help with g27 steering wheel mod!

[Revelation1115]

hey guys i plan on doing the steering wheel mod for my g27 coz the 12 inch wheel is just not cutting it for me.. what car has a 12 inch wheel? lol!! so im planning to buy one but i dont know which will fit. i have these in mind..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stee...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e0b9ce49


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...witem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4399wt_960

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...witem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4077wt_962

will any of these fit??

 

[the_greeze]

If they are 70mm PCD, then yes. 👍

 

[Revelation1115]

oh thanks man! i think ill get these then..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-...rQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_4592wt_958

 

[the_greeze]

You're going to need an adapter to swap out wheels. Chilicoke does these for the G25 and G27. Please check out this link

Hope that helps!

 

[Revelation1115]

thanks the_greeze! im about to buy the adapter and the steering wheel next paycheck! lol

 

[speedyK]

You need to bear in mind that if you buy a dished wheel (like the 2nd one you linked to) rather than a flat one, you are going to have real problems with the paddles – even if you got the special Chilicoke oversized paddles, as they will be wider but still too far back from the wheel. In fact, just with the adaptor, the wheel will be a fair bit further away from the paddles.

It's not impossible to solve but, even for my 31.5 cm Lotus Elise wheel, I had to extend the paddles both out and forwards due to the deeply dished nature of this non-airbag wheel.

 

[Revelation1115]

what if i just use a steering wheel like this..

would i still need the paddle shifter mod?

 

[UK-Gamer]

what if i just use a steering wheel like this..

would i still need the paddle shifter mod?

I doubt it.

 

[Revelation1115]

i hope i wont need it! the shifter mod chilicoke is selling is 35.99usd! and i still have to buy the adapter! man, gt5 does not come cheap i tell you

 

[Joie de vivre!]

Because I cannot open new threads I am going to ask here:

Is it possible to make flappy pedals work here in GT5p???

 

[Revelation1115]

Because I cannot open new threads I am going to ask here:

Is it possible to make flappy pedals work here in GT5p???

i think it only works with the g25 coz it doesnt work with my g27

 

[speedyK]

i think it only works with the g25 coz it doesnt work with my g27

In GT HD, only the paddles worked on my G25. I thought I'd broken it during modding it. Then, when I got GT5P, only the H-shift worked – not the paddles – so I knew it wasn't a hardware problem.

I very much hope that all will work in GT5 with the G25 and G27 – or else someone has got a lot of explaining to do!!!!!

 

[speedyK]

what if i just use a steering wheel like this..
would i still need the paddle shifter mod?

Depends on the diameter – if it's too wide, the paddles will be too far in. Look again at my 31.5 cm Elise wheel pictured above and imagine if it was flat – they would still be too short.

 

[Joie de vivre!]

Dont you like the grip of G27 wheel? I LOVE IT. Its like gokart's steering wheel, feals goooood. Just my opinion.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

i hope i wont need it! the shifter mod chilicoke is selling is 35.99usd! and i still have to buy the adapter! man, gt5 does not come cheap i tell you

Thought of making your own?

All you need is some acrylic sheet, maybe 10mm thick, cheap off ebay, an electric or battery powered drill and some drill bits, very easy to make.

As for the paddle shift, my adapter moved the wