(GTTCC-7) | GT Touring Car Championship S7 - Danny, Starscream Entrprises, ares and Honda win!Finished
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also you know druids is a 50MPH or so turn anyway? So yeah 20/30 in an accident is pretty legit
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I wonder when we will get an Ide/10?
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Quick questionPlot twist... John is actually Ben in disguise?!
Edit: Oh wait, Ben was actually quick.
Filo mentioned about he pens being too much. 40bhp may seem a lot but it's best to remember that those around you will be on a drop as well, and you'll still be quicker than the back markers
Also, the leader has more pens to shuffle the race up more
To be honest I feel the pens worked better then ever. They allowed 3 varied races with different points.
Opinions though? And please no 'yes filo needs more' lol what did people think?
I had no penalty, then two races with the penalty for 4th position. I was able to keep my lead against most people, and didn't really fall too far behind the people I was following unless I made a mistake. Not sure I was in the best position to judge them though.
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The Honda feels a different car with it, I was fighting like mad race 2 but had understeer
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With regards to the race today, yes, the pens worked well. I honestly couldn't feel anything different with the Nissan, although it might just be me clocking slower lap times compared to the rest of the top 5. It'll be interesting how the field can get shuffled in Nurb though, with its long main and back straights really affecting cars with pens.
I think the pens are good enough as is, not unless someone with max pens gets passed by 5 cars on the straights alone, but we really have no way to determine that right now.
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but when the top drivers are 0.3 apart 40bhp cost me 0.6 an i was racing no one 5 seconds behind someone 5 seconds ahead of someone. if there wasn't such a gap between certain positions that would be fine. even if it's:
me and @DannyB013 wouldn't have had such an awesome R3 if i had got 5th R2
0.6 from a 45 sec lap means at nurb you'd be 1.4 seconds slower
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me and @DannyB013 wouldn't have had such an awesome R3 if i had got 5th R2
0.6 from a 45 sec lap means at nurb you'd be 1.4 seconds slower
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@CrazyJohn... All trolling aside...
I deemed it safe and reasonable in Race 2 to slow the pace down so that a driver experiencing a blip could recover his position. In my experience, maintaining pace while a car tries to catch up often means that either they struggle to get back to their spot without taking unnecessary pace, or being left behind...
When I have led any formation laps in other series' I often refer to the map and judge my speed on how spaced out the field is... If I think, as the leading car, that we're leaving cars behind a tad too often I will slow slightly and bunch us up until where all back together in a nice line on my map and then ease back up to the correct speed.
Why do I say this? Its simple, the rest of the field has to be aware and comply... Every car on track at the time I bunched up saw that Delta had gone out of position, either physically, or by his name falling back through the list of positions, or noticing a stray pointer on the map radar... Every car acted in kind to the change in pace and understood the reason... Except one. You. How you managed to bump someone when 12 cars around you all complied to my slowing of pace points to an obvious lack of attention...
All I would like to say to you is this: We just feel that we need a little more awareness from you is all. If you're happy to take that on board and build upon it, then there's no reason why we need to speak any more on the incident regarding the formation lap in Race 2.
Would you say that was a fair comment?
I deemed it safe and reasonable in Race 2 to slow the pace down so that a driver experiencing a blip could recover his position. In my experience, maintaining pace while a car tries to catch up often means that either they struggle to get back to their spot without taking unnecessary pace, or being left behind...
When I have led any formation laps in other series' I often refer to the map and judge my speed on how spaced out the field is... If I think, as the leading car, that we're leaving cars behind a tad too often I will slow slightly and bunch us up until where all back together in a nice line on my map and then ease back up to the correct speed.
Why do I say this? Its simple, the rest of the field has to be aware and comply... Every car on track at the time I bunched up saw that Delta had gone out of position, either physically, or by his name falling back through the list of positions, or noticing a stray pointer on the map radar... Every car acted in kind to the change in pace and understood the reason... Except one. You. How you managed to bump someone when 12 cars around you all complied to my slowing of pace points to an obvious lack of attention...
All I would like to say to you is this: We just feel that we need a little more awareness from you is all. If you're happy to take that on board and build upon it, then there's no reason why we need to speak any more on the incident regarding the formation lap in Race 2.
Would you say that was a fair comment?
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That's massively low
I feel it's fine as is if lead wants to drip it down a percentage or 2, okay but honestly I felt it did what it was meant to do, shuffle the grid up.
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as formation laps are now, it just kills the momentum of the race. it would be better if its double file and everyone is as close to the car in front as possible, only going when the leader goes
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because no one is fast enough to even maintain a gap to the cars ahead
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The pens seemed to work well, at 3rd place I was only a few tenths slower plus it's mixes the grid up as it's meant to.
I agree starts need to be the main focus now, there was a huge gap by end of lap 1. Ideally I'd prefer standing starts but will test it out.
I agree starts need to be the main focus now, there was a huge gap by end of lap 1. Ideally I'd prefer standing starts but will test it out.
I'm not sure, Danny managed to do well, and I lost a few tenths to star but nothing more than would be expected. Plus with close pack racing and touring cars, it's about maximising your weekend and not just having the same winners.
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i thought the aim of the pens were to keep everyone as close together as possible.
for R2 i qualified 0.7 off of the leader in 9th.
with the next grouping 7th to 4th 0.4 off of 1st
had it been
you would have had 9 people within 4 tenths
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It's more than that so no it will never drop to that.
Storm, a title contender had no pens. Last season they didn't affect much, now they are. Instead of having 3 great races people can have 2 amazing races and 1 okay one, which balances everything out, that's the Intention fighting with what you have. Qualy is usually quite spread out and the races were due to he starts. A normal start you will be I the pack so doesn't affect you as much.
If storm had a power pen he wouldn't be that far ahead, slower drivers with a pen like that would be dead last
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So at the moment the gap is something like:
2%-4%-7%-9%-12%
FILO is proposing:
1%-2%-3%-4%-5%
Can I throw in a third and fourth?
1%-3%-5%-7%-9%
1%-2%-3%-5%-8%
2%-4%-7%-9%-12%
FILO is proposing:
1%-2%-3%-4%-5%
Can I throw in a third and fourth?
1%-3%-5%-7%-9%
1%-2%-3%-5%-8%
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I'm happy to drop them down slightly but not to 5 4 3 2 1
The aim is to mix it up rather than it not affecting the race. Those percentages you proposed will do nothing and we'll end up with triple podiums again
The aim is to mix it up rather than it not affecting the race. Those percentages you proposed will do nothing and we'll end up with triple podiums again
that's more the value I'd lower it to by I thought it was fine as is. Good that we see different winners and podium drivers
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but then you're just making it so it's best only if you finish in certain positions - like right now - R1 1st battle - R2 5th no battles - R3 easy win
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in the OP it states
1st : -10%
2nd : -8%
3rd : -6%
4th : -4%
5th : -2%
1st : -10%
2nd : -8%
3rd : -6%
4th : -4%
5th : -2%
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But with less power and winning every race that defeats he object of touring cat and varied racing. 2 wins and a 6th is considered an excellent event. That one event allows others to get some points back, and people at the front with pens aren't exactly finishing last.
Others didn't seem to struggle, and I thought they did a good job of mixing the results. I'll look at dropping them a bit but I'm not doing it so people can get 3 podiums each race, it defeats the purpose of it then. If it was to close things up, we'd award pens based on driver talent as well. Instead it keeps the points championship close.
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There are about 10 of us who get strong points despite pens, and I'm happy to lower it so those outside top 5 don't smash it, but no if you get a podium you should have to work hard to get another on let alone 3.
