Help w/ my S13!

[FreewayDrifter]

ok, i've been drifting for 2 days now and my main car is an S13 with:

hp - 265

suspension

sr - 3/3
rh - 89/89
shb - 7
shr - 7
cam - 3/1
toe - 2/-.5
stab - 6/6

brakes

balance - 1/max

lsd - 0/10
0/10
0/10

sim tires

my problem is the car spins out very easy when trying a descent drift. just curious if i have too much power or my suspension settings suck or a little bit of both. i know i've just started too but any help would be apreciated.

 

[battle_stage]

Too much power, and your settings suck.


Do this, get rid of whatever is on your car. Buy a 2-way LSD, full custom suspension, triple plate clutch, racing flywheel, carbon driveshaft, semi-racing tranny, sports brakes.

Set the spring rate to about 8 in the front, 5 or 6 in the rear. Lower the car. 3 or 4 camber in the front, 1 on the rear. That's about it....

 

[drifterzzz]

for me all fr cars my style all standard no turbos no weight & lsd ...
lsd will make the cars ezly spin . & the weight red.
all my cars no matter what use these setting
the important thing gear ratios set auto to 20 or 22 so make the gearring so closed & u can ezly correctthe mistakes before spin ..try & c ....k hope thats help

 

[battle_stage]

Forgot to mention, keep the sims, and don't mess with LSD or brake settings. It's unneccessary.

 

[FreewayDrifter]

thanks guys it already feels less squirly.

 

[drifterzzz]

yeh agreee with u bs... try & c k

 

[FreewayDrifter]

is it better to learn going kinda slow or real fast?

 

[battle_stage]

It's better you learn with a low powered car. High power is just a crutch, it won't make you any better.

 

[Ethix101]

I use modified versions of Cudaman's FC settings on most of my cars.

Settings:
SR - 7.0 / 6.0
RH - 99 / 99
Bound - 5 / 7
Rebound - 6 / 7
Camber - 3.5 / 1.5
Toe - -0.5 / 1.5
Stabs - 3 / 3

Brakes - 12/ 18
LSD: Initial = 50, Accel = 50, Decel = 18
Gears: auto level 24

EDIT: Oh yeah, I usually keep it around 300hp with Sim tires and Stage 2 weight reduction.

-Mark

 

[FreewayDrifter]

i think one of my biggest problems is controlling countersteer...i feel like i just go full opposite lock and leave it there, i guess i need to work on that.

 

[battle_stage]

http://www.freewebs.com/monkeyd/drift.html
Check that out, it's a drift guide I made. I explain the counter steering thing and some other stuff.

 

[drifterzzz]

yep i agree with bs atart with standard & low hp cars then after u master it thaen put some tuning like turbo, weigh red & etc ...

 

[battle_stage]

You should tune when you understand the effects of it an already have become a decent drifter. It may seen like you'll learn slower that way but you won't trust me.

 

[FreewayDrifter]

Originally posted by battle_stage
http://www.freewebs.com/monkeyd/drift.html
Check that out, it's a drift guide I made. I explain the counter steering thing and some other stuff.

I read your guide a few times, although it is good, i wish it was a little more detailed. No offense, and i can't wait for you next guide.

 

[FreewayDrifter]

well, back to practicing. I am using a few different cars to see what i can do with them so far I am using :

S13
Silvia Aero
2nd gen RX-7
3rd gen RX-7

and i was messing around with a 700hp Supra

 

[battle_stage]

I didn't want to get to much into detail with the guide cause I didn't want to get anyone confused. But if you got any questioned I'd glad to help.

 

[drifterzzz]

hmmm all your cars are nice to drift ... look at the guide fron bs ..

 

[Venom_supra]

a question i feel like adding :

During a drift, im maybe half way through and the drifting stops, probably coz i lost revs or power.

is there somethin i might have done wrong?

 

[DriftingPolak]

Im using a fc3s and itz pretty good on the drifts but i want it to go alot faster instead of just adding turbo wat do u think is a good gear ration number on auto set. I got 450 horses on it.

 

[Venom_supra]

i doubt you could make it go that much faster just with some ratio's...
how about add some more horse power if u want more speeed?

 

[exhaust_note]

use the cars in my sig
197 hp 180sx - sims- with liteweight stg 3 and full drivetrain mods
208 hp fc - sims-with liteweight stg 3 and full drivetrain mods and computer
these cars drift unbelievable

 

[spaceratk]

for those that are stopping in the middle of the drift, i used to have this same problem what i did was
1/ start my drift a little earlier i used to wait till i reached the turn.
2/enter the turn with a higher speed than you would with a car not set up to drift.

400+hp is more than enough power to get you around any turn in the game. (i run 200+hp cars and they make it its just that you enter the drift too slow).

Remember this is from my experience maybe others may have something better to add.

 

[battle_stage]

For that problem, try to use your weight to get around that turn. At the first turn on Laguna Seca I just let the car slide with no throttle, just steering. I get about halfway through the turn and then I start using the gas to finish off the turn.

 

[FreewayDrifter]

can you play GT3 online some illegal way or anyway?

 

[battle_stage]

No...

 

[Sheron]

Returning to the first question I want to say something.
I'm not a sim drifter (I'm training now ), but I've seen what makes you oversteer like hell. The TOE. Important thing when speaking about understeering-oversteering.

2/-2 --> Heavy oversteer.
-2/2 --> Heavy understeer.

That's the natural tendence of the car, but a skilled driver can kill the natural tendence. You said you're new to this bussiness, so I recomed you to put the toe 0/0 (or 2/2 as I do) to start, and you must notice how goes the car and after, change the toe as you like.

I hope this helps.

 

[battle_stage]

I never touch the rear toe, I don't suggest anyone does either. Seems like a crutch to me.

 

[exhaust_note]

i put my rear toe to usually 0.0 to 0.3, more tires on the ground means better control and more smoke

 

[toyomatt84]

S13=Wicked Awesome car!!!
Enjoi it!!!

Random tangent, I know!!!