GTP_PSN ID for GT5 Registry & WRS

[DOUQA]

GTP_ with pride all the way, spent too much time on the qualifier not to use it, and I'm now glad I earned it.

Erm... Hate to be the one to break it to you but we're going to have to run another.

O.T. i believe a member poll would be the best way to sort it out. Unless PD/Sony UN-copy protect the game save, which I doubt. Perhaps a poll of currently registered WRS members at first.

There are two very good sides to the argument presented in this thread.

The community spirit.
The confidence in your opponents.
the representation of GTP attained through running with a tag
VS
The inconvenience of car gifting.
Having to unlock tracks again.
The fact that a year down the line people could be reluctant to sign up.

Im not sure about online as I haven't checked it out yet but if licences are required to compete at different levels we'd have to do them again also.

Perhaps the December 1st updates will provide the capability to add an in game tag to your PSN ID. I hope they do, I enjoy racing with the tag and would love to be sat 16th on the grid to see 15 GTP tagged racers sitting in front of me.

 

[filphil89]

The inconvenience of car gifting.
Having to unlock tracks again.
The fact that a year down the line people could be reluctant to sign up.

There are a few risk involved with car gifting. Some people report losing their cars. I don't know how these events are run, but spending time to get a car then tuning it to certain specifications only to be lost is a scary thought. Again, the option is to keep it low buck, simple, etc so the risk of losing something isn't as serious if it were to happen.

A year down the road people will definitely be reluctant as many people will be unfamiliar with GTP. It's only a matter of promotion for them to be nudged a bit.

If you read further down Sjaak posted some of the benefits of being a registered GTP member when I requested some benefits.

The largest benefit I see is simply being able to race online, with clean people in already organized events with possibility of points, stats, whatever.
The GTP tag also makes it LOADS easier on the administrative team because they don't have to go back and forth between a list of registrants and who's in the room. There are logistics involved as well to their decision to keep the GTP tag.

 

[Joylord]

I personally felt a sense of achievement when first acquired my GTP status, and people need rules, that’s why you get punters because there is no sense of community with them….. as well as no pride. I am proud to use my GTP tag as the guys put and have put a lot of work into creating events which has brought a lot of entertainment and joy into my life. They are brilliant guys and when I see a GTP tag I have a positive and feel assured that the fellow GTP'er is following the same set of rules as I, and there for..... allows me to have confidence in having a good clean and fair race and that is what I'm after. So I will keep using my tag in promoting clean and fair racing (OLR) and support this site as there are truly good gentlemen, camaraderie and good banter.

I will follow any rule the adim team come up with, within reason..... But all I can say is that I can't wait to get on line with you fellow GTP'ers. MISS IT.

Why don't we go through the game together week by week.

My two pennies.

Thanks

Jonathan.

 

[Akmuq]

filphil89 is excatly right. The main benefit of the GTP_tag is the online benefits it bring. But you can't pick and choose. Online and Offline comes in the same package.

Offline offcial competitions such as WRS are still run by the Race Admin Team here and it's a requirement that you run it with a tag. Running offline with a tag shows;

• You're commited into running the competition rules and standards.
• You aren't out to cheat / troll.
• Honest and trust worthy.
• And most of all, enjoy the game and fun of the series.

Opening it up to anybody opens the whole of WRS up to cheats. Any member of GTPlanet can run a lap, cutting corners, the wrong specifications etc, but having a GTP_tag limits this by a huge amount.

Of course the main benefit is the Online side the tag brings. There will be many, many GTP Events run by the staff. I can tell you from the last 3 that have taken place, these are incredible fun and worth every tiny bit of effort it takes to setup a GTP_tag.

I understand now. I've already had a GTP_ tag for a month anyways but I was just questioning.

 

[BlacqueJacques]

I vote to keep using (our) my GTP_ tag; I use it for all games I play online (e.g. F1 2010)

 

[Akmuq]

I hope they do, I enjoy racing with the tag and would love to be sat 16th on the grid to see 15 GTP tagged racers sitting in front of me.

