GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 48 : Rotary Madness

[anastasis14]

Gonna give it some laps, when do you upshift the car exactly?

 

[EDK]

hehe if we are allowed i can try to explain the racing line i used, if that can help in any way

very good combo choice!

Yes, you can talk about your approach in any area of the track, even T3. Just don't say anything that might give away your T3 time or total time.

And thanks for your compliments of the combo.

Gonna give it some laps, when do you upshift the car exactly?

Wind it at least to the redline, I'm undecided as to whether waiting until limiter is faster. The rotaries like to stay wound up.

 

[millross]

How about the CORRECT thread this time!!

10.688
19.771

Close call in T1, same sort of thing as barra I'd suspect but it looked good to me from multiple angles so I'll put these up. T3 was fast but looked a bit sloppy in places so I am shocked it was so good. Another few runs left in me.

I had tonnes of 30.4s now and a couple of low ones but I am just ruining them like they're going out of fashion....fortunately they keep coming

 

[Cats_PJs]

10.627
19.795

Finally decent times to post. Was off a bit on t3 but still a small improvement. My total is much better than I thought was possible at start of the week.

 

[AspecBob]

Is it possible that the way to take the last corner depends on whether you want to minimize your T3 or want to maximize your speed at the line (i.e., setup a better T1)?

 

[Mr P]

Need some clarification here please guys? How far up this dirt bank without wall contact are we allowed to go?

The pics above are both from the same pause moment on different cameras and even a simple line like above kicks up a tonne of dust and looks very sloppy in the replay How extreme are people mounting that dirt bank and what is the allowance?

If its simply to keep 2 wheels behind the white line? then you can still fail by whalloping the rear right tyre hard against the dirt and it will show in the datalogger whilst not redding the lap
Thanks in advance 👍

btw yet to see a 10.5 let alone a .4 .611 is my best clean by my own standards

 

[millross]

On my best lap, I am at least another foot further right than you - to the point where I not only kick up dirt, but grass also - I got within 6 inches I'd say of the limit. The guy kneeling down on the right would have needed hospital treatment, basically.

The further over you are there though the less likely you are to have a fast(er) exit, my fastest T1's have been where I've nailed the inside apex and then rolled right up to the edge of the track on the outside.

 

[Energizerrr]

I follow the 2 wheels on tarmac rule as stated in the OP.

I know in theory how to do a .5 but my best T1 was .603 (which obv. got taken care of at the hairpin 👍).

 

[EDK]

Need some clarification here please guys? How far up this dirt bank without wall contact are we allowed to go?

Just keep 2 wheels on the hard stuff, Ron. Hitting that with the side of the tires is not contact, we've always allowed that at this track in this direction. (Going back to Prologue).

The white line doesn't matter, and I don't think you can run off there without hitting that fence/invisiwall/whatever it is.

FWIW, when I had a 10.6xx, I didn't run off as much there as I normally might. It's possible to carry a lot of speed without taking that wide line, and the wide line puts you at risk for contact entering the tunnel, as I'm sure you realize.

 

[millross]

I don't think you can run off there without hitting that fence/invisiwall/whatever it is.

I am pretty sure that you're correct and the same goes for the exit of the final turn, on the right-side - I don't believe you can put left-side wheels on the dirt there without it red-clocking. I've got SO close and gone over by centimetres a few times, it seems quite precise. It's nice when the game helps you stay within the rules

 

[Mr P]

Cheers Kev 👍 Thanks for clarification

Thanks to Millross and Energizer for the replies also! But I got it from the horses mouth now... so all good 👍 Cheers!

 

[Ali]

T1: 10.662
t2: 19.715

 

[Cats_PJs]

Thanks getting that cleared up guys. Makes me much better about my lap as well.

 

[millross]

This week is like Deja Vu - falling down the board at a rate of knots

 

[mike_gt3]

Is it possible that the way to take the last corner depends on whether you want to minimize your T3 or want to maximize your speed at the line (i.e., setup a better T1)?

