GTP_PSN ID for GT5 Registry & WRS

[SgtWhitten]

It would be great if you could add a tag in game.

They should add an online team feature (like a guild in wow....) so you can add tags to your name and have a team banner. Oh oh oh and have the ability to battle other teams or have an online calendar so that people can post events and people can sign up in-game.

Its starting to sound like an MMO.

I'll be quiet now.

 

[BobElHat]

Clearly the benefit of using a GTP_ tag is to be able to compete in the wrs and any other gtp organized events.

I think you've got that backwards. We only need a GTP tag to compete because the events require it. The discussion is around whether there is any advantage to requiring it. As far as the WRS goes I don't see the point in requiring the GTP tag, but for online racing it's good to know at a glance who's with GTP and it helps promote the site.

 

[DGiant2000]

Having battled through the nonsense that was the punters on prologue, I will only be racing against people with a GTP tag or who I know have one even if they arent running it (GTRP, GTHQ guys etc). The register and the GTP tag is the only way we have of knowing who is a fair racer or not.

 

[filphil89]

What do you see as the drawbacks?

You're doing a fine job of complaining, but I don't see any solutions.

The tag is a sign of clean and fair racing, and clearly identifies this.

With an expected registry size of more than 1,000 members, the lack of a tag will cause confusion.

The game has been out for 2 days, but we thought it would be best to take a stance on this now, before people get too far into the game.

It certainly is a clear sign of racing which I understand. However that's the only benefit highlighted by Sjaak. It's also a freely open tag which anyone can acquire with zero consequences.

Still, the benefit of using the GTP tag far outweighs not using it.

What are these outweighing benefits? What benefit does this tag have to anyone on a publicly hosted game? I see none other than this person is representing a community, which is an absolutely legit reason. How would you go about enforcing someone wrongfully carrying the GTP tag?

I think you've got that backwards. We only need a GTP tag to compete because the events require it. The discussion is around whether there is any advantage to requiring it. As far as the WRS goes I don't see the point in requiring the GTP tag, but for online racing it's good to know at a glance who's with GTP and it helps promote the site.

I see someone here agrees to some extent about the GTP tag. Please excuse me if I'm wrong in assuming so. However I did not consider the promotion for the site as one of the benefits since I didn't even think about it. It's a good benefit. If benefits like this were put out, who in their right mind would complain about it?

My solution to this problem is:
Yes, keep the registry open. It's only right to apply as a representative through any means necessary. I suggest rather than using the GTP tag the community implement the use of the community or lounge. I haven't explored it myself but maybe there's something there such as a signature or a public profile.

Keep this particular subforum the same, except those REGISTERED as a GTP user, as in qualified correctly through lap time, gain access to a private GTP EVENT sub-forum which lists who will host which room and what event on which day. Th WRS results could still be publicly viewed as well in a public forum in order for people to see the competition going on and, hopefully, gain interest.

EDK - Yes, you're a moderator and I understand there are some things you HAVE to defend. However, anyone may mistaken the post you directed toward me as condescending. What I'm trying to find out is what benefits do you provide us, the community, for registering a new account while discarding all the work some of us have done on GT5 and the other games linked to their account solely on benefits we don't entirely know(yet)? This may sound like a somewhat foolish reason, but convenience is going to sway many people away from this if they have to restart a their gt5 save.

 

[Sjaak]

filphil89, I think you will never satisfied with any answer you will get.
But I will try to convince you of the purpose of the tag.
A way of living is known sentence and the GTP_ tag tells the same.

The tag stands for a special experience with the game.
The devotion and commitment of players of this game is beyond any other game they perhaps also playing.

The tag is GT.

But you insist about the benefits I mentioned.
For instance a hidden forum for GTP_members,organised online races by the OLR staff,participating in board challenges.

If you do not agree with this GT site having a tag registry we will respect that.
Many forums have also tags but by signing up the GTP_Tag you also agree in word to the GTplanet OLR rules and guidlines.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111241

This makes the difference between a registered member and any other racer online.
Both are clean on the track but with one you can see it in a instant and count on it.

 

[filphil89]

Nope, again there's no need to make an assumption. There's no way I wouldn't accept that. It's merely a question as to what aspects are put behind these decisions that I want to know.

Even the logistical aspects are what I'd like to see. Again, I'll mention that I did not consider the promotion of the forum as a possible benefit because it was not anywhere NEAR my mind.

Those features you pointed out are what bring people in to register. EDK made valid points with it being confusing without the tag and taking a stand before people progress to far in to the game.

 

[LinPark]

In my opinion, using the ring would be brutal on the participants and the people reviewing the replays. Also, GTP_tag gets my vote - either you believe or you don't - I've seen guys here get away with things while using a non-GTP account - I see that GTP_ and I know your intentions - and the advertising for the site is also critical for that - I think we've drawn some other guys to this site in the past (like Rudi and Ramon) because of that reputation and it has made for some great competition in the WRS.