And I would love to be sitting on the grid ahead of you.

 

[Sureboss]

I personally felt a sense of achievement when first acquired my GTP status, and people need rules, that’s why you get punters because there is no sense of community with them….. as well as no pride. I am proud to use my GTP tag as the guys put and have put a lot of work into creating events which has brought a lot of entertainment and joy into my life. They are brilliant guys and when I see a GTP tag I have a positive and feel assured that the fellow GTP'er is following the same set of rules as I, and there for..... allows me to have confidence in having a good clean and fair race and that is what I'm after. So I will keep using my tag in promoting clean and fair racing (OLR) and support this site as there are truly good gentlemen, camaraderie and good banter.

I will follow any rule the adim team come up with, within reason..... But all I can say is that I can't wait to get on line with you fellow GTP'ers. MISS IT.

Why don't we go through the game together week by week.

My two pennies.

Thanks

Jonathan.

I remember racing you before you had the GTP_ tag. Which is another massive benefit of the tag, it's a way of recruiting (if you will) other drivers. They see you racing cleanly, etc, and notice the tag and want more of it.

 

[The Internet]

I haven't participated in WRS since GT4 and only bought my PS3 when I heard that GT5 was finally going to be released. Getting a GTP_PSN ID seems easy enough but I don't understand why I'd need to restart my game to unlock the tracks for it. Is the save attached to one certain PSN ID? Is each ID attached to only one username on the PS3? How do we turn in our ghost replays? If someone could explain all this for me, it would really help. WRS was a lot of fun and I'd like to participate again; maybe in some online races as well if I get the time.

 

[Ezza75]

Respect for other racers, their race car, my race car & good clean racing ettiquette; and the values this community & GTP_ tag represents. This is what I choose to uphold when going online wearing GTP_tag.

I look forward to WRS and Race Admin organised OLR.

 

[tyl0r_r]

Keep the tag! . Can't wait for the new quali, coming in the next couple weeks? You guys work quick.

 

[ChromeBallz]

Whether the GTP tag is a matter of necessity or a matter or pride should be taken into consideration. As has been mentioned before, recruiting only becomes more difficult as time goes on because people will be reluctant to go through the process of unlocking tracks again and risking losing their cars in gifting - They have a savegame they invested a lot of time in already.

That, and a GTP tag is not protected - Given that there's over 800 people registered last time i checked, no one except the truly diehard GTP admins will bother to check whether a name they see online is actually on the list.

Names have to be checked regardless of tag, the workload stays exactly the same as far as time trials are concerned. As for race events, only 16 people can take part in a race and it won't take long to check those names real quick i'd say? Something that has to be done regardless of whether there's a tag or not?

When i go online i try to do my best, tag or not. "Outsiders", for lack of another word, will not care whether anyone has the tag or not, and it will be all the more sour when a griefer creates a psn account just to tarnish it. You can't get the word out "to the general public" that someone isn't actually a member of the club.



I really get the arguments for keeping the tag around, but i don't really understand the necessity of it. Eventually it increases the work for everyone involved since lists have to be maintained with aliases, the individual work regarding making a new save and unlocking stuff again and risking losing cars from the gifts...

I'll do what it takes to be able to compete in the WRS, but i feel obligated to point all this out. Serious consideration should be put into deciding whether enforcing the tag is worth all the hassle, and it not, it shouldn't lead to creating a rift in the community of "those who make the sacrifices" and those who don't.

 

[JeremiahFyffe]

A definitive reason why I cannot use my GTP_ tag is that I already registered my CE special cars with my main account (MacFyffe). The fact is that I don't want to "re-level and license" my GTP_ account when my CE cars and other DLC in the future are going to be on my main. I do think that this will be a major issue with others as well.