It shouldnt affect it, i mostly hit 137kmh right at the starting line.


millross, what did you meant by the ''CORRECT'' thread?
good job on the T1 and its not an easy split, same for you zrodegreesklvn.

For the 1st split it was barely touching the sand at ,510 but i did for the ,493
about the same place in this pics.

I keep far left after the start line(i mean before entering the ''S'') in 4th gear, then
smoothly merge to the right(close to the grass/sand EDIT: you will probably need to reduce throttle slightly to really get closer to the right, forgot that..) and just before you will turn to left release the throttle but not all the way like 1/2 throttle.. depend the speed and angle..., i just slide the car steering to left, then i just control a mix of slide and throttle and steering...
It need to slide without drifting too much, you will notice a bump in the road while you go from right to left that help turning using the balance of the car...
Somehow the car will start drifting easily if you just give it a lot of steering.
If you are already a ,600 split i dont think what i just said really help... lol

(i think the trick is to not drifting it too soon, and not too agressive, i give it a decent amount of steering to get it to slide but then i let the car work itself getting really close to the inside right and when i know im clear and i will not touch the sand or wall i go full throttle... you still have to be full throttle before the sand...)

Then i keep as close to the tunnel wall as possible, you can lost like 2kmh if you are in middle of the road...

Then at around 197kmh i brake and downshift in 3rd, at tunnel exit keep right but not extreme right... its good if its done smoothly though...
Then i enter the curve by letting it slide smoothly to the outside of the curve , i brake hard at first then just reduce the brake pressure smoothly while giving more steering, try it, steer progressively, and when it will be too much the car will start to drift, you need to find the moment slightly before the car drift, it should be a mix of ''slow down/slide to limit'' without drifting.... dont keep the inside of the curve too soon, the car should get at like 4 feet from the outisde of the track then you can point the car in the right line smoothly with enought speed, sometime you may need to give more steering to get the right line exiting that corner, again find the limit before it start to drift... its a lot of trial and error still lol

Sorry for the huge text... lol
hope that can help anyone

 

[Energizerrr]

Great explanation Mike!

So you don't brake for T1, that's nice to know. 👍

 

[w-g-e]

Great explanation Mike!

So you don't brake for T1, that's nice to know. 👍

It's not possible for our humans...

 

[mike_gt3]

No i dont brake, just slightly reduce throttle entenring turning to right to keep it really on the right then i just steer enought quickly to make the rear slide but then backup and let it slide... if teh car slide to much turning to right it be worst when turning left , and i also use stock brake bias. I will try the brake bias when i cant improve wich should be very soon lol , will try a little more laps right now!

It's not possible for our humans...

Hehe, you are very fast Wes, im surprised you are not D1G

 

[millross]

millross, what did you meant by the ''CORRECT'' thread?

I posted my splits in the "$10 million Alfa" thread

Nice write up 👍

Edit: 0.172 seconds covers Ramon to Jon (3rd - 17th) - s'all about T3 more than ever

 

[w-g-e]

No i dont brake, teh car littteraly slow down/slide by itself just by the steering in that area , and i also use stock brake bias. I will try the brake bias when i cant improve wich should be very soon lol , will try a little more laps right now!



Hehe, you are very fast Wes, im surprised you are not D1G

Well, this tells all..

Fantastic splits.

 

[Shlagem]

Great explanation Mike!

So you don't brake for T1, that's nice to know. 👍

💡 Wow that is interesting to know! will give it a try!
wonderful explanation Mike 👍

 

[TrackBound7]

This will be my first week participating if I can get some time in tonight. I played around the other night just running a couple of laps to see how the save worked and looked. Not sure I did it right though. Lets say I run 10 laps in a row, and lap 7 was my best. When I hit save ghost replay, will it show me lap 7s information or lap 10?

 

[Energizerrr]

This will be my first week participating if I can get some time in tonight. I played around the other night just running a couple of laps to see how the save worked and looked. Not sure I did it right though. Lets say I run 10 laps in a row, and lap 7 was my best. When I hit save ghost replay, will it show me lap 7s information or lap 10?

Exactly.

