GTP_WRS Week 119 : Jamming ApricoTZ 2 Pulp

[tarnheld]

So many lines, so much track space...

BB 2/4

31.537
1:05.004

 

[msgt-sd]

30.957
1'03.974

Lost over a tenth in the final sector compared to my previous best lap, but still good for about a tenth faster at the line.

Got all excited when I saw this car on this track. Then I read the tire spec.

The car is so light that CS tires offer plenty of grip. I think you'll like it.

 

[Mr P]

Not sure I wanna post my update now after those above but I will anyway...

31.163
1'04.346

Wicked splits msgt 👍 I've yet to see a .0 at T1 let alone a .9

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Alright. Work network puked it's guts out. No phone or data so I can't really do my job so I called it a day.

On the advice of;

@Dragonwhisky I completely agree with you with driving on comforts. I absolutely hate it mostly (usually because I completely suck of course!!) as I spend too much time just focussed on trying to control the car and can't focus on lines, speed etc...however, the current combo is the complete opposite of almost everything I've run with Comfort tyres, shocking as that sounds...I did not expect the TZ2 on CS to be anything other than a slippery hell beast (especially when I saw it's default is race tyres) but it behaves like a cuddly lazy cat! I actually spent the entire session earlier wishing for less grippy tyres Periodically the back slides out but it's easy to correct...the ease with which it drives made me wonder if I had the completely wrong settings and/or car earlier as it didn't feel right. I would definitely recommend giving this one a try..you won't be disappointed

and

The car is so light that CS tires offer plenty of grip. I think you'll like it.

Imma run this TT.

Now, I know there's some reason for the prohibition but, I ran off the first ten laps with my clutch and h-gate, just because this car deserves to be run that way, and, it sounds glorious when skip shifting. Won't submit a lap with it but, I'll use the splits for comparison. So, without further adieu,

Best splits, not best lap;
31.887
1'05.637

Now for a stint or 2 with the flappy paddles.

By the way, yes CS tires are still well behaved here. Charlize is not going schizo on me. Yet. We'll see how she acts when I try to find where she will. I am encouraged by her current behavioral patterns however.

 

[Thematic]

About a dozen laps.

32.200
66.367

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Flappy paddle BB 5/5

31.641
65.341

 

[Dragonwhisky]

BB 3/7
31.225
64.642

Might have another tenth or two in me.

 

[Gadge]

31.917
1:05.567

 

[Serialf]

Looks like I am alone or one of a very few from the D3 kindergarten?

I think you are alone, yes. I'm in D3 Retirement Home

32.617
1.06.683

 

[BenMillard]

How come the timing screen gives wrong timings? Here are my splits, using the method from first message:

31.325
64.658

DS3 here, too. These splits put me 9th out of 22 so far and just about with the D1 drivers.

 

[PASM]

On my testing laps for this combo I was running 5/10 for brake balance.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

The split times displayed in the middle of the screen can, and usually are, off by up to 16/1000 of a second. The only time you can check it however is at the end of a lap. I've not seen it more than that 16/1000 off.

I don't know why but it's probably some deeply esoteric and incomprehensible explanation regarding the link to display timings and your finger or thumb.

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

Had another go.

31.226
1'04.526

 

[StigsTC]

I remember a GT that showed the splits in the replay, and has sector times to the x.000 in the live timing window.

Also I'm pretty done with the TT and any TT's with race cars and the god awful default settings. Cannot fathom the decision making that mandates the same pointlessly locked differential on every car to go with the same impossible camber angles including more than TWICE the amount of rear camber than front.
31.017
64.234
So much more time left out there, but its unobtainable due to a differential that forgot its job of facilitating 2 different speeds of wheel rotation.

 

[nursemorph]

I see that I was wrong about my initial pace and clearly people had not got up to speed, given I am sliding back down the leaderboard to my rightful place towards the bottom. Not sure if I'll run again as I don't see any time that I can find, even though I'm half a second off my ultimate pace, as I am not consistent or skilful enough to string the sectors together

 

[Gravitron]

Well... That got sour quickly.

Yes, we should probably allow more tuning, especially for racecars.

@StigsTC, are you running this one on DS3 or your new wheel?

I've not seen it more than that 16/1000 off.

I don't know why

60 fps means 1 every 0.01666sec. So every pause-point will be a multiple of that.

 

[StigsTC]

I'm running wheel for all WRS events in order to improve on it. Fetchy doesn't seem to recognise "G29" as a controller input when I tried however.
I just generally hate no tuning, the car demands what it needs and you either give it that or you go slowly. With tuning, the car still needs to be driven a certain way, but its a much more giving relationship in that you can get the car to give you more rear or front grip to facilitate your driving style into the way the car wants to be driven.

But that's just me. I'm not going to get you guys to change the way you run your program, as its been a very successful format for many years and no tuning events allow drivers to compare themselves in the exact same car as everyone else to gauge their skills knowing its ONLY the driver making the difference. If I don't like no tuning its my problem, and I'll just sit out those weeks. Apologies for bringing the mood of the whole thread down.
Good luck to the rest of you out there for this one, your patience proved stronger than my own.

