GTP WRS-Online : Special VI - Motegi Mixed Class Enduro - Aug 5

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Here's the LMS tune I was running guys:

-20/-20
15.0/17.0
6/8
4/6
1/4

1.2/1.6
-0.05/+0.10

5/20/5
BB 5/1 ABS 10

I didn't really set a transmission, just reset to default, top speed all the way to the left, and then adjust the final gear so the top speed (in the top right) is at 280 Kph (174 Mph). Shift at ~7800-8000 - never over.
 
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EDIT: Quali complete, lounge is open. Great run Ren!
 
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UPDATE: Quali complete. Lounge is Open. Nice run Ren (this time in the LMS).

PS> I'm calling it a night. See the rest of you qualifiers tomorrow.
 
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I am available this morning to anyone that would like to qualify. I will check back here periodically. PM me for a quicker response, I get email notifications.

Al
 
Hi guys,

Sorry to say I'm canceling my entry for the support races, and the main event.

Haven't had the time to practice for this one much. I was out the use a of proper wheel for awhile, and just to busy with other things in life.

I'm sure it will be great event, good luck to all.

Blair

ps, I cancelled in the registration forms also.
 
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Lounge is open. Very nice qualifying session Daniel (GTP_n0iZe)
 
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Just letting my Bob finish the breaking in of the RS6 (6 more laps) and then I'll hit the lounge for some GT practice
 
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Just letting my Bob finish the breaking in of the RS6 (6 more laps) and then I'll hit the lounge for some GT practice

Thought it was already broken in since it's a used car
 
Thought it was already broken in since it's a used car

Speedy's talking about the Audi TT car for this week.

Hi guys,

Sorry to say I'm canceling my entry for the support races, and the main event.

Haven't had the time to practice for this one much. I was out the use a of proper wheel for awhile, and just to busy with other things in life.

I'm sure it will be great event, good luck to all.

Blair

ps, I cancelled in the registration forms also.
No problem Blair, but you can't keep ducking us forever ;)
We need to race again sometime 👍
 
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UPDATE: Quali complete. Lounge is open.
 
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UPDATE: Quali complete. Lounge is open. Good run Wes.
 
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Edit: lounge is open again. Kevin has made his LMP run 👍
 
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Good run, Mamba. 👍
 
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Good lap, Mohit! 👍
 
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Great runs Marc and Lucas.
 
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The LMP qualifying window is complete and here are the results:

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Congratz to Twissy for the pole.

There are a few drivers who were signed up for LMP, but did not qualify. You are free to qualify late for LMP, but you will start behind any drivers that made the deadline or you can qualify for the GT class without penalty prior to that deadline.

NOTE: There are a couple drivers on the list above that may not (Gravitron) or will not (Ealirendur) take part in the Sunday Enduro so there is likely at least one open LMP spot. We'll fill that with a GT driver if another LMP entrant doesn't qualify days.
 
looks like ill be at the back of the lmp pack, btw im in for the support races, not sure if i can drive for 2.5 hours
 
looks like ill be at the back of the lmp pack, btw im in for the support races, not sure if i can drive for 2.5 hours

Well, it's only 2.4 hours. :lol:

Plus you get a whole 5 minute break in the middle. :sly:

I can understand the reluctance... every time after 2.4 hours I wonder what I was thinking... and then 5 days later I start bugging the other admins and start planning the next one. :dunce:
 
^^So true. :lol:

Thanks for watching my quali, guys. 👍 I'll go sign up now.
 
Well, it's only 2.4 hours. :lol:

Plus you get a whole 5 minute break in the middle. :sly:

I can understand the reluctance... every time after 2.4 hours I wonder what I was thinking... and then 5 days later I start bugging the other admins and start planning the next one. :dunce:

I'm curious how I will hold up to the 2.4 hours format, seems really intense.
I've never done a race like that and hope to can keep up the pace.
For me it will be unlikly to run so long without a few mistakes :nervous:
 
Does some one have a good LMP tune, especially gears, I'm having to shortshift on every lap to get a good time
 
Just found out that I might be doing something for my mother's birthday around this time, so I'm switching to reserve. I'll run my qualification race either Wednesday or Thursday so I'm all set, in case I get called up.
 
Does some one have a good LMP tune, especially gears, I'm having to shortshift on every lap to get a good time

You've already qualified so all I can say is go very long so you never need first gear and so that you don't get too much wheel spin in 2nd. In my racing tranny I only ever hit 6th gear in the downhill straight following the tight hairpin and I never use first. So more or less I've turned it into a 4 speed. There are a few spots where I could shift into 6th just prior to my braking point, but this car has a flat power curve with the power limiter in play so I just let it rev over the red line until I brake.

Tranny:
  • Reset to default
  • Set final gear to 3.100
  • Top speed all the way left
  • 1st gear all the way left
  • 2nd gear *almost* all the way left
  • 6th gear all the way right
  • Adjust 3-5 fairly evenly spaced
  • Set FG so that max speed is about 212-215 mph (race setup) and adjust FG to your style.

After some laps you tweak FG (and later 2nd and 3rd) for your individual approach and apex speeds. If there are any awkward shift moments you'll want to adjust something to get rid of those, but as I said above going above red line is just fine with this car as long as you don't hit the limiter.

