GTP_WRS-Online Event 27 : All Hail Hans Hugenholtz - Jul 26 & 30

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Presents...

All Hail Hans Hugenholtz

An Online Race based on GT6 Week 27 Time Trial


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:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::

July 26th, 2014

Worldwide Weekend Time Slot
5:00 PM Eastern / 2:00 PM Pacific / 21:00 GMT / 7:00 AM AEST / Check Local


July 30th, 2014


European Time Slot
3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 19:00 GMT / Check Local



North American Time Slot
10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 2:00 AM GMT / Check Local




Spyker C8 Laviolette ’01@ Suzuka Circuit

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Stewards Notes: This week we're going back to the core of my introduction to GTPlanet, back in 2008 when Gran Turismo 5 Prologue launched. One of the popular tracks was Suzuka. Not everyone knows that the legendary Suzuka track was designed by a Dutchman, Hans Hugenholtz. This week, we're paying tribute to his accomplishment in another Dutch product we haven't driven before in WRS history: the Spyker C8 Laviolette. Enjoy!

:cheers:
Bart (AKA PASM)
 
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In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid (SEE Lounge Splits BELOW).


Register Here


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(tables will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)


Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!


Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
  • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (be sure to use the PSN that's listed in the registry)
  • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
  • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.
Registration Changes

If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.


Delaying or Restarting Race Start

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
  • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
  • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
  • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
  • Latecomers, even if you've registered
  • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
Lounge Splits **NEW**

A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
  1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
  2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
  3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
    • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
    • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
    • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
  4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
    • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
    • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
    • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
    • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.



Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.



Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.


These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

Goals of these rules?
  • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
  • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
  • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
  • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
  • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.

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Official Practice Times
  • NA: Ad-hoc - participants can start rooms
  • EU: Tuesdays @ 19:00 GMT | 3:00 PM Eastern | 12:00 PM Pacific
  • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time
Basic Settings
  • Room Mode: PQR = Practice, Qualify, Race
  • Room Privacy: Public
  • Entry: Type GTP WRS to identify yourself if you don't use a GTP tag
Room Settings
  • Room Comment: GTP_WRS Mazda is as Mazda Does
  • Room Type: Race for Real
  • Fixed Room Host: No
  • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge
  • Race Quality: Standard
  • Voice Chat Quality: Standard
Course Settings
  • Course: Suzuka Circuit
  • No. of Laps: 23 + 1 formation
  • Weather: 0%
  • Weather Changeability: Fixed
  • Surface Water at Race Start: 0%
  • Time:N/A
  • Time Progression:N/A
Qualifier Settings
  • Qualifier Format: Race Alone
  • Time Limit: 8 Mins
Race Settings
  • Hold Races Automatically: Disabled
  • Start Type: Staggered Formation Lap with Rolling Start (see below)
  • Grid Order: Fastest First
  • Boost: No
  • Penalty: None
  • Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption:Fast
  • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
  • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
  • Require Tire Type Change: Off
  • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
  • Visible Damage: Off
  • Mechanical Damage: Light
  • Slipstream Strength: Real
Car Selection Method
  • Car Selection Method: Garage
  • Car Filters: Filter by Make -> Manufacturers -> Spyker
  • PP Limit: 533 PP
  • Max Power Limit: 471 HP
  • Minimum Weight: 1070 kg
  • Drivetrain: MR
  • Tires: Sport Soft (SS)
  • Nitrous: Prohibited
  • Vehicle Tuning:PROHIBITED
    No Added Parts or Adjustments are Allowed, including added aero parts.
  • Custom Rims: Allowed
  • Oil change: Allowed
  • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed
Limit Driving Options
  • Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
  • Active Steering: Prohibited
  • Active Stability Management (ASM): Available / Optional
  • Driving Line: Available / Optional
  • Traction Control: Available / Optional
  • ABS: Available / Optional
  • Handbrake: Prohibited
Formation Lap




  • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
  • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
  • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
  • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
  • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
  • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
  • Speed limit on formation lap is 62 mph | 100 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
  • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
  • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
  • Start marker for Suzuka is the start/finish line.
  • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
  • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
  • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
  • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.
Track Boundary Guidelines
Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.
It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

General Guidelines:
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
  • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
  • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
Track Specific Guidelines:
  • Red and White rumbles and tarmac are track.
  • Do not cross the white pit-in and pit-out lines.


Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
  • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
  • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
  • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
  • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
  • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.
Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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I'm really interested in joining the races and I'd like to dip my toe in the water first. Couple o' questions:

1. Anyone object to participating in practices even if I haven't registered for race? I'd like to test my Internet connection and get a feel before doing the real thing;

2. Is it possible to run with the driving line on? I sometimes use it as a brake reference point and if it isn't on I may need to find new references (tho I guess practice would be useful for this).

Thanks in advance,
Stephen
 
I'm really interested in joining the races and I'd like to dip my toe in the water first. Couple o' questions:

1. Anyone object to participating in practices even if I haven't registered for race? I'd like to test my Internet connection and get a feel before doing the real thing;

2. Is it possible to run with the driving line on? I sometimes use it as a brake reference point and if it isn't on I may need to find new references (tho I guess practice would be useful for this).

Thanks in advance,
Stephen

I wouldn't know about question 1. More experienced racers might have a clearer answer, but no objection from me anyway.
Regarding question 2, it is possible, I use it sometimes in fact.
And now, for something completely different...Am I the only one who is a bit afraid about racing this machine at Suzuka? I'm having a hard time keeping it on the tarmac all alone, can only imagine crawling with traffic around me, a little like running while keeping the beer from falling from the tray...
 
