GTPlanet Tandem H2H Drift Tournament #2 </Ivan vs Uberlight replay uploaded\>

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That simply wont work. Unfortunately, as me and Chris discovered earlier, reolays are apparently linked to accounts. Chris sent me the replays from tournament one. I downloaded them put them on a USB, copied them onto my PS3, made sure they copied to the GT5 save data file (they did), went on the game, went into replay theatre and....

Nothing ::tdown:No replays got copied over at all. To me this means that the replays are in fact part of the main game save, and the part we can send to each other is useless (probably just information on when it was last updated) and unreadable, even to a PS3. If someone has done it successfully please post *listens to silence*

I have no problem with judging all the runs individually, but do some maths for me mate.
There are 48 people entered so far. Lets say that 20% don't show up to qualifying. Of the 80% that do, each have two runs, taking two minutes each. Now for the (not)fun bit
(20 x 100) / 48 = 41.6 people
42 x 2 x 2 = 168 minutes of footage
168 / 60 =2.8 hours of footage
= 2 hours and 50 minutes of footage.
=2.50-4
=2 hours and 46 minutes if i don't judge myself

I may enjoy GT5 & drifting, but seriously dude, this is unrealistic

(lol if i stuffed up somewhere and look like a fool...)
 
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MrDinosaw94
That simply wont work. Unfortunately, as me and Chris discovered earlier, reolays are apparently linked to accounts. Chris sent me the replays from tournament one. I downloaded them put them on a USB, copied them onto my PS3, made sure they copied to the GT5 save data file (they did), went on the game, went into replay theatre and....

Nothing ::tdown:No replays got copied over at all. To me this means that the replays are in fact part of the main game save, and the part we can send to each other is useless (probably just information on when it was last updated) and unreadable, even to a PS3. If someone has done it successfully please post *listens to silence*
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I have dont it lol
First the guy who wants to send the replay should export the replay data from GT5's replay theater, then copies the replay file from PS3 saved data ulitiliy to his USB memory stick. The replay will be a folder in his "PS3/SAVEDATA" folder on the USB stick.
He takes the folder adds it to an archive (.zip or .rar or etc...) then sends it to you.
You receive the .zip file lets say, unzip it to the USB stick in the PS3/SAVEDATA folder, When you put the USB stick in the PS3 u copy the replay from the USB to the PS3 savedata from the SAVED DATA UTILITY. After this u need to import the replay to the GT5's replay theater ( a small circular icon to the left looks like this : ->]
And VOILA!

MrDinosaw94
I have no problem with judging all the runs individually, but do some maths for me mate.
There are 48 people entered so far. Lets say that 20% don't show up to qualifying. Of the 80% that do, each have two runs, taking two minutes each. Now for the (not)fun bit
(20 x 100) / 48 = 41.6 people
42 x 2 x 2 = 168 minutes of footage
168 / 60 =2.8 hours of footage
= 2 hours and 50 minutes of footage.
=2.50-4
=2 hours and 46 minutes if i don't judge myself

I may enjoy GT5 & drifting, but seriously dude, this is unrealistic

(lol if i stuffed up somewhere and look like a fool...)
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Its not 168 minutes, its 84 minutes since only the best run of each guy is sent not both , it really not hard to choose the best one...

I know it takes time ... organizing always does, to be fair and realistic qualifiying should be done to choose the best.
That is done in either way of these two:
1) 48 runs in total ,each run is given a score (as i described in my previous post)
or
2) each entrants should have a tandem go with all other 47 entrants from the start, one on one
that is 48x47 = 2256 total runs ... and then add the scores of each entrant through all his runs
The top 16 total scores advance ....

what do u think ?
 