You will still need to start short shifting around lap 6-7 of your runs in certain parts of the track as the rear tires get low to avoid losing the tail... Some drivers will prefer to short shift from the start to save the rear and allow earlier application of throttle. There is no way around short shifting at times with this car. Manage those tires in the early laps as much as possible to minimize the number of laps your nursing the car around.

The tire wear on my car starts out pretty even for about 4-5 laps and then the rears wear much faster after that. Once the wear is uneven it just snow balls and eventually it's a real handful. The lap times will dictate when it's time to stop and get some fresh rubber. That's the beauty of a 2.4 hour race where fuel and the time it takes to add fuel come into play. It's not necessarily faster to run fewer stops as it often is in an hour long race.


I'm curious how I will hold up to the 2.4 hours format, seems really intense.
I've never done a race like that and hope to can keep up the pace.
For me it will be unlikly to run so long without a few mistakes :nervous:

Get excited for this, it's a really cool experience and very different from the hour long races.

You should approach this race differently. Stay within your safe zone. You can't run 2.4 hours of quali laps so you have to find a pace that you can manage consistent laps and avoid mistakes. There is an achievement in just finishing this race whether you finish on the podium or last... if you can finish a "clean" race that would be exceptional. BTW, I'm still looking for my first 100% clean enduro. I had several major mistakes in the Spa enduro as I approached it with the wrong mindset (too aggressive). I learned for Laguna, but still made 1 mistake (from the lead) in the Laguna enduro (involving a GT car and a close encounter) and that one mistake cost me the race which I lost by 1.8 seconds. :dunce: For this combo, I'm having a hard time finishing 10 laps without a mistake at this point so it's unlikely it'll be 100% clean, but that's my goal.

Also take full advantage of that 5 minute break and the "window" it's allowed in. If you find yourself out of a rhythm early take the break early. Leave the room and get a breath of air and refocus. If you are in a groove leave it for later... When you come back there won't be that much time left and you can power to the finish. It's a cool experience, but can be very draining so be prepared and pace yourself to avoid frustration. :sly: Don't extent your stints too long and run out of tread either. You can start with shorter stints and use the extra stops to add less fuel each stop. As you settle into the race you can extend stops if you feel your tire wear justifies it.

Go in with a good fuel/pit plan and you'll have time during pits to think about small tweaks. If you go in with no plan you'll end up in no man's land at some point... out of fuel, out of tires or having to pit with one lap left (ask Hasslemoff :lol:). Don't expect to construct a plan in your head on the spot while navigating the track and traffic. Before the race calculate fuel and estimate how much you'll need to add and when. During the break take a quick look at your plan and see if it's still going to work to bring you to the end... if in doubt add a few more liters and understand you can't be exact because we don't really know how many laps are going to be run... that depends on the leader and their pace... so be ready to short pit toward the end and split the difference if it looks like you'll end up with a very unbalanced stint at the end. This planning is really what makes this even special... take advantage of it. If you guys need help setting up a plan... too bad it's a trade secret. :lol:
 
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But to me, it isn't a secret. Get an idea of the pace you can comfortably run, and run an entire stint at that pace. Find out how many laps you can run per stint, and how much fuel you use. After that, look at the pole sitter's time and multiply that over the 2.4 hours to get an idea as to how many laps will be run (it won't be exact, but it'll be close enough for calculations' sake). Divide that number by the number of laps per stint that you got and you'll have the number of stints you'll run during the race. Take that number and multiply by the number of liters of fuel you used per stint, then subtract 100 (remember, you start with 100 liters of fuel in the tank), then re-divide. This will tell you how much fuel you need to add each pit stop.

That's how I plan my strategy, and be glad it doesn't rain. :lol:
 
But to me, it isn't a secret. Get an idea of the pace you can comfortably run, and run an entire stint at that pace. Find out how many laps you can run per stint, and how much fuel you use. After that, look at the pole sitter's time and multiply that over the 2.4 hours to get an idea as to how many laps will be run (it won't be exact, but it'll be close enough for calculations' sake). Divide that number by the number of laps per stint that you got and you'll have the number of stints you'll run during the race. Take that number and multiply by the number of liters of fuel you used per stint, then subtract 100 (remember, you start with 100 liters of fuel in the tank), then re-divide. This will tell you how much fuel you need to add each pit stop.

That's how I plan my strategy, and be glad it doesn't rain. :lol:

You'll be getting a notice in the mail pertaining to a certain patent infringement. :lol:

PS> The secret part was just a joke in case you didn't figure that out already.
 
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Go in with a good fuel/pit plan and you'll have time during pits to think about small tweaks. If you go in with no plan you'll end up in no man's land at some point... out of fuel, out of tires or having to pit with one lap left (ask Hasslemoff :lol:). Don't expect to construct a plan in your head on the spot while navigating the track and traffic. Before the race calculate fuel and estimate how much you'll need to add and when. During the break take a quick look at your plan and see if it's still going to work to bring you to the end... if in doubt add a few more liters and understand you can't be exact because we don't really know how many laps are going to be run... that depends on the leader and their pace... so be ready to short pit toward the end and split the difference if it looks like you'll end up with a very unbalanced stint at the end. This planning is really what makes this even special... take advantage of it. If you guys need help setting up a plan... too bad it's a trade secret. :lol:

Thanks for all the useful tips, Tim 👍

I really have to learn how to calculate fuel, maybe tonight I will do some testing.
I hope to be well rested for the race and stay as clean as I can.
 
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