GTP Cool Wall: 2006-2010 Honda Civic (European variant)

[JMoney]

That's a pretty bold statement. Is your hate for Civics so strong you'd refuse to drive a perfectly reasonable hatchback and instead choose to drive one of the worst cars ever made just to say you aren't driving a Civic?

Nah I'd be happy in a Golf or a Focus. I just really don't want to be part of the Civic crowd.

Civics aren't sporty, because there not meant to be. Even the Type Rs aren't meant to be massively sporty, they're just meant to be a fun car that can get you from point A to B with a massive grin on your face and still be practical, which they do well. I really think you don't understand the meaning of a fun car, you're just like @White & Nerdy.

I know what a fun car is. Convertibles are fun cars, but not necessarily sporty. A Civic is a small coupe which owners often ruin or molest, trying to turn them into sports cars. Because of this, even a Civic in stock form is uncool.

 

[Turtle]

Seriously uncool:

1. It's a Civic, owned exclusively by ricers
2. It's hideous, probably the worst looking Civic ever
3. V Tec just kicked in yo.

1. If by "ricers", you mean "people who want a good, small hatchback", then sure, I suppose that's fine.
2. In your opinion, many of us think it's one of the better looking Civics.
3. That has never been funny.

Nah I'd be happy in a Golf or a Focus. I just really don't want to be part of the Civic crowd.

I think you'd find that it's pretty uncommon for newer Civics like this to be in the "Civic crowd". There are a massive amount of ricey Civics in my area, and they're almost exclusively models from around 2000. Pretty much every tastelessly modified car in my area is around that old. V6 Mustangs are very common targets too.

 

[JAHHAJ]

Nah I'd be happy in a Golf or a Focus. I just really don't want to be part of the Civic crowd.
I know what a fun car is. Convertibles are fun cars, but not necessarily sporty. A Civic is a small coupe which owners often ruin or molest, trying to turn them into sports cars. Because of this, even a Civic in stock form is uncool.

I don't know what Civic owners are like where you are, but all I know is that where I am most Civics I see aren't ruined and made into rice or anything. In the UK at least ricing has died down, and so has car customisation in general from what I see (not completely dead) so, most Civics I see are used to get from point A to point B. I see a lot of Type Rs as well, mostly EP3s which around 95% of them haven't been stupidly modified apart from a big fart can. Personally, I wouldn't care about the people who drive Civics even if I owned one, I probably wouldn't speak to many Civic owners or go to any Civic events, so I personally don't see how the crowd of people would affect the coolness apart from the fact everyone would stereotype you as a person (which I also wouldn't care about).

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Seriously uncool:

1. It's a Civic, owned exclusively by ricers
2. It's hideous, probably the worst looking Civic ever
3. V Tec just kicked in yo.

This exactly what I was saying in the AZ thread. Instead of just saying "SU ugly", you have a blight of ignorance. The only redeeming point you make is number 2. Point one is hyperbole, stereotyping of a car because a marginal small group, since sixth gen EK-EJs and Seventh Gens seem to be the choice of tuners more so than Eight gens mainly due to price and sheer amount of parts on the aftermarket.

Number three just makes you sound like a kid that repeats a meme anytime you see a Honda that was only funny the first couple months the meme came out... All of it makes you sound as usual the type that doesn't know anything outside of a mustang, the key goes in the ignition just like every other car.

 

[Tyger]

Uncool from me, OK mechanically though not as nifty as earlier incarnations (in Type R trim anyway) but I dislike the styling immensely, particularly the light bars and glass over everything, and it doesn't have a single elegant line. It looks like a bumper car with a roof.

 

[Famine]

A Civic is a small coupe

The nominated car is such a small coupe that it has become a hatchback.

Civic owners in the UK tend to be a bit on the... silver side, rather than rude boy ricers.

 

[Slash]

Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars.

 

[Rhykus Finlay]

The newer ones I like, but not the ones from those years. Nice handling cars I guess, but not really 'cool'. More 'affordable' or 'NFS addict' maybe.

 

[Famine]

Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars.

Well, that's nice and balanced. You know the Morris Marina is the reason I hate all African and South American cars. And Peugoet.

 

[Rhykus Finlay]

Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars.

But Ferraris, Lambos, M Series, GTR's, Paganis, GT-86s, Evos and Imprezas, and Jags come from not America!

 

[Turtle]

But Ferraris, Lambos, M Series, GTR's, Paganis, GT-86s, Evos and Imprezas, and Jags come from not America!

But so does the Civic, therefore all those cars are awful.

 

[Dennisch]

I got nothing on this car. Nothing. Can't vote.

 

[Slash]

But Ferraris, Lambos, M Series, GTR's, Paganis, GT-86s, Evos and Imprezas, and Jags come from not America!

There are very few of those I give a hoot about.

 

[Johnny1996]

These two guys, @Slash and I, were raised on American muscle and the feeling that its the best way to go. You better believe our opinions are heavily influenced by that fact.

As for how I vote on the Civic, I vote Uncool. It could be a Meh or a Cool, but the amount of riced out Civics I see on a weekly basis, it feels like if I vote higher than I did, it'd give the ricers an even more ricer attitude. That of which I already can't stand.

EDIT: There is more that I didn't say, I just chose to keep it out.

 

[Slash]

Oh, I think they get it. I've made that pretty clear.

 

[Johnny1996]

Oh, I think they get it. I've made that pretty clear.

Haha yeah. I'm kinda beating a dead horse, but oh well.

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

As for how I vote on the Civic, I vote Uncool. It could be a Meh or a Cool, but the amount of riced out Civics I see on a weekly basis, it feels like if I vote higher than I did, it'd give the ricers an even more ricer attitude. That of which I already can't stand.