Oh yeah for the record I meant the decision making at the PD office where somebody came up with those settings to be used as a default for most race cars - nothing aimed at the WRS mods.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I see that I was wrong about my initial pace and clearly people had not got up to speed, given I am sliding back down the leaderboard to my rightful place towards the bottom. Not sure if I'll run again as I don't see any time that I can find, even though I'm half a second off my ultimate pace, as I am not consistent or skilful enough to string the sectors together

Come on man, don't be a crack dealer. Give it another 40 laps and instead of trying to beat anything, just drive.

Yes, we should probably allow more tuning, especially for racecars.

Uh, no thanks. I can be more sour about tuning if it will help?

60 fps means 1 every 0.01666sec. So every pause-point will be a multiple of that.

Yer startin' ta sound like my wife, always ruining a perfectly good BS story when I told them to my kids.

 

[PASM]

I understand what you mean @StigsTC. It's a personal preference. I feel that this car has quite a good balance with the stock settings, wierdly. Because if you look at them you'd think they wouldn't work, but it does when you drive the car.

Since we have the tools, we have been running quite a lot of non-tuning events and that lowers the time required to run an event. It keeps a level playing field. But there will be tuning combos to come as well.

I honestly feel that the variety we get in the WRS has made me to the driver I am today. It was always my goal to be versatile and adaptable.

 

[Meister Fetz]

31.079
1'04.164

Yea, camber, toe and LSD are completely stupid on stock. Ignoring the fact that camber does not work at all in GT6 as it should. Tires stay static over the ground and adding camber means you'll never have the full tire on tarmac. Can only be used to increase oversteer/understeer if you can't get it done with other settings.

Still that's the combos that made me a better driver. The more I struggle to get it, the more I learn.

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

I think I'm getting the hang of it now

31.136
1'04.502

This lap is like a pretty lady with an ugly face. Everything is beautiful but that hairpin is really a turn off.

 

[StigsTC]

The car is fine until I try to do my usual thing where I get back to the throttle earlier and harder than 'normal' and the diff not unlocking just spins the outside rear and throws the car sideways/off the road. It's how I've driven for ages, and I've been able to make it work more often than not.

I was really frustrated as I had S1 and S2 at PB pace before it cracked sideways with the outside rear on fire exiting the chicane, which had been a really good line as well. It was looking like one of those golden laps where you put 3 fantastic sectors together and set a lap that's so close to optimal you'll not beat it ever. Just snapped after losing that after 5 hours of running.
Sorry again for flying off the handle in an inappropriate manner guys.

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

The car is fine until I try to do my usual thing where I get back to the throttle earlier and harder than 'normal' and the diff not unlocking just spins the outside rear and throws the car sideways/off the road. It's how I've driven for ages, and I've been able to make it work more often than not.

I was really frustrated as I had S1 and S2 at PB pace before it cracked sideways with the outside rear on fire exiting the chicane, which had been a really good line as well. It was looking like one of those golden laps where you put 3 fantastic sectors together and set a lap that's so close to optimal you'll not beat it ever. Just snapped after losing that after 5 hours of running.
Sorry again for flying off the handle in an inappropriate manner guys.

Sounds like you can use my "lady" I hope you have an plastic bag for that face though

 

[monkeywall]

31.353
1'04.553

Awful awful first corner which is good because I've seen a .1 in S1. BB 1/8

 

[schmues_hh]

Second run today. I have struggled with the break balance all the time. Now I'm stuck with BB 2/6. Set TC to 1 because otherwise the car swerves at the hairpin.

31.388
1'04.502

 

[GTP_randy]

Sounds like you can use my "lady" I hope you have an plastic bag for that face though

This hairpin(lady) is a double bagger, a bag for her head and yours just in case hers falls off... and I always used paper,you can see thru plastic.. 👍

 

[monkeywall]

This has cheered me up after last week think it's time to start running over the curbs

31.143
1'04.393

Still 1/8

car swerves at the hairpin.

Found, when you've got turned enough, coming off the brake and getting back on the power a little when or as the car does keeps it stable giving me a nice line to get the power fully on early. Taking it at a min of 69 kph on this lap but that was lucky normally 67 / 68 kph. Not sure if this will help, it works for me

 

[RS__96__oO]

Maaaaan, finally I've had enough money to buy that thing

31.029
1'04.129

Huge fun combo, basically I have to do the same lap, only that I have to do every corner faster BB 2/9

 

[roamer2629]

This hairpin(lady) is a double bagger, a bag for her head and yours just in case hers falls off... and I always used paper,you can see thru plastic.. 👍

Great, just great, now we are never gonna get a girl in here

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

Great, just great, now we are never gonna get a girl in here

Ah so cute, someone who does believe in fairytales