💡 Wow that is interesting to know! will give it a try!
wonderful explanation Mike 👍

Mike is a crazy alien, had a go at this again - no way I am able to do T1 without braking.


New splits which may be my submission splits:
10.795
19.747

With a great T3 (0.2 faster than my previous best T3).
Used AS off, hence the horrible T1.

 

[EDK]

This will be my first week participating if I can get some time in tonight. I played around the other night just running a couple of laps to see how the save worked and looked. Not sure I did it right though. Lets say I run 10 laps in a row, and lap 7 was my best. When I hit save ghost replay, will it show me lap 7s information or lap 10?

When you save the ghost replay, the fast lap time is the one that shows on the screen when selecting the replay in the Replay Theater.

The time shown in the top right of the screen while viewing the replay is your PRIOR fast lap. The full lap time actually does flash on the screen momentarily at the very end of the replay before the lap restarts, but the easiest and most reliable way to capture the time is by looking at the replay in replay theater.

 

[Gravitron]

EDIT: Beaten by Kevin, but I'll leave it here in case you needed it drilled in twice as hard.

This will be my first week participating if I can get some time in tonight. I played around the other night just running a couple of laps to see how the save worked and looked. Not sure I did it right though. Lets say I run 10 laps in a row, and lap 7 was my best. When I hit save ghost replay, will it show me lap 7s information or lap 10?

That can be confusing. When you are viewing the best lap replay in Replay Theater, yes, you will see times on the screen that are from previous laps in that session. But in the lap detail view, as you compete each sector in the replay, the actual values for that in-progress lap will replace the old values. You won't see your final sector time or overall lap time anywhere, while viewing the replay this way, though. The overall time can only be seen before you hit Play in Replay Theater, and if you want to know T3, you do the subtraction (final time - T1 time - T2 time).

...OR... If you watch the replay right after doing the fast lap (while still in Arcade Mode), and fast-forward to the lap of interest, it's a little easier to see ALL sector times from that lap, as well as the overall time. Use that method to record the info, but then go look at your replay later in Replay Theater mode to double check for legality (because you most likely want to keep doing more laps in Arcade Mode while you're "feelin' it" ).

Does that help?

 

[mike_gt3]

i dont brake but i slow down just enought to get inside on the right before turning left quickly, but dont keep right too early as well or you will miss the next apex it make the car unstable... i wish i could find better words my english is kind of limited.

I noticed when i do sub ,550 1st split there not much delay between the right and left turn before the tunnel, i would compare it to a apline skiing move.... lol

I cant find the good way to run take the curve after T2...
i even hada ,150 gain at T2 and lost everything...

 

[Mr P]

Nice write up Mike 👍 I'm very inconsistent trying with no brake as I usually tickle it slightly... will keep trying

Done my first flip on GT5 with this combo a few mins ago I knew I shouldn't have tried using one of my bobs to find a faster line through to T1

Crazy game

 

[Duck]

i dont brake but i slow down just enought to get inside on the right before turning left quickly, but dont keep right too early as well or you will miss the next apex it make the car unstable... i wish i could find better words my english is kind of limited.

English or french spoken, when you say 'I don't brake' it's still alien language to me.... please understand

My second hour, now with a perfect car. Just need to pay more money to my right foot to fight turnin-in and turnin-out oversteer. Oversteer? Why I have to fight oversteer when all mates are struggling with understeer? I don't know
I'm in the 10.7x & 19.9 club. Just need more time to combine with T3.

T1: 10.963
T2: 20.047

I wasn't drunk, when driving, but my replay is with windscreen-wiper on. Pressed wrong button I guess: quiet hilarous if will be my submitted one

 

[mike_gt3]

Nothing says you cant drive on walls. nice pic!

Duck, my first language is french, i write better in english than i can speak though, but i still understand if its not too fast... lol

 

[Carlos Fandango]

I posted my splits in the "$10 million Alfa" thread

Nice write up 👍

Edit: 0.172 seconds covers Ramon to Jon (3rd - 17th) - s'all about T3 more than ever

Hey, I'm only 16th...for now. It's bad, but not that bad yet