GTP_WRS Week 27 : All Hail Hans Hugenholtz

[Pringles947]

56.756
1:42.806

 

[EDK]

Just ran about 10 laps, then started crashing when I started pushing. Tough to keep this crazy thing in check.

57.032
1:43.466

Used BB 5/4, as front bias seemed prudent. It's very difficult to get the car pointed right for the hairpin and spoon braking zones, and it does not like to rotate at low speed, specifically in the hairpin and Casio triangle.

Having trouble hitting Degner 1 apex, and throttle on in second gear coming out of Degner 2, Spoon and Casio is a roll of the dice.

Nice combo, @PASM

 

[Tyler Utley]

my first go at the WRS

57.000
1:43.083

so different from the cars I'm used to driving, but a nice challenge.

 

[mr_lab_rat]

my first go at the WRS

57.000
1:43.083

so different from the cars I'm used to driving, but a nice challenge.

Wow, where are all these fast guys coming from?
Welcome

 

[EDK]

56.681
1:43.148

 

[LLOYDZELITE69]

Did about 20mins and got this

T1: 56.000
T2: 1:41.734

 

[GTP_Nail]

59.129
1:45.995
D4 heard from. Love it actually. Lots more to come.

 

[Allibubba99]

First splits!

57.469
1'44.235

 

[Gravitron]

Nice splits up already. 👍

I have none yet, I only have this.

 

[mr_lab_rat]

Ok, don't drive a GT300 car right before trying this combo

 

[GTP_Nail]

Ok, don't drive a GT300 car right before trying this combo

Or a Miata!!

 

[mr_lab_rat]

Or a Miata!!

LOL. You win, that must be worse.
Not a good session tonight. Shaved 2 tenths but I'm looking for way more than that.

 

[RoeszaGT]

Just FYI I like to share some history from Spyker.
The company started originally in 1880 as a coachbuilder and the most famous product they build was the Golden Carriage in 1898 for the Dutch royal family and it's still in use by them.
A year later the first car was build in wich thay used a Benz engine.
At the beginning of the 1st World War they started to produce Airplanes.
This is also why in the emblem on the front of car exists of a old fashioned wheel with a propellor across it.
Just take a closer look and you will see. Unfortunally they went bankrupped in 1922.

In 1999 Spyker Cars was founded and got the rights to use the old spyker logo.
The Spyker C8 Laviolette is named after the Belgian Joseph Valentin Laviolette who was one of the designers of the first models from the original Spyker company. The engine is supplied by Audi.

Want to know more just visit Wiki. @PASM thanks for this great Dutch combo

 

[Mattin]

My first GTP_WRS Just had a little hour or so in the Spyker.

57.253
1'43.653

 

[Eggstor]

Nice splits up already. 👍

I have none yet, I only have this.




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How did you get a pic of my first attempt?

 

[GranTurismo916]

This car is crazy. I can't control it.

 

[Thematic]

Saw a 1'45 T2 but braked at the wrong marker for Casio.

After you run few laps you will be surprised how friendly you can get with some of the curbs.

Well, must be a select few; was coasting up a hill and the curb on the right threw me. I caught it but that's pretty futile work in a tt.

 

[Eggstor]

I'm already well off the pace. Nightmares of the last GT5 edition are flashing through my brain.

58.356
1'45.189

It's the inconsistent sudden power-on oversteer and this track that's killing me, but mostly this track.

 

[Michelin]

I was able to find a tenth or two yesterday, but that was it. I went to bed wondering how to find time with it...

 

[EDK]

I'm already well off the pace. Nightmares of the last GT5 edition are flashing through my brain.

58.356
1'45.189

It's the inconsistent sudden power-on oversteer and this track that's killing me, but mostly this track.

Try short shifting to 3rd in the dicey sections.

 

[Eggstor]

Try short shifting to 3rd in the dicey sections.

I'm already leaving it in 3rd everywhere I think I can get away with it (S-curves, Anti-Bank curve and the first half of Spoon). I just need to be lighter on the throttle.

Anyway, I have new times that are a bit closer to competitive:

57.516
1'44.400

 

[EDK]

I'm already leaving it in 3rd everywhere I think I can get away with it (S-curves, Anti-Bank curve and the first half of Spoon). I just need to be lighter on the throttle.

