I guess you didn't read anything I said.
I wasn't talking about the acceleration, I was talking about the power.
What you're saying is that a 600 that is launched from 8 grand is automatically bad because of its launch rpm.
Which, to some degree, it is. There are situations in which you may not be able or inclined to rev up before you go. Jumping out into heavy, fast-moving traffic, for example (that's an important ability where I live, since any time you're turning left out of a parking lot or side street, you'll usually find that opposing clumps of traffic are timed perfectly to avoid leaving any large or obvious opportunites). More low-RPM torque also means less shifting around town or in areas with steeply undulating terrain, or when you get stuck behind a slow driver.
So you are that dumb, taking the word of a company that used supercars against a Polo as law.
See below.
You listen to the V6 out of a Sunbird and people will set themselves on fire before jumping into a river of gasoline filled with sharks.
You listen to a proper V6 and it'll sound much better.
Using a Polo engine as the standard for I4 is ridiculous.
The Sunbird actually has a pretty nice, throaty growl. At about 3-4K and accelerating it actually sounds like that "accelerating V8" sound effect that's been dubbed into every police chase video ever.
And when would you see that?
I know that the build quality and reliability on those engines are excellent.
We have 150k+ on a K24, and it's never had so much as a peep of trouble.
It's just getting broken in.
As soon as any sort of enthusiastic driving commenced. Head gaskets are the number one weak point on every Honda I4 ever, and will blow if the engine is pushed hard for any significant length of time. They're also apparently easy to overrev if you don't watch the tach constantly.
For speed, you launch at the optimal rpm for that engine, tires, chassis, and road conditions.
Whether that be 2000rpm in a Duramax or 12 grand on an RC162.
If you're bouncing the limiter on takeoff, or burning a clutch, you're doing something seriously wrong.
Like I said, there are many situations in which a high-strung car won't be able to reach its optimal launch RPM, or will need to be downshifted when a lower-revving, torquier vehicle wouldn't.
3.1L V6 not even making 150hp.
A CR-V makes more power with 2 less cylinders, half a litre less, and a much nicer exhaust note.
The CR-V engine is a much newer design, so not as EPA-ruined, and fairly big for an I4 anyway. It's also the one I would consider most likely to sound like a dying weed whacker.
Oh, and unless you plan on somehow tripling your cars power, you're not going to be getting slammed into your seat.
Not quite true. That thing generates some pretty hard takeoffs already, and the GM V6/60 is known to produce plenty of extra power from elementary modifications.
The 3vz Toyota put in the camry cranked out 185hp, and you could easily push that to 200+ with a better y pipe and leaning out the fuel mix a tad. You're 3.1 is only useful to the Feiro owners with 2.8s that want a cheap power boost without having to dive into wiring.
Like I said, the 3.1 and 3.4 in factory form have a lot of untapped potential themselves.
Civics are quick and can go forever as long as you change their oil every once in a while. But I've seen more busted 2.8s, 3.1s, and 3.4 (all the same engine thats been stroked), theres a reason Feiro owners largely get rid of that dog of an engine.
And also as long as you pretend you're transporting an egg under the gas pedal. A Honda
might be able to withstand drag racing, since that affords plenty of opportunites to cool off between runs, but I wouldn't expect GTP with its sophistication obsession to look very kindly on real-life drag racing.
It's okay to be proud of you're car, but I don't run around screaming about how my Corolla gets 40 mpg so it must be better than modern ecno cars. It's not and I accept that. Acceptance is the first step.....
That has a lot to do with bloat and feature creep ruining economy cars. The Chevrolet Cruze weighs over 3000 lbs. The Dart is estimated at 3300. For all intents and purposes, they're midsize cars. The manufacturers lard them up with luxury garbage and then go "Wait, where's all our fuel economy gone off to? I guess there's nothing left to do but put in an engine so ridiculously small it needs forced induction to do anything." No one here cares because they think every single car ever should have heated leather everything.
You're taking the wrong message from that study.
They were trying to prove that supercars were more exciting than A to B cars, which is true.
You put a 4-AG or K20 against your car, and a V8 truck, and you're going to see different results.
The point I'm making is more about how the Polo actually un-excited the participants of the study.
It's funny because whenever I show up at my daughter's school in the MX-5, I'm drowning in schoolmum clunge. Moreso now it's a bit throatier.
I imagine when I turn up in the even more oppressively loud supercharged V6, they'll think I'm a tosspot.
Have they ever heard it rev, or do they just think it's cute or something?
I can believe you are foolish enough to use this as if it was a compliment when the statement is analogous to FIAT's "Fix it again, Tony;" but it's still surprising that you did.
Technically, it is a compliment. A car that feels like it's going to fall apart, but never does, is better than one that actually does strand you. I don't know what was up with the one in the mall garage, though it probably actually wasn't the head gasket considering that the air in there was still breathable. All I know is, my car was still running, while he was stuck there trying to get cell reception in a parking structure.
Topic : Chrysler.
Discussion : V6 piece of poop vs Pony sounding 4 cylinder.
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Someone brought up Honda as an example of stereotypes, I said something about it, niky responded to my post, and it went from there.