For what its worth, this model of Civic hasn't yet been hit by the 'slammed'/STANCENATION/ricer/whatever crowd yet, or at least nowhere near the numbers of Civics of old. Even Type R models haven't been affected by the boy racer owners like the generation before this one (although, that will eventually change when they drop in price).

 

[Famine]

These two guys, @Slash and I, were raised on American muscle and the feeling that its the best way to go. You better believe our opinions are heavily influenced by that fact.

Which is fine, but "Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars." is utterly nonsensical.

This Civic, which the USA never got and which was designed and built for European markets by Honda Europe in Swindon, UK, is somehow the reason for hating all but 6 cars from the entire planet? The Civic you've never seen makes you hate all but 6 Japanese, British, French, Swedish, German, Italian, Indian, Australian, Chinese, Korean, Swiss, Spanish, Czech, Russian, Mexican, Canadian, Austrian, Dutch, Belgian, Polish, South African, Brazilian, Malaysian and Romanian cars?

I mean, I find this particular Civic quite dull, but then I encounter it pretty much every day. It doesn't make me hate chuffin' Seats.

 

[Johnny1996]

Which is fine, but "Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars." is utterly nonsensical.

I never said this and I never said I agreed with it.

EDIT: I may have misread this part. Sorry.

This Civic, which the USA never got and which was designed and built for European markets by Honda Europe in Swindon, UK, is somehow the reason for hating all but 6 cars from the entire planet? The Civic you've never seen makes you hate all but 6 Japanese, British, French, Swedish, German, Italian, Indian, Australian, Chinese, Korean, Swiss, Spanish, Czech, Russian, Mexican, Canadian, Austrian, Dutch, Belgian, Polish, South African, Brazilian, Malaysian and Romanian cars?

Continuing with what I said above, you can see that I'm an auto enthusiast and like pretty much everything ever made by going through my posts, particularly those in the Hot Wheels Collectors thread and Scale Model thread. Anything from a Renault hot hatch up to a Pagani Huayra. Its just that American muscle cars are my absolute favorite. I look off to my right as I'm sitting in my room, and I see a diecast Dodge Challenger right next to a diecast Lamborghini Murcielago, for example.

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

I never said this and I never said I agreed with it.

I think he quoted you to point out the differences between the two of you. As you've explained, you can easily appreciate other models whilst muscle cars are your preferred type - and that's perfectly fine. I myself prefer wacky little Japanese cars, but that isn't to say I don't have favourite cars from elsewhere.

Slash simply saying he dislikes all but a literal handful of cars that aren't American is what caught Famine off a bit.

 

[Slash]

I don't hate them, I mean, I love them because they are cars, but on a scale they would be like DEAD last at the very bottom. Think of them like a rank almost.

 

[Johnny1996]

I think he quoted you to point out the differences between the two of you.

I do believe I may have misread his post.

As you've explained, you can easily appreciate other models whilst muscle cars are your preferred type - and that's perfectly fine. I myself prefer wacky little Japanese cars, but that isn't to say I don't have favourite cars from elsewhere.

Slash simply saying he dislikes all but a literal handful of cars that aren't American is what caught Famine off a bit.

Taste is subjective after all.

 

[Doodle]

Solid cool from me.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Meh for me, one of the cars that I'm not a fan of.

 

[Famine]

I never said this

Your colleague, with whom you are aligning, did:

Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars.

That's why I placed it in quote marks, not in a quote box.

As I said, I perfectly understand liking what you've grown up with, but "despising" all non-American cars except for "5-6 cars" due to Civics is bizarre - what does a Honda Civic have to do with a Volvo 340, or a FIAT Croma, or a Bentley Turbo R, or an Alpine A110? Why would anyone hate those cars because of Honda Civics?

And that notwithstanding, this Civic has never been sold on US shores. You guys have never seen it. Ever. Hating all of the world's car output because of Honda Civics is weird but doing so because of a Honda Civic that has never, ever crossed into your consciousness at any point is outright mental illness level brain wrongery.

 

[McLaren]

Civics are the reason I despise anything not American except for maybe like 5-6 cars.

And here I actually believed you when you said you'd been trying to be more open to the world outside the US since you came to GTP. Instead, you insist on continue making these utterly simple-minded statements. Shame.

 

[Slash]

And here I actually believed you when you said you'd been trying to be more open to the world outside the US since you came to GTP. Instead, you insist on continue making these utterly simple-minded statements. Shame.

Did you miss this?

I don't hate them, I mean, I love them because they are cars, but on a scale they would be like DEAD last at the very bottom. Think of them like a rank almost.

I am trying to be more open minded about other cars. The Civic is just one I can't do.


That's for most average import cars. Ferrari's, Astons and all those I have gotten a lot more respect more since I started looking into them more and more.

For example, there was an R8 V10 that showed up at my track last week. I freaked out and HAD to see it.

 

[McLaren]

Did you miss this?

Was it posted only as explanation because you got called out for it? That's the point.

"I hate N-words".
"WHAT?!"
"No, I mean hate Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton".

That's for most average import cars. Ferrari's, Astons and all those I have gotten a lot more respect more since I started looking into them more and more.

For example, there was an R8 V10 that showed up at my track last week. I freaked out and HAD to see it.

Try starting off with this instead.

 

[Slash]

I probably should have. That's was a mistake on my part.

 

[Mikeybc]

I think they're cooler than the North American Civic, It has more engine options (torquey turbo diesel) and the i-shift is something I've never heard of before. So it's a meh for the European Civic.