I think the original qualifier for GT5 was more than enough to separate out the divisions and would love to see exactly how it would play out if we used that again for GT5 - for those that didn't take part or have forgotten, it was the F430 at Suzuka.

As always, I look forward to whatever the OLR Admins decide - anxiously awaiting the next WRS and the very first GTP Race Event 01 for GT5!! 👍

P.S. If you do happen to decide to use the ring, please just put me in the lowest Div you have and I'll take it from there.

 

[EDK]

My solution to this problem is:
Yes, keep the registry open. It's only right to apply as a representative through any means necessary. I suggest rather than using the GTP tag the community implement the use of the community or lounge. I haven't explored it myself but maybe there's something there such as a signature or a public profile.

Keep this particular subforum the same, except those REGISTERED as a GTP user, as in qualified correctly through lap time, gain access to a private GTP EVENT sub-forum which lists who will host which room and what event on which day. Th WRS results could still be publicly viewed as well in a public forum in order for people to see the competition going on and, hopefully, gain interest.

EDK - Yes, you're a moderator and I understand there are some things you HAVE to defend. However, anyone may mistaken the post you directed toward me as condescending. What I'm trying to find out is what benefits do you provide us, the community, for registering a new account while discarding all the work some of us have done on GT5 and the other games linked to their account solely on benefits we don't entirely know(yet)? This may sound like a somewhat foolish reason, but convenience is going to sway many people away from this if they have to restart a their gt5 save.

The tone of my post was intentional. You are a new member, and your post could be construed as trolling. The wording of this post is much better, so thanks for clarifying your intentions.

the race admins act as a team. To be honest, I was in your court on the tag requirement. But my reason had nothing to do with the tag. It related to the inevitable complaints from members such as yourself.

As Sjaak stated in his post, we MAY change our position on this. But at this time, if you would like to be a registry member, you need to use a GTP tag. This is not a debate. Feel free to express your opinion, but our current position will not be changed by it.

Finally, sorry that I don't have time to address all of the points in your post. I'm posting from my phone, while away from home.

 

[filphil89]

The tone of my post was intentional. You are a new member, and your post could be construed as trolling. The wording of this post is much better, so thanks for clarifying your intentions.

the race admins act as a team. To be honest, I was in your court on the tag requirement. But my reason had nothing to do with the tag. It related to the inevitable complaints from members such as yourself.

As Sjaak stated in his post, we MAY change our position on this. But at this time, if you would like to be a registry member, you need to use a GTP tag. This is not a debate. Feel free to express your opinion, but our current position will not be changed by it.

Finally, sorry that I don't have time to address all of the points in your post. I'm posting from my phone, while away from home.

The complaints I have could easily be remedied in the future. I wasn't offended from either Sjaak's or your own statements. Who knows what KAZ might bring up with the many updates he claims he has coming.

I also don't know if I read that status of the tag is still pending. As long as the exclusivity of the tag is kept via the private forums, competitions, etc that Sjaak mentioned, then there still is benefit. A way to combat the problems associated with the SAVE LOCK is to initially keep the competition with cars and tracks immediately available to someone who picks up the game from the store. When you decide to introduce the unlockable contents is up to you guys but I think a GTP_ vote would be appropriate. As a new member I do not know how these are run but I'm sure you'll see me contributing in as many free ways as possible.

 

[GTP_FastM3]

+1 👍

Think this comment has some real value.

Nurburgring would force you to drive a balanced run and do your very best throughout the session in order to get a meaningful time on the board

I'm wondering if Nurburgring is a little too long for a qualifier. To qualify on Fuji I did about 50 laps before I felt I was consistently putting in good times. 50 laps of the Nurbruging will likely take about 6 hours. I don't know if I have that kind of time to put in to qualifying. Why not make it a track that can be learned a little quicker?

 

[jswilli1]

Having battled through the nonsense that was the punters on prologue, I will only be racing against people with a GTP tag or who I know have one even if they arent running it (GTRP, GTHQ guys etc). The register and the GTP tag is the only way we have of knowing who is a fair racer or not.

It was a "No Brainer" to use my GTP_jswilli1 for GT5, just like you mentioned in your post. My PSN GTP_jswilli1 will be used only for GT5 and no other games. My original PSN jswilli1 is used for everything else, big deal if I don't have the GT5 trophies there. The only thing I regret is not submitting my stuff for GT5P when I created the account. I was in the middle of a job transfer and moving and never submitted it. Looking forward to the upcoming races and being able to proudly display my GTP_ tag and race with some of the best online players I have ever met!

 

[arora]

I think you've got that backwards. We only need a GTP tag to compete because the events require it.