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Aha, so I have to import it 👍, you proved me wrong (didn't know there was an import button in the replay theater), each drifter having 47 battles is, no offense meant, but it's just silly. Organising this would be an utter nightmare and Driving 47 laps of Indy the track would make people bored of it and kil the fun of the tournament Imo. But your rigt, it would be accurate 👍
Glad to see I got the maths right, but even 84 minutes + import time of each + loading time of each is still a long time. When's the last time you sat down for over an hour and a half, to watch something repetitive. I love drifting and Indy, but dude it's a bit much... And I get bored pretty quickly, after about the 20th drifter, I think I would be out of consciousness. I like how you brought maths into your post too, good to see the high intellect of the GTP drifting community 👍
 
THanks, i'm a engineer so ...
I know it takes time and we should all give you a BIG THANKS for organizing these stuff anyway :D and i think a prize should be given to you @ the the end , i'll be more than happy to send u a car or something bro ;)
 
Thanks mate, my pleasure. As long as everyone is having fun I'm happy to put in some of my spare time... It's a lot more constructive then what other people do in there spare time

I'm pretty much set for cars and stuff myself mate, but you can send me something to use as a prize if you want. I find it cool that SAi, Keisu and FRAG have all forgotten that there is a prize at all for 1st, 2nd and 3rd... none have sent me into on what they want yet lol,
I would like to include some kind of "luck of the draw" gift for some random who qualified (or not) in a random position... Just to spread the love in the GTp drifting community ;)
 
Yeah I'd like to participate in this if it's not too late to sign up. Sounds like fun.

first name Steve
psn LR-L2L-iSlide
team LR-L2L (leader of Lock2Lock of the Legit Racing League)
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The same idea as tournament #1. one track for the whole of tournament #2 which had already been confirmed as indy, so no more voting guys!
 
the_kingb_
In D1 the judges watch all runs each judge takes notes and then after all runs are done they discuss it for the final list of the winners to the next round.
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No they don't, they do the same thing every other series in the world does, they announce the score as soon as each run is finished. Where on earth did you get that idea?


There is only one way this will ever be fair, and that is if ONE judge does ALL the judging. It's the only wy to do it that won't have people moaning.
 
TwinturboCH
There is only one way this will ever be fair, and that is if ONE judge does ALL the judging. It's the only wy to do it that won't have people moaning.
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Yhea this is what i've mentioned before, the only other way would be to scrap qualifying and do a HUGE tournament style similar to #1, wich would be insane.
 
MrDinosaw94
I have no problem with judging all the runs individually, but do some maths for me mate.
There are 48 people entered so far. Lets say that 20% don't show up to qualifying. Of the 80% that do, each have two runs, taking two minutes each. Now for the (not)fun bit
(20 x 100) / 48 = 41.6 people
42 x 2 x 2 = 168 minutes of footage
168 / 60 =2.8 hours of footage
= 2 hours and 50 minutes of footage.
=2.50-4
=2 hours and 46 minutes if i don't judge myself

I may enjoy GT5 & drifting, but seriously dude, this is unrealistic

(lol if i stuffed up somewhere and look like a fool...)
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When well organised, a run can take as little as a minute. However, you are correct, Judging is LONG, no doubt. Why do you think I get PAID to jduge in Poland/Holland/UK etc. To judge qualifying you are looking at between 30 and 60 drivers with THREE runs each. Usually looking at 3 hours PLUS of solid drifting (once you account for mechanical holdups and stopping for cars in gravel traps etc) and that's JUST qualifying. Top 16 takes another hour and a half, but if you actually run it as Top 32, you are looking at a total of three hours for the battles. That's SIX hours of sitting there subjectively deconstructing every drift run you see. It's NOT an easy job.
 
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TwinturboCH
No they don't, they do the same thing every other series in the world does, they announce the score as soon as each run is finished. Where on earth did you get that idea?


