but at the same time, pushrod V8. Meh again.

 

[Tornado]

Eh. The 4L60 always could have used another gear between 3rd and 4th, but I've never been a fan of the 6 speed that GM hooked up to small blocks at the time so I don't think beyond the principle of having it as an option offering a stick in a car like this would have actually improved it.