Not sure how that is backwards, but yeah, that was the point.

The discussion is around whether there is any advantage to requiring it. As far as the WRS goes I don't see the point in requiring the GTP tag, but for online racing it's good to know at a glance who's with GTP and it helps promote the site.

I trust the OLR team to do whatever they feel is best. I did not start my gt5 game witha gtp tag and I figured from the start that would keep me out of the wrs for a while, unless I start another game at a later time.

I'm not concerned with promoting the gtp site at all. Fortunatly for me, I have many friends on other boards, through msn, through years of psn, etc. I will have absolutely zero trouble finding the highest calaber racers that they are 👍

 

[Akmuq]

Ok. I will use the GTP_ tag, it's just when it's an offline time trial what is the point?
I know that your respected amongst other gtp members and that you represent clean online racing but when your offline what's the point?

 

[filphil89]

Ok. I will use the GTP_ tag, it's just when it's an offline time trial what is the point?
I know that your respected amongst other gtp members and that you represent clean online racing but when your offline what's the point?

One of the main reason to apply for GTP is to participate on the OLR organized racing competitions. If you're not going to play online, then there is no point. There are other race series/time trials going on right now such as the Tsukuba Open going on right now.

 

[Jack]

Ok. I will use the GTP_ tag, it's just when it's an offline time trial what is the point?
I know that your respected amongst other gtp members and that you represent clean online racing but when your offline what's the point?

One of the main reason to apply for GTP is to participate on the OLR organized racing competitions. If you're not going to play online, then there is no point. There are other race series/time trials going on right now such as the Tsukuba Open going on right now.

filphil89 is excatly right. The main benefit of the GTP_tag is the online benefits it bring. But you can't pick and choose. Online and Offline comes in the same package.

Offline offcial competitions such as WRS are still run by the Race Admin Team here and it's a requirement that you run it with a tag. Running offline with a tag shows;

• You're commited into running the competition rules and standards.
• You aren't out to cheat / troll.
• Honest and trust worthy.
• And most of all, enjoy the game and fun of the series.

Opening it up to anybody opens the whole of WRS up to cheats. Any member of GTPlanet can run a lap, cutting corners, the wrong specifications etc, but having a GTP_tag limits this by a huge amount.

Of course the main benefit is the Online side the tag brings. There will be many, many GTP Events run by the staff. I can tell you from the last 3 that have taken place, these are incredible fun and worth every tiny bit of effort it takes to setup a GTP_tag.

 

[Godzola]

Reluctantly, my GTP_ tag is ready.

I understand all the reasons. But I guarantee, people won't join the community solely for this reason.

If you were playing this game for a year, two years, would you honestly start over your profile? I don't foresee too many people doing this.
I'm sad to do it, and I'm only "2%" in the game. I feel like I wasted six-ish hours of game time, with all silvers B and A, 8 golds, and a couple of other things.

I'm supportive of the WRS and GTP. (Like I said on the introduction thread, I raced about 35 weeks of GT4 WRS solid, and a good bit more over roughly 40 weeks.) I'm not 'trolling.' That said, I want to see policies implemented that will further the growth of the best competitive GT site on the web. I raced on three different websites when I was active. I truly believe this is the best one out there.

I know the powers that be will make the best choice for the long term health of the WRS and other official GTP competitions.

 

[filphil89]

Well the good thing is you can have two accounts. They're free. Use one for GTP services and one for your own leisure. It would have been nice if our GTP accounts could have data transfered from our mains, but unless KAZ does something about this there's nothing we can do other than be hit by this inconvenience.

 

[happycorey]

Kind of offtopic, but has anyone checked if you are able to gift the car BACK to your main account??

 

[Godzola]

Kind of offtopic, but has anyone checked if you are able to gift the car BACK to your main account??

lol, yeah, that's kinda important.

 

[BobElHat]

You can gift cars back and forth between accounts at will (I have tested this) and in online racing you aren't limited to the cars in your own garage.

So, as far as I can tell you don't need to have much of anything on your GTP account. If it's not your main account it's a minor inconvenience gifting the occasional car rather than having to start the whole game again. I'm going to stick playing with my main account mostly and just use the GTP account for the GTP WRS and and race series.

 

[fullysik911]

Hi I am a first time user and keen on getting started with the GTP_ setup but was wondering what I need to do? Could someone break down the necessary steps or point me in the wright direction? Is it as simple as starting a new PSN account with the GTP_tag or is there more to it?

 

[happycorey]

You can gift cars back and forth between accounts at will (I have tested this) and in online racing you aren't limited to the cars in your own garage.

Awesome thank you. I was wondering because also someone said that they gifted back and forth and one car was lost in the internet somewhere and only one went through, instead of two when he sent them both.