I feel greatly for the desire to maintain the GTP community by maintaining the GTP_ tag. It seems to me that the only way that this can really happen is if PD implements a "TAG" system within the game community itself. It would be a great system for their to be community tags in place with which to create racing teams and such. It is here that we can require people to apply for a place on various GTP_ teams. And it doesn't seem like it would be a major issue for PD if they had enough requests to simply allow for the attachment of TAGs to usernames, much like clan tags in other games.

But for now, as much as I like the community of my GTP_ tag, I'm going to keep playing on my main account in large part because of my $40 of CE cars.

 

[motzkopf]

I only race online with my GTP_ account, regardless of the game. I vote to keep the community alive. Now if there were some way to create a new umbrella organization that could get all the Gran Turismo communities together, then maybe it would be possible to get PD to recognize the community at-large, and make changes to accommodate online racing communities, gamer tags, community lobbies, etc.

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

A definitive reason why I cannot use my GTP_ tag is that I already registered my CE special cars with my main account (MacFyffe). The fact is that I don't want to "re-level and license" my GTP_ account when my CE cars and other DLC in the future are going to be on my main. I do think that this will be a major issue with others as well.

I feel greatly for the desire to maintain the GTP community by maintaining the GTP_ tag. It seems to me that the only way that this can really happen is if PD implements a "TAG" system within the game community itself. It would be a great system for their to be community tags in place with which to create racing teams and such. It is here that we can require people to apply for a place on various GTP_ teams. And it doesn't seem like it would be a major issue for PD if they had enough requests to simply allow for the attachment of TAGs to usernames, much like clan tags in other games.

But for now, as much as I like the community of my GTP_ tag, I'm going to keep playing on my main account in large part because of my $40 of CE cars.

I started out on my main account but decided to go with my GTP account and all my stealth / chromline cars carried over.

 

[dranddad]

So I will keep using my tag in promoting clean and fair racing (OLR) and support this site as there are truly good gentlemen, camaraderie and good banter.

I will follow any rule the adim team come up with, within reason..... But all I can say is that I can't wait to get on line with you fellow GTP'ers. MISS IT.

Why don't we go through the game together week by week.

My two pennies.

Thanks

Jonathan.

Hi Johathan.

We've been doing this since the release in the GTP Chat, keep an eye out for my room SA be nice to see you in there, been to long mate. 👍

Phillip.

 

[jimantonic]

Erm... Hate to be the one to break it to you but we're going to have to run another.

Looks like I have been mis-understood, I was simply stating my agreement with keeping/using the GTP tag, I'm well aware of the need to run a new qualifyer for the full game and am looking forward to running it and taking part in future WRS events.

 

[ClassicMini]

We need a track that is really hard to race clean, a track that is not too big, not 100% walled in my opinion, and a car that is really challenging to drive, like the MB SLR, Elise, RX-7 was a nice choise for gt5p. Also some tracks have really grown old, and feel less challenging since we drive them for 10 years.

Whatever the final decision, i would be glad to join!

 

[DrTrouserPlank]

Unless we get an unlock on the save, the decision to require people use their GTP accounts is unfortunate. Other than promotion of the site (which is fair enough I guess) it seems to penalise everyone who is an active member, but who doesn't use their GTP tag as their main account, and frankly who would be unless they had been on this site from the day they bought their PS3?

Transferring cars between accounts and dealing with certain tracks not being unlocked (therefore requiring repeated play-throughs of events to unlock said tracks) seems a bit of a strange obstacle to put in front of people in a league that encourages participation, but at the same time (like all leagues) relies on it's regulars to sustain it over time.

 

[lbsf1]

I have found a great combo.

The lupo cup car on the nurbgring nord. An easy car too drive but difficult too be fast, however most importintly its very enjoyable.

 

[tyl0r_r]

recruiting only becomes more difficult as time goes on because people will be reluctant to go through the process of unlocking tracks again and risking losing their cars in gifting - They have a savegame they invested a lot of time in already.

I didn't really think of that.. I was only thinking of people who are already here. That'd be a big problem with keeping the tag, but I still hope we can do it somehow.

