HELP....RUF yellow bird handling

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driftking1212

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For a while Iv had the RUF yellow just sitting in my garge and i never really touched it until yesterday. I ran the car pretty hard on trial mountain and the car handles like crap....i have not done nothing to the car yet because im just about 2 sale the dam thing....the only thing its got going for it is the 400+hp that its pulling......somebody change my mind.....
 
This car really isn't one that you can tune problems out of. I suggest changing your driving style to suite it better. Drive as if it was the Ford GT and never fully let off the throttle in turns.
 
My personal opinion on this car is that you definitely shouldn't try to tune the "problems" out of the car. It drives *exactly* like the Yellowbird should, and if you learn to drive it properly you'll probably love it. It does take some practice, but that's part of the fun of the game, isn't it? I generally use the standard (in this case Sports) suspension and just lower it a little.

Google on the Ruf Yellowbird and you'll get some info on the real version of this amazing vehicle.

The general idea is to learn the rhythm of the vehicle. You need to allow the back to drift some around corners, then get back on the throttle. This is the way RR cars (and many MR cars to a lesser extent) drive. I love driving the Yellowbird on tight city courses.

For practice, try the Alpine 1600s, an RR car with much less power but similar handling characteristics. With less power and speed the Alpine is easier to control and then you can move up to the Yellowbird.

Finally, if you aren't using the DFP for a wheel, you might want to give up on the Yellowbird. I started with a different wheel, and couldn't control the Yellowbird at all, which I thought strange considering I have many years experience with RR cars in real life, and am very comfortable with the driving rhythm described above. You have to be able to feel when the rear end is coming around properly. As soon as I moved to the DFP I could handle the Yellowbird like it was second-nature to me.
 
The only thing I did to help (and this was for the ring) was to drop the dampeners down one level and added 1.2 & 0.6 degrees of negative camber to the front & rear respectively. This made it just a little bit smoother without upsetting the balance.

If you are having trouble learning how it handes try it on N1 tyres - I'm serious - and drive it slowly around your favourite track until you start to learn how it handles. soon you will discover that it loves to gently drift around corners with barely a touch on the steering; this is the car's natural balance showing through.

I think what turns a lot of people away from this and other cars that have a tendancy to bite, is that if you drive it on soft tyres it is very easy to push the limits and rely on the tyres grip rather than the natural balance of the car. The problem here is that you don't realise how close to the imit you are as the sticky tyres give very little warning that they are about to let go. Then all of a sudden it steps out with such force that it's impossible to correct and around she goes.
 
driftking1212
For a while Iv had the RUF yellow just sitting in my garge and i never really touched it until yesterday. I ran the car pretty hard on trial mountain and the car handles like crap....i have not done nothing to the car yet because im just about 2 sale the dam thing....the only thing its got going for it is the 400+hp that its pulling......somebody change my mind.....
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The yellow bird is exlent. he have very bhp and this is your key.The prolblen is with you.If you drive cars type:ford gt,sallen s7,zonda you note very dificulty on the brake point because this cars are very fast and you nedd to start braking more early. if you do this you can control the yellow bird very well.

ps:if you fallow my consuls you can win a ford gt´05 with the ruf ctr yellow bird
 
Netor1
ruf yellow bird can defeat ford gt´05, zonda,and mercedes slr ?????
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Hmmm. I think you're asking if the RUF Yellowbird is a match for these other models.

Yes, if you learn to drive it properly.
 
i used to restrain the yello by upping the antiskid up in GT2. i know what you mean, after having tested it in arcade mode, now. i swear it's worse, but I was running traction controll only.
 
the yellow bird is like a girlfriend, all about pain and pleasure - you don't treat her nice, and she will bite you in the arse. Treat her like the queen, and she may still bite you in the arse! Despite the arse bites, when she gives you some lovin' its well worth the pain. When you get her right, she will make you feel like a god. Worth the effort in my books.
 
Ezz777
the yellow bird is like a girlfriend, all about pain and pleasure - you don't treat her nice, and she will bite you in the arse. Treat her like the queen, and she may still bite you in the arse! Despite the arse bites, when she gives you some lovin' its well worth the pain. When you get her right, she will make you feel like a god. Worth the effort in my books.
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OH yeah, that's good! :-) Very spot-on, probably the best description of the Yellowbird I've seen.