Anyway, I have new times that are a bit closer to competitive:

57.516
1'44.400

What I mean is that coming out of Degner 2, Spoon, and Casio, try short shifting the car to 3rd maybe 1,000 RPM or so before you actually get to redline in 2nd. The snap oversteer is bad in 2nd gear, especially in those places. But it comes on much harder as you approach redline at full throttle, and you can counter that by short shifting, and the car has so much power and torque that you lose much less than you do with a moment of lost traction. Coming out of the first turn, I'm mainly using throttle control, and it's easier to modulate.

I'm sometimes using first to slow and rotate the car at the hairpin, but back into 2nd for corner exit, on the throttle in 1st gear is suicide.

 

[roamer2629]

What I mean is that coming out of Degner 2, Spoon, and Casio, try short shifting the car to 3rd maybe 1,000 RPM or so before you actually get to redline in 2nd. The snap oversteer is bad in 2nd gear, especially in those places. But it comes on much harder as you approach redline at full throttle, and you can counter that by short shifting, and the car has so much power and torque that you lose much less than you do with a moment of lost traction. Coming out of the first turn, I'm mainly using throttle control, and it's easier to modulate.

I'm sometimes using first to slow and rotate the car at the hairpin, but back into 2nd for corner exit, on the throttle in 1st gear is suicide.

Particularly effective coming out of the last corner into the main straight. I'm letting the car go left with little steering and shortshifting to 3rd and it seems to be working...

 

[Eggstor]

What I mean is that coming out of Degner 2, Spoon, and Casio, try short shifting the car to 3rd maybe 1,000 RPM or so before you actually get to redline in 2nd. The snap oversteer is bad in 2nd gear, especially in those places. But it comes on much harder as you approach redline at full throttle, and you can counter that by short shifting, and the car has so much power and torque that you lose much less than you do with a moment of lost traction. Coming out of the first turn, I'm mainly using throttle control, and it's easier to modulate.

I'm sometimes using first to slow and rotate the car at the hairpin, but back into 2nd for corner exit, on the throttle in 1st gear is suicide.

I'll try that, though I think I've learned how to modulate the throttle.

I'm thinking Jeremy Clarkson was off by a hundred horsepower when he said in the first half of Top Gear's Perfect Road Trip that once power gets above 500-550 hp, one actually drives the car slower.

 

[Thematic]

Coming out of Casio the car behaves predictably for me. This is pre-lap though. First gear to the halfway point in the chicane, full on second, car rotates slightly to the right so I keep the wheel in neutral, upshift at redline.

 

[EDK]

Coming out of Casio the car behaves predictably for me. This is pre-lap though. First gear to the halfway point in the chicane, full on second, car rotates slightly to the right so I keep the wheel in neutral, upshift at redline.

You are waiting too long to go full throttle.

 

[Mini Stiggy]

New splits:

55.949
1:41.549

I was over a tenth up on my previous best lap at T2, but broke too late for the chicane.

 

[GTP_Jonjig]

3 laps then gave up with the heat...

57.283
1.43.517

 

[alexamenos]

My first almost completely sober splits:

58.283
1'44.733

I don't have a clue for brake reference points going into the hairpin, or the Spoon curve, or even for the chicane. I also have no idea why I'm sometimes faster through the S's than others, and more to the point I suck throughout T1.

I can either crawl slowly out of the spoon curve and onto the back stretch, or I can lose it. Generally speaking that describes all of my laps -- I'm either really really slow or at some point the car is facing the wrong damn direction.

So far so good I suppose.

 

[Mini Stiggy]

My first almost completely sober splits:

58.283
1'44.733

I don't have a clue for brake reference points going into the hairpin, or the Spoon curve, or even for the chicane. I also have no idea why I'm sometimes faster through the S's than others, and more to the point I suck throughout T1.

I can either crawl slowly out of the spoon curve and onto the back stretch, or I can lose it. Generally speaking that describes all of my laps -- I'm either really really slow or at some point the car is facing the wrong damn direction.

So far so good I suppose.

For the hairpin, I go half throttle when the rumble strip on the right starts, and start braking around when it ends. I don't have an actual marker for Spoon. And for the chicane, I brake around when the yellow line starts on the right.