There is only one way this will ever be fair, and that is if ONE judge does ALL the judging. It's the only wy to do it that won't have people moaning.
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well i saw many videos of the Series and i always see them watch all the runs ... then when all are done they announce the top 16 ... if u r a judge how do u judge a qualifiying ? u set a score for the first run and then compare the next ones to it ? the better ones get a higher score and the worse get less ? for example if the the score is over 20 , the first gets a 10/20 and second one gets for example 15/20 if it is alot better ?? or 5/20 if alot worse ? and u keep comparing the next ones to these to ?
what i mean to say is score should descibe the difference .. its not an exam that all the ones doing it can get 20/20 ... only the best one gets 20 and others get less...
 
the_kingb_
well i saw many videos of the Series and i always see them watch all the runs ... then when all are done they announce the top 16 ...
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They 'announce' the Top 16 at the end, but scores are given after each and every run, so in fact you can work out the qualifying order yourself before the anouncement is even made. It's just done because most people don't sit there and keep track of all scores etc. Like F1, the times are always available during qualifying, but no-one bothers to work out the order until afterwards :)


the_kingb_
if u r a judge how do u judge a qualifiying ? u set a score for the first run and then compare the next ones to it ? the better ones get a higher score and the worse get less ? for example if the the score is over 20 , the first gets a 10/20 and second one gets for example 15/20 if it is alot better ?? or 5/20 if alot worse ? and u keep comparing the next ones to these to ?
what i mean to say is score should descibe the difference .. its not an exam that all the ones doing it can get 20/20 ... only the best one gets 20 and others get less...
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It's very easy for top level pro comps. We have to sit there and watch ALL practice sessions (usually something like 3 hours+) and we say that the BEST run we see in practice is the 'benchmark' giving a score of something like 90 (if the level is VERY high, maybe 95) and then everything in qualifying is judged from that :)
 
TwinturboCH
They 'announce' the Top 16 at the end, but scores are given after each and every run, so in fact you can work out the qualifying order yourself before the anouncement is even made. It's just done because most people don't sit there and keep track of all scores etc. Like F1, the times are always available during qualifying, but no-one bothers to work out the order until afterwards :)



It's very easy for top level pro comps. We have to sit there and watch ALL practice sessions (usually something like 3 hours+) and we say that the BEST run we see in practice is the 'benchmark' giving a score of something like 90 (if the level is VERY high, maybe 95) and then everything in qualifying is judged from that :)
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The benchmark cleared it for me thanks.
umm 95/100 ? thats a good idea ... but we dont have a practice session here to benchmark a run ... and we cant all be in a practice session. I think some one should post a video of a run to be considered as benchmark, a judge maybe ?
 
the_kingb_
The benchmark cleared it for me thanks.
umm 95/100 ? thats a good idea ... but we dont have a practice session here to benchmark a run ... and we cant all be in a practice session. I think some one should post a video of a run to be considered as benchmark, a judge maybe ?
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Or maybe make it the job of the winner of the previous tournament ;) *cough* SAi *cough* LOL
 
I have a question about qualifiers do we get time to warm up or do we just jump in do 2 laps and take off. Are we gonna wait for x amount of contestants then start and should we book in for a time we know we are availible so you know who to expect for that session.
 
Booking in isn't necessary, as anyone can rock up to any qualifier to do there runs. If you want practice, i'm afraid you'll have to do it in another online room.

@TTCH & kingb, I know you guys are out to make the competition fair etc, etc. But one judge either rocking up and judging every single qualifier or remotely watching them afterwards is not really an option IMO. I know what good drifting is, but as i said previously after a while it would all fade to grey & even the best judge in the world would alter their scores as the runs g on (due to boredom making the runs feel less special)

How does this idea suit everybody? I post up three runs, one bad, one average and i'll use SAi's practice run too. Each judge will asses these runs with the scoring system. Then one of our maths heads can figure out what percentage of harshness each judge scores with. THis gives a consistent reading from that judge throughout the tournament, and we can have multiple different judges and my original score submitting idea would work.

While this isn't ideal, it is one of the only realistic ways to judge this.. opinions please!
 
Congratulations to CHYEA_B0L 0=zero for being our 50th (yes 50th!!!!) entrant. Good luck to all participating
 
BRAINWAVE!!!!!!