 

[Godzola]

So, as far as I can tell you don't need to have much of anything on your GTP account. If it's not your main account it's a minor inconvenience gifting the occasional car rather than having to start the whole game again.

Ok, let's hope this is the case.

 

[StrokerAce]

To the mods:

I don't see this plan of action working terribly well in the future. If say I discover the GTP forums next year after I am level 99, and have 10,000,000 cr. I really doubt I will want to change my name and start all over to race in the WRS. You will most likely have to do a first and only sign up period for the entire infinite season of the WRS.

Also, about the people only assuming GTP tags mean clean racers; Youre wrong. I can make 50 different GTP tags as well as anyone else and race as dirty as I want, If someone has a mean streak or is bored then they will be immature and just create a free account with the tag and no one can stop them. I had this problem on Xbox live too where its 800 MS points to change your name.

Like I said before, I see the point, but I don't see what this really does. Too many loopholes and we are going to be dealing with a MUCH bigger crowd of racers this time around. I don't expect all the people to change account names, and I expect people to lose interest quickly if this become mandatory.

Either way...
I have my PpR account as my main, and my GTP ready for this if still needed.

 

[Sjaak]

To the mods:

I don't see this plan of action working terribly well in the future. If say I discover the GTP forums next year after I am level 99, and have 10,000,000 cr. I really doubt I will want to change my name and start all over to race in the WRS. You will most likely have to do a first and only sign up period for the entire infinite season of the WRS.

The gift feature can solve this.

Also, about the people only assuming GTP tags mean clean racers; Youre wrong. I can make 50 different GTP tags as well as anyone else and race as dirty as I want, If someone has a mean streak or is bored then they will be immature and just create a free account with the tag and no one can stop them. I had this problem on Xbox live too where its 800 MS points to change your name.

You are not new on this forum,you should now how it works.
Of course everybody is free to make any GTP PSN account they want.
Punt all off the track ,cursing in messages ,the lot.
But when the tag name is not on our list,he has not committed himself to our rules.
People can can easily found out he is a fraud.
And in the occasion the punter is indeed on the registry list,we will get complaints and we can take actions.

Like I said before, I see the point, but I don't see what this really does. Too many loopholes and we are going to be dealing with a MUCH bigger crowd of racers this time around. I don't expect all the people to change account names, and I expect people to lose interest quickly if this become mandatory.

Either way...
I have my PpR account as my main, and my GTP ready for this if still needed.

Thin ice,yes,but doing nothing is also no option.

We have a choice to make.
Registry or no registry,tag or no tag,joining or not joining

 

[Andy2125]

Also, about the people only assuming GTP tags mean clean racers; Youre wrong. I can make 50 different GTP tags as well as anyone else and race as dirty as I want, If someone has a mean streak or is bored then they will be immature and just create a free account with the tag and no one can stop them. I had this problem on Xbox live too where its 800 MS points to change your name.

Just want to add to Sjaaks reaction that when you are racing against someone with the GTP tag, odds are still greater that your racing with a clean racer, rather then someone who's playing bumper cars.

It is possible that someone wants to disrespect the GTP tag. But I think you'll be really unlucky when come across some like that.

Since there are allot of protesters in this thread I'd like to point out to the mods that I'm using my GTP with proud

 

[dranddad]

You can gift cars back and forth between accounts at will (I have tested this) and in online racing you aren't limited to the cars in your own garage.

So, as far as I can tell you don't need to have much of anything on your GTP account. If it's not your main account it's a minor inconvenience gifting the occasional car rather than having to start the whole game again. I'm going to stick playing with my main account mostly and just use the GTP account for the GTP WRS and and race series.

Thanks for your time and effort in finding this out Bob.

This is a great help to old-uns like me and the forum members, wish there were more like yourself.

GTP_Tag is my main account, if I wish to transfer anything to my Dranddad account I know I can.

I was just going to do the game twice (double the fun) on both accounts.

Phillip.

 

[scope72]

I only had the opportunity to participate in one GT5P WRS. But I am definitely looking forward to the new one. 👍

Oh and for what it's worth, I would stick with the GTP_ setup. Gifting cars back and forth is easy.

 

[racingfreak01]

I really cant understand all the peoples problems with just creating a GTP psn account? You dont even have to play in it if you dont want to, "gifting" a car once a week is hardly any effort...

If you cant take the time and effort to gift one car a week, how on earth will you have the time and effort to put 4+ hours of effort into submitting your best time possible for the week?

The Race Admin ran GT5p for 2 years and that was a huge success, so I'm 100% with any decision they make...

I'm proud of wearing the GTP tag and anyone not willing to add this to their name should rather find another place to get their racing fix

 

[jimantonic]

GTP_ with pride all the way, spent too much time on the qualifier not to use it, and I'm now glad I earned it.