I'm really interested in joining the races and I'd like to dip my toe in the water first. Couple o' questions:

1. Anyone object to participating in practices even if I haven't registered for race? I'd like to test my Internet connection and get a feel before doing the real thing;

2. Is it possible to run with the driving line on? I sometimes use it as a brake reference point and if it isn't on I may need to find new references (tho I guess practice would be useful for this).

Thanks in advance,
Stephen
It's absolutely recommended that you join as many practice sessions as it takes for you to feel comfortable on track around others, before going for the actual races. 👍
This would be one combo that I would really try to talk a first-timer out of, for the race, but would encourage practice sessions until I'm blue in the face. :crazy:

Yes, we allow the driving line. I used it all during our GT5 online races until around 2 months before GT6 released. At that point I convinced myself that I was making the switch to turn it off for good when GT6 came out. Now it can take me as many as 5 laps on a new combo to pick out brake markers, even on tracks that I know well. I would say use it for as long as it takes, but have that goal in mind to turn it off in the future, as it kind of becomes a crutch.

Welcome! :gtpflag:
 
Am I the only one who is a bit afraid about racing this machine at Suzuka? I'm having a hard time keeping it on the tarmac all alone, can only imagine crawling with traffic around me, a little like running while keeping the beer from falling from the tray...

I know I would be scared to do that:lol:
 
Just registered for the WW race and as reserve for the EU race because it's my dad's birthday and I don't know when he's celebrating it. It's most likely when the wheater is good we have A BBQ in the afternoon so then I will make it in time.

@alexamenos It will be A difficult race but just take it easy and don't force anything on track then you will be fine.
For myself I set the TC at 1 instead of the TC 0 that I use for the TT You loose a bit of speed but you will not spin that easily when you give just a bit to mouch throttle.

I just love this Combo @PASM even it's very hard to stay in control all the way. :nervous:
 
Thanks Johan, I am glad you like it.

I'll try to race tomorrow, but I don't know for sure if I'll be able to.
 
Well I have registered for this one but nothing is showing up, all boards are blank for me even after multiple refresh attempts. Going to be another tough one as home improvement projects have limited my driving time this week to the Wednesday race and that was it.
 
Well I have registered for this one but nothing is showing up, all boards are blank for me even after multiple refresh attempts. Going to be another tough one as home improvement projects have limited my driving time this week to the Wednesday race and that was it.
At the bottom it says last updated 7/23, I'll take a look...

EDIT: Fixed, something had gotten stuck on my end.
 
At one hour before race time the lobby number will be posted by one of the stewards. I may put one up earlier if I can. If you want to practice even earlier than that, you can open a practice room and others will probably join you.
 
I'll either race or watch (if watching is okay?) depending on what time my little girl goes to sleep. Haven't really tried this combo that much, so if I'm racing I'll stay out of your way
 
I'll be sitting out this week. I haven't had any time this week to practice, and I'll be putting my time instead on the Triple Mix race next weekend. Good racing everyone! :cheers:
 
Sorry I left. My daughter woke up and was crying. Probably gonna miss out on the trip mix too. Wife moved the daughters birthday party from friday to Saturday.
 
Hey guys (Both WRS and SNAIL)I thought I d let you all know that I will be going cold mike (not racing... except the occasional one off for fun) because I have developed a problem braking due to my... er... ah ...physical rearrangements from my USAF days. I am unable to brake properly consistently due to numbness in my left foot. This was exacerbated by the driving arrangement I am using...(see picture 2) and ... the 7 hours of stints in the 24 Hour Race probably sped up the onset. It came to a head in today's WRS race where due to my horrific braking I could not come within a second and a half of my times set earlier in the week and almost led to a rage retirement . I tried again tonight in the SPA 2 hour tonight and that sealed the deal. When left foot braking I kept getting the clutch pedal post and the brake pedal at the same time(I had removed the pedal itself just for this very reason) ...this led to some rather interesting racing lines :lol: Below is the current cobbled together rig..which a couple of you asked to see some time back.


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Offending neanderthal pedal rig


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I have ordered a driving cockpit from Bob Earle Racing (see below) which will allow me to drive long distances without the aforementioned problem. So I'll be back in a week or so...depending on the freight time from the San Francisco area. As you will note it has a proper heel rest just like my old Formula cars...getting into it will be..well ...amusing...just like getting into the real cars...stand in the seat and improvise from there!! P.S. Bob no longer makes these any more but he has some stashed away.

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I had a great race yesterday, qualified as 7th and could finish in 4th after almost 1 hour of hard work at the wheel from my Spyker C8.:scared:
Had a good battle with @Don Mejillone and until the last lap with @GTP_Patrick1 which ended at the 130R were he was caught out by braking with just one wheel on the grass. Sorry that that happend and just maybe I should have let you A bit more tarmac:confused:
I don't think we touched each other but it was very close and fun untill that moment.👍
@Gravitron congrats on the win and @MadMax and @GTP_JTV on the podium. CU next race. :gtpflag:
 
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Had a great race with only a couple mistakes. :) I was wracking my brain trying to decide between one stop and two stops and finally came to my senses and one-stopped at the end of race lap 10. Jon stayed out one lap longer and had problems with tires, which gave me a bit of breathing room. Both he and Pekka were cutting huge chunks out of my lead on the 2nd stint, so I'm glad it ended when it did. :sly:

Congrats to @MadMax and @jtv90069 for the podiums and the great racing! :cheers:

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I again went crazy with the camera:


The start
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My two mistakes - brand new tires and I decide to drift Spoon, and a little wide between Degners
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Lots of action with JTV
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Final lap - one more and Pekka probably would have had me
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Have switched from confirmed to reserve in last two races. Will race if solution to my woefully bad braking arrives in time
 

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