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What great fast SSHD is cheap price! Omg!
What great fast SSHD is cheap price! Omg!
HDD Vs SSHD - Full Test Load!
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Yep, with SSD and the PSstore version the game runs really nice and fast, menu feels fast and responsive and loading times are not annoying at all, GT5 disc was a pain in camparison.
Only thing i hate is the auto-replay after race, it's annoying if you do setup work and restart often.
And you have to abort the replay anyway and start it again to have full options.
Only thing i hate is the auto-replay after race, it's annoying if you do setup work and restart often.
And you have to abort the replay anyway and start it again to have full options.
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Can somebody compare Disc Version of the game vs full Download version?
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So it's 20-30% faster. That's actually not bad, although I was once told on this forum that "20% is nothing".
It doesn't say whether this is the download or BluRay version, though.
However, given the level of caching the game uses (~ 9 Gib, that Seagate SSHD only has 8Gib of flash), there should still be some speed up. If the video shows the disc version, then the download should be slightly better again.
It doesn't say whether this is the download or BluRay version, though.
However, given the level of caching the game uses (~ 9 Gib, that Seagate SSHD only has 8Gib of flash), there should still be some speed up. If the video shows the disc version, then the download should be slightly better again.
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- z06fun
If they gave a download code with the disk you would then technically have 3 copies of the game, or be able to run it on 3 PS3's at least. What they need to do is offer an option to fully install the whole game off the blu ray, and have it just check periodically that the disk is still in the machine when you are using the game. Then you could get the speed of the PSN version running fully off an SSD drive.
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From my understanding, SSHDD is a normal HDD with a small solid state partition and its up to the drive to decide what goes on the small solid state partition. Typically on a PC, this would be startup programs and parts of the OS. Unfortunately, anything NOT on the solid state partition loads at standard HDD speeds. I don't think this would provide much benefit in a PS3. Maybe I'm mistaken.
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This is a stupid question, but is there any noticeable difference in frame rate between the different disc drives?
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Not 100% sure but it looks like on Willow Spring GT was installing data in HDD screen where as SSHD it was already installed. I have a HDD and once installed I never have to wait like that in there or on any track really.
Also not all HDDs are equal and there is a chance that this old 80GB will not be as fast as a current 500GB model - both spinning at 5400 RPM.
I will clock mine and post here later.
Also not all HDDs are equal and there is a chance that this old 80GB will not be as fast as a current 500GB model - both spinning at 5400 RPM.
I will clock mine and post here later.
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No! my friend said: "I Did complete Installing date in HDD and SSHD! then tested. -.-"
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It works by caching. The first few times, it loads off the magnetic platters as usual, but as it goes it figures out which sectors are read more often, puts them into flash and reads them from there instead (updating both "stores" in the case of writes).
There's only 8 Gib of flash memory in that particular Seagate, but other drives have more (or less). So for a PC, what will happen is your core OS files will probably be cached, whilst on a PS3 whichever game you've been playing the most in some recent time frame will be cached.
It's not as fast as an SSD outright, and there is generally not enough flash memory such that swapping between different usage patterns in a short time frame (e.g. playing different games back-to-back) or just accessing lots of data (much more than 8Gib; several games) on a regular basis will cause it to under-perform, but no worse than the underlying HDD (which is guaranteed to be better than what comes with the consoles).
It's generally not a bad investment for a PC, and for a console it's OK if you tend to only play one game at a time and only if that game would benefit from faster streaming anyway (most are still bound by the BluRay).
Since a better hard-drive is a sound investment anyway, the small premium for a bit of flash caching isn't that much to pay given the relative benefit (for a game like GT6, or any HD installed game).
No idea how much those SSHD cost, but i would go for a small SSD.
80/120GB have become quite affordable, and if you use the PS3 mainly for gaming that should be enough space.
Think i have 40 free on my 120 with ~4 big games and a few smaller ones installed, and a few GB of pictures.
For Videos i use an external DLNA HDD.
80/120GB have become quite affordable, and if you use the PS3 mainly for gaming that should be enough space.
Think i have 40 free on my 120 with ~4 big games and a few smaller ones installed, and a few GB of pictures.
For Videos i use an external DLNA HDD.
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The trouble is the smaller-capacity SSDs aren't as good value as the larger ones, and they're still dearer than an SSHD, unless you get an older model or second-hand one (unadvisable, depending on the exact drive).
Obviously if you can afford an SSD, it is a better investment in the long run, but an SSHD is attractive purely for its price.
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I'd rather wait for SSD's to lower the price, when they become "mainstream", also, don't think it's worth to invest on an "old" PS3.
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That is ultimately the best plan. I was also wrong, prices have come down a bit again, and a 64 GiB SSD would be cheaper than any SSHD, and a 120 not much more. For a PC, that's a much better option.
You could go for the current sweet spot of 250 - 500 GiB, and just carry it over to whatever next-gen console you decide to buy.
NixxxoN
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Precisely a month ago my old HDD died I had to buy an SSD and I got a Barracuda 7200.14 which is really cheap (50€) and quite fast for being an HDD... For the moment I'll use it as boot disk and then in the future it will serve as storage and I will get an SSD.That is ultimately the best plan. I was also wrong, prices have come down a bit again, and a 64 GiB SSD would be cheaper than any SSHD, and a 120 not much more. For a PC, that's a much better option.
You could go for the current sweet spot of 250 - 500 GiB, and just carry it over to whatever next-gen console you decide to buy.
You can always keep em for a future brand new computer too, thats the great thing about them.
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- LeeWu-Tang
I currently have a 256GB Samsung 830 in my PS3.
I haven't played GT6 on a regular HDD yet, so I can't really make a comparison. I have only the disc version but it still loads lightning fast.
The only downside of having an SSD is that you have to leave your PS3 idle every once in a while to let the it do the garbage collection.
I haven't played GT6 on a regular HDD yet, so I can't really make a comparison. I have only the disc version but it still loads lightning fast.
The only downside of having an SSD is that you have to leave your PS3 idle every once in a while to let the it do the garbage collection.
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There shouldn't be.
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- z06fun
One thing to consider if you are going to get an SSD is possible future transfer of it to the PS4. Everything I have read for the PS4 says it requires a hard disk of at least 160Gb, and a good amount of that space is used by the OS even. So something like the common 240Gb size SSD might be the best choice for future extendability onto that console. You can usually find the 240Gb size for like $150 US.
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