GTP WTAC Week 99: N1 touring car AWD vs FF

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GTP WTAC Week 99 : N1 touring car AWD vs FF, ready to rumble! (aka easyasashii's Choice)​


*** Week 99 was chosen by the WTAC founder, easyasashii! He chose two touring cars (which I personally love to drive) which should ensure that I have a smile on my face all week! ***



1. Track : Apricot Hill Raceway (reverse)


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2. Cars : Mazda6 Touring Car & Honda INTEGRA TYPE R Touring Car

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IMPORTANT ! This is a combined times challenge: you'll need to run both cars; rankings will be made based on your combined times.

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3. Cars specifics:

- Transmission: either
- Tires: R1 / R1
- TCS : at your disposal
- ASM : off
- Active Steering : off
- Driving Physics : Professional

All in-game quick-tune options are at your disposal (Press Triangle when selecting your car to add the car to your favorites and tinker with any available settings).

Hybrid cars, the use of CFW tuning or any other way of cheating (such as the Action Replay for PSP) is forbidden...

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4. Duration of the challenges : this challenge will start Monday April 9th 4:00 pm GMT+2 and will end Monday April 16th 3:59 pm GMT+2 (one week !)

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5. Time submission :

You'll have to post your Ghost Replay Data + Photo before Monday April 16th 3:59 pm GMT+2. If you miss the deadline, your laptimes won't be in the website.

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6. Rules :

You'll have to follow the Host and Compete in a GT Planet Time Attack Challenge (GTPTAC) You'll have to follow the Host and Compete in a GT Planet Time Attack Challenge (GTPTAC) ! Just to remind you :
Clean or Dirty lap :
- Colliding with or using walls, fences, cones or other obstacle is forbidden. All times submitted must be 100% wall free.
- Two wheels (except when airborne, where the vertical projection of the car onto the track counts) must be in contact with the tarmac which does not include all green/grassed/sanded/graveled areas.
- NO SPARKS! (this does not include 'bottoming' the car out on the tarmac or rumble strips; but does include walls/barriers)
Rumble/ripple strips :
- having two wheels/tires on a corner's inside rumble strips and two off track is considered unclean
- having two wheels/tires on a corner's outside rumble strips and two off track is considered clean.


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7. LeaderBoards

The leaderboards will be on the website


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8. Current session points leaders:


Place - Competitor - Points

1st #l-l Antares26####24
2nd #-l Detroitbb####)18
3rd #l-l zipiol#######.12#
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5th #l-l vaughan####$l11###(tied for 5th)
5th #l-l Awaren#####.l11#
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#(tied for 5th)
6th #l-l MVR08#######7
7th #l-l easyasashii####6
8th #l-l red ice#######3


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Sry, Detroitbb. You made a little mistake this time too :-) You misspelled Easy's nick. It's only a detail but i believe it's Easyasashii ;-)
 
Awaren
Sry, Detroitbb. You made a little mistake this time too :-) You misspelled Easy's nick. It's only a detail but i believe it's Easyasashii ;-)
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Mon dieu! I've been making a lot of mistakes lately! I guess it's a sign that I'm becoming old and senile! Ha ha ha

Thanks for the help - I truly appreciate it and obviously need it!

:) 👍 :)
 
zipiol
Integra has nice sound ;)
and good car over all.
I need to buy mazda still...:ill:
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I agree! The Honda does sound nice!

👍

Make sure you buy the correct Mazda touring car - the Mazda6, not the Mazda Atenza... they both have different performance (they only look identical on the outside; under the hood, they are quite different).
 
First time for the Mazda6 Touring Car :

1'29.266.

BUT I don't know if it's because we just had a very good week, this challenge is a little bit boring in comparison : lack of HP for me, a little bit frustrating... I also have a strange feeling that I'm going to struggle a lot to be way faster than that : I aim a mid 1'28, let's see what's happening this week.

Good luck everyone !

:cheers:
 
I decided to give the Mazda 6 Touring Car a try.

1'28.898

I used the 6-8 spring-damper balance and set rear toe to 0 yet the car seemed to be very sensitive to understeer. Maybe I'll try running the ITR to see the difference in both cars.
 
I did about 3 laps with the ITR and came up with...

1'29.812

The gear ratio of the ITR was a lot closer than the one on the Mazda6, it had better acceleration, but needed to shift gears a lot quicker too, and the top speed on the main straight is slow compared to the Mazda.