 

[Mr_ANDERSON]

If there is no brand new tracks then I think the Nordschleife would be THE track of choice. Due to it's length and technicality the results would reward driving talent stronger!

If this is the case, then we can use the Nissan GT-R '07 & I could submit my time from this run.

 

[01GTP]

But for now, as much as I like the community of my GTP_ tag, I'm going to keep playing on my main account in large part because of my $40 of CE cars.

I started out on my main account but decided to go with my GTP account and all my stealth / chromline cars carried over.

I can confirm this.
I have a few accounts and tried another today.
The cars carried over and were in my garage upon startup.

I believe these accounts are on the same master account, if that matters.

 

[JeremiahFyffe]

I can confirm this.
I have a few accounts and tried another today.
The cars carried over and were in my garage upon startup.

I believe these accounts are on the same master account, if that matters.

I opened my GTP_EXE account yesterday and you are correct, all of my CE cars were there. That is a good thing! But it also only let me gift 1 car from my "main" account per day.

 

[folkboy]

hi guys!

i'm new to GTP and really looking forward to take part into WRS 👍


great job!

 

[Small_Fryz]

8 years and 2 Board challenge podiums and all of a sudden Small_Fryz doesnt cut it .

No point arguing though it seems.

For the record I don't disagree with the reasons, the main thing that makes me upset is the fact I cant transfer my game across. But I'll get over it.....

Do we have to make a whole new profile with our PS3's or just a new PSN?? Its been almost 4 years since I created my one and only profile and PSN, I have never tried to make more...

 

[Jump_Ace]

You just need to make a new PSN and register it with them yada yada. It will appear under your current name and it should only take a couple minutes. I for one can't wait to see you race at Monza Dion, you were straight up blazing in GT Legends.

EDIT: I'm also looking into a JFS (PS3 format) To Windows file recovery/transfer program to see about copying my GT5 game save. I don't expect much, but it's worth the ol' college try.

Jerome

 

[Small_Fryz]

Lets hope, that works then!

Cheers mate, Its been a very long time since I played GT. I think we should forget my past and just start from scratch , No pressure...

 

[LinPark]

Perused this thread - haven't searched the entire forum yet - is there a thread discussing the reasoning behind PD locking down the Game Saves? Just trying to comprehend the thought process that resulted in that brainchild.

And given all the technically gifted folks here, I honestly can't imagine it would be too difficult to take a game save and change the name inside of it to any name you choose. Forgive me if that would violate some software agreement, I just can't get my mind around the reason for such an odd decision. To me, that would be like Microsoft locking down your Word documents so that you couldn't share them.

 

[Egghead43]

I started GT5 with my GTP tag, I didn't even give it a second thought.

Looking forward to the next qualifier, hopefully I don't do as well as the last time though. I felt like I was at the back of the pack in a lot of the WRS races I did. Oh well, it is what it is, and someone has to be last

What about using a track from the track creator for the qualifier? I believe it is technically possible to share a created track. This would eliminate the track knowledge advantage that some people have from tracks that were in the previous GT games. Some people have 1000's of laps in on some tracks.
At least use a track that is new to GT5 to keep things fresh.

 

[dranddad]

Perused this thread - haven't searched the entire forum yet - is there a thread discussing the reasoning behind PD locking down the Game Saves? Just trying to comprehend the thought process that resulted in that brainchild.

And given all the technically gifted folks here, I honestly can't imagine it would be too difficult to take a game save and change the name inside of it to any name you choose. Forgive me if that would violate some software agreement, I just can't get my mind around the reason for such an odd decision. To me, that would be like Microsoft locking down your Word documents so that you couldn't share them.

I too can’t see the big deal behind all this, one has two accounts, I have two accounts so why not do the game twice (double the fun) as I’m going to do. You can have a competition with yourself by attacking the game differently; see if you can progress through the game in a better way.

Ok so it’s going to take longer, but how long is it going to be till we get the next instalment of GT, but maybe I’m missing something that will prevent me from having two accounts and doing the game twice.

Phillip.