Some days, I can take the Yellowbird out and drive her beautifully (after a couple laps to get into her groove). Other days, no matter how hard I try, I just can't do her justice.

My personal best time around the ring is in the Yellowbird (6 mins, 47 seconds, I think), beating my time in the Ford GT by about 2 seconds and my time in the Lotus Elise by about 5 seconds (not that any of those times are probably anything to brag about). And yet this evening, I never broke 7 minutes in the Yellowbird after way too many laps. Just not my night...
 
The Yellowbird is clearly one of my favourite cars in GT4; especially the handling is delicious!
I can't really think of a better car to have fun with on the 'ring!!
It's absolute heaven to drift through the bends, enjoy the stupendous acceleration out of them (even in standard trim)
And the soundtrack is to die for. If you have seen RUF's promo video of the Yellowbird on the 'ring, you also know the sound is exactly like it is in real life, which is cool too.
 
Ezz777
the yellow bird is like a girlfriend, all about pain and pleasure - you don't treat her nice, and she will bite you in the arse. Treat her like the queen, and she may still bite you in the arse! Despite the arse bites, when she gives you some lovin' its well worth the pain. When you get her right, she will make you feel like a god. Worth the effort in my books.
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Ha ha! Great observation. Anyway, Porsche/RUFs/RRs are awkward if you have have alwasy driven more common FR/MR/etc motors. In a corner, they can go from dramatic understeer to crazy oversteer.

While learning to handle the RUF BTR (slightly slower but similar enough) around the Nurburgring, I started to try braking before the corner, and enter the corner with no brake pressure, and I would notice the car going into a drift while decelerating around the bend, and I would them use the throttle as appropriate to straighten the car up and move on.

They can be a pain in the arse to begin, but they are rewarding once you get used to their unusual handling. Nothing like thrashing a black BTR on the 'ring.
 
As previously indicated, drive the car (Yellowbird) around your favorite track on N1's very, very slow, paying attention to what the car does under certain situations (Taking a turn at higher speeds then normal, hard braking, etc, etc,)

Then, as you come to learn what the car does under given conditions, start picking the speed up! Speaking of speed...it is your friend! Do NOT fear it! It actually does help in getting around certain tracks when powersliding/drifting...Especially the "ring".

Then as you start getting better, switch over to N2's...practice some more, ultimately getting to N3's and becoming the Yellowbird Zen Master (:D)...!

And to panjandrum...your best time of 6mins/47secs. is just slightly better then my PB of 6min/50secs! :)
 
well, I gave some old RR RUF's a shot.. I noticed that rear toe -2 helped a lot, and so does braking before turning. the key in turning these heavy-arsed old ladies is weight shifting.. and better tyres. R1 or R2 will be just fine, especially if the car is near 700-800 bhp like mine. :scared: acceleration is out of this world, but the turning at full throttle is from hell.. :ouch: thus, I apply handbrake when needed! :dopey: :crazy:

and if this friggin frog-looking car won't make sub seven time on the 'ring soon, I'll sell it.. damned understeer.. :ouch: 🤬

edit: Sold for 50K. good riddance I say.. mere 7.28 on 'Ring, despite 800 bhp. :grumpy:
 
I did a 7.10.xxx on the Ring in my 394 bhp BTR today. R2 tires. Could someone tell me this thing: If a car has a lot of lift-throttle oversteer, I have to accelerate out of oversteering. But what will I do when it begins slipping on full throttle?
 
:drool: omg, ive had 2 game saves on GT4 (1st save died on me :( ) and both saves, until this very day, i havnt used the Yellowbird. Ive been missing out on so much. Its got full bhp n ive give it a bit of a tweek and its a lovly car. Glides around the corners n is rapid out of them! Wicked car! Also, the Ruf BTr deserves an honourable mention. Just as good 👍 il post settins l8a on n u can give em a try if ur a***d
 
Leonidae
and if this friggin frog-looking car won't make sub seven time on the 'ring soon, I'll sell it.. damned understeer.. :ouch: 🤬
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It is interesting that you're complaining of understeer. Did you attempt to modify to suspension to reduce the throttle-off oversteer, thus accidently inducing understeer? One thing I certainly no have trouble with in this car is understeer, I don't think it understeers at all.