I can probably improve it a bit more though, but I really think the Mazda6 will be the faster one this week.
 
Antares26
I did about 3 laps with the ITR and came up with...

1'29.812

The gear ratio of the ITR was a lot closer than the one on the Mazda6, it had better acceleration, but needed to shift gears a lot quicker too, and the top speed on the main straight is slow compared to the Mazda.

I can probably improve it a bit more though, but I really think the Mazda6 will be the faster one this week.
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I agree. Same here 1'29.836 (L-F tuning), seems to be smoother but definitively slower than the Mazda (which has 310 hp too but 1070 kilos vs 1050 for the ITR (nailed it ;)))

New time with the Mazda : 1'28.480 (L-F tuning)

but don't do like me : restart every time I miss first corner, I wasted precious practice time with the other corners... and it got me so frustrated quickly, I let the psp alone and play PS3...

Good luck all ! And don't worry if you have a 1'30, still early in the week, you've got time to improve and improvement will be greater, you'll catch up soon !

PS : I really think this track would be more suitable for higher HP cars because of the long straights it has... Sorry, Mea Culpa... :bowdown:
:cheers:

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easyasashii
but don't do like me : restart every time I miss first corner, I wasted precious practice time with the other corners... and it got me so frustrated quickly, I let the psp alone and play PS3...
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I do just that, honestly, I usually grasp the whole track and how the car will react in the first 5 laps in each car. When I see that the car reacts differently or has difficulty in one corner, I focus my attention there. When I miss those corners, "Start-Restart" :P 👍
 
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I remember asking which WTAC session we are on, and I traced everything from the WTAC that easy started, plus a little help from the statistics thread (thank God it exists, I wished it could be kept up to date, though...) we are on our 12th WTAC Session! :D :tup
 
Antares26
I remember asking which WTAC session we are on, and I traced everything from the WTAC that easy started, plus a little help from the statistics thread (thank God it exists, I wished it could be kept up to date, though...) we are on our 12th WTAC Session! :D :tup
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First times

Mazda 6 : 1'28.932
Honda Integra: 1'29.368

At first I had to keep restarting with the honda because of the understeer but with some tuning I'm comfortable.
 
New time with the Mazda : 1'28.106

I'm stuck at 1'28.1xx though .145 .132 .127 .113 :crazy:

Worse, I usually have one split .1xx faster than my .106 but can't manage to make it to the end and finally hit a 1'27.xxx.

Where are you at guys ?

Anyone already in 1'27 :scared: ?

:cheers:
 
I did a few laps with both cars again, and somehow corrected my settings with the Mazda.
Mazda6 ~ 1'27.790
ITR ~ 1'28.520
 
Antares26
I did a few laps with both cars again, and somehow corrected my settings with the Mazda.
Mazda6 ~ 1'27.790
ITR ~ 1'28.520
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So... Mazda6 is a AWD Touring Car, so which setup to start with ?

Touring Cars/FF Race Cars
Aero: 19/44
Height: -5/-5
Springs: 6/6
Dampers: 7/7
Toe: -0.35/-0.25
Camber: 2.5/2.0
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or

DTM Cars/4WD Race Cars
Aero: 32/56
Height: -5/-5
Springs: 6/6
Dampers: 8/8
Toe: -0.35/-0.35
Camber: 3.0/3.0
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?

;)

I personally started with L-F tuning :

Aero - max
Ride Height - 0/0
Spring Rate - 3/3
Damper - 4/4
Toe - 0/0
Camber Angle - 0/0
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then Tried out the one L-F used for the DTM we ran @ Apricot Hill Raceway - Reverse at week 02 !

Aero - 32/56 (well, aero max for the Mazda6)
Ride Height - 0/0
Spring Rate - 6/4
Damper - 4/4
Toe - -0.05/-0.05
Camber Angle - 1.0/0.5
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I added some camber to it to both front & rear and there's where I'm stuck... 1'28.1xx :ouch:

Good luck !

:cheers:
 
I'm STUCK and can't stop trying with the Mazda6 :crazy: !!!

Man, I haven't put serious laps with the ITR :scared: !

Nervously tough WTAC for me !
 
For the Mazda6, I used the Touring Car/FF settings, since the car doesn't have much downforce. I tried using the DTM setup, which was the default setting for the car, but all I got was a very stiff ride and lots of understeer.

MVR08
Did some laps with the Integra and managed an 1'27.7xx stock.
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Wow! That's something I got to aim for this week. Good lap there, MVR! 👍
 

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