:gtplanet: Team Eliminator drift competition.
This is my newest idea, and as people in the H2H know, my ideas usually mean a lot of work for me. I have noticed that an increasing number of teams have been not only popping up, but popping up looking for others to battle. A few of these guys have done it of their own accord (props to <ACN> & nemesis for getting the ball rolling) But still their is nearly 20 teams on GT Planet, some don't have any members, some are not interested in competition, but some are serious about drifting and are ready too show their skill.

You may know that i am quiet busy right now with the H2H, and with qualifying less then 48 hours away it will only get worse, but once that is out of the way i will jump into seriously organising this. It will be a lot less work then the H2H as qualifying will not be necessary, Teams can enter a judge each so i don't need to do that and people can send me replay's and scores so i don't need to be there. This means i can put most of my concentration on making sure that T2 of the H2H runs smoothly while round 1 of the Team drift tournament runs of it's own accord.

By this point you are probably thinking "this guy must have alot of time on his hands, to try to organise 51 drifters and a whole new invention of his at the same time." truth is, i don't. I play two sports and spend all day at school. However this is something that is seriously lacking around here, organised team battles

So now your'e wondering "aha, probably didn't really need to know that... I wonder how the battles will be ran and scored..." well this is where i'm getting creative.
Two teams are out at once. Lets say team blue is battling team red. Team blue's 1st member leads the pack, team red's 1st member chases him, team blue's 2nd chases team red's first and team red's 2nd will chase team blue's 2nd. This pattern would continue until both teams have exhausted its members. It would make fore some amazing video and would really bring out every members tandem skill.

As this tournament has chosen battle teams representing their main team, Skill level will be high. if a spin out occurs, that member must stay out. If a member hits another, The person who caused the crash will sit out while the other battlers wait for the guy who was hit to rejoin the pack. As a drifter watches his fellow team members make mistakes, the pressure will intensify. After 5 minutes of nonstop hardcore drifting the team with the most members left will take the win. However, if someone is slowing the pack behind him down (resulting in a pack split) he will be sent to the back.
If someone isn't drifting or falls to far back he will be eliminated. Overtaking IS permited, as it will heat up the competition. But if a crash between the overtaker and overtakee (word?) the overtaker will be blamed and thus eliminated. I'm not sure on the amount of members per team etc. But i think the fine details can be worked out at a later date.

As i said earlier this is just a brainwave, but after H2H qualifying dies down i will open a thread and get serious about this team eliminator tournament. If this seems complicated or plain dumb, feel free to post

guy's what do you think? i reckon this will make for some thrilling drifting.
 
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Great idea, sounds like heaps of fun, but only difficulty I see is 5 members from one side of country and 5 from other in one room may cause some lag.
It may be difficult to tandem smoothly if lag is present, otherwise I think one of the best ideas, and would it be a comp where there is one team that wins the most battles??
 
Great Idea, i would love to do something like that!
But my internet sucks and its a bit laggy when only 1 person is drifting with me in the room :P how about when 2 teams are in!:S :P
 
We can try it, just say 5 vs 5, if too laggy then reduce teams by 1, and repeat. It's still got to be decided how many people from each team will compete so there is flexibility
 
I'll be doing my qualifying run either tomorrow (Friday) at 9pm GMT or Saturday at 8am GMT as I'm away from Saturday morning for a week. Who will I need to add to do this?

Also, I'm not sure if you'd like someone else to do the maths as I'll be away from computers till the 19th Feb. If you can wait 6 days though I'm still up for it! :D
 
RufusGonePunk
I'll be doing my qualifying run either tomorrow (Friday) at 9pm GMT or Saturday at 8am GMT as I'm away from Saturday morning for a week. Who will I need to add to do this?
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I would also like to know this. Since I'll be busy Saturday and Sunday, Seems that tomorrow might be the best day for me to do my qualifier run
 

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