Oversteer though? Oh yeah, she's got plenty of that!
 
i did modify everything in it. front camber and rear toe had positive effect on it, but still.. throttle off/on at curve had no meaning, still understeered like pig. and no, i didn't have any driving aids.. i hate them, they cut the power off at best spots. :grumpy: I was about to put a wing on it, but then i gave up and sold it..
 
Leonidae
i did modify everything in it. front camber and rear toe had positive effect on it, but still.. throttle off/on at curve had no meaning, still understeered like pig. and no, i didn't have any driving aids.. i hate them, they cut the power off at best spots. :grumpy: I was about to put a wing on it, but then i gave up and sold it..
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If you were getting any understeer on deceleration, something was very very wrong with your setup. This car oversteers like crazy (but in a wonderfully controllable way) on deceleration. Get into a turn, let off the gas, and watch/feel the rear start to drift out, then just play with stepping back on the gas. Pretty soon you'll get the feel for it. If you win the car again, try it with completely default suspension settings and that might help.

Are you using the Driving Force Pro? If not, maybe that's the difference.

You are sure you're talking about the Yellowbird, right? Not that CTR2 thing with all-wheel-drive? That thing is a complete understeer pig and I gave up trying to fix it after about an hour. Awful awful machine...
 
That's a shame you sold it, if you ever get it again try it totally stock without driving aids. As has been mentioned this is one of the few cars in the game that really doesn't need any tweaking or additional power.

All I've done to mine is a oil change and N1 tyres and for me that is perfect. It does requrie a great deal of concentration to keep under control and there are few places where you can apply full throttle without fear of running wide or, worse, turning it around. I find when I accelerate out of corners I use only 80% throttle at most.

With N1 tyres you really appreciate the power it has - give it a squirt in second and it will light up the back without hesitation. To me this is what a super car should do, just watch the real Yellowbird Nurburgring video and you will see the driver spinning the tyres at will.

Around the ring I can do clean 8.25s at roughly 95% commitment, if I can get a clean lap at 100% I hope to be able to drop about 10s - my goal is 8.15 on N1s.

The BTR is a slightly less savage beast but has the same charcteristics and is good for learning on the smaller tracks.
 
I did drive it stock for a while, just to get used to it. and only thing I didn't change was tyres, I kept them as they were. sure, there was plenty of drift and sliding from side to side when the rear broke loose, but when it didn't, it plowed like that estate volvo.. and it's pretty easy to obtain for me, since I have pretty good settings for my subaru's. but RUF's? never again.. and I didn't use wheel, I prefer DS2 as long as I have afford to buy a wheel. till that, it's analog and buttons for me.
 
I've tried that out too, and it was too different from GT3. too difficult for me. but the rest of cars are just fine for me. But RR's? only beetle is worth of driving..
 
Leonidae
I did drive it stock for a while, just to get used to it. and only thing I didn't change was tyres, I kept them as they were. sure, there was plenty of drift and sliding from side to side when the rear broke loose, but when it didn't, it plowed like that estate volvo.. and it's pretty easy to obtain for me, since I have pretty good settings for my subaru's. but RUF's? never again.. and I didn't use wheel, I prefer DS2 as long as I have afford to buy a wheel. till that, it's analog and buttons for me.
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The problem is probably your choice of controller. With nothing except visual cues, the RR cars can be very difficult to drive. With the DFP you can feel the weight of the rear-end and manage it. I was shocked at first trying to drive the RR cars with a different wheel, couldn't manage them at all. I'm not surprised that you hate the RR cars if you don't use the DFP, I'm not sure how you could control them. No biggie, but yeah, I'm going to suggest that you're correct and should probably stay away from RR cars unless you change controllers.

That's one thing we should all be making clear in our posts. Which controller do you use. There can be huge drivability differences. Even on the DFP itself, different settings in steering options can make or break a car. For the longest time I had huge problems with the Ford GT because in the DFP options I wasn't using "Active Steering". I finally turned Active Steering ON, and the Ford GT instantly drove properly. So something as small as a single setting can make all the difference.
 
There are preference differences too. I liked driving the BTR with a DualShock2 and I managed to drive it pretty well. If only someone could answer my question found in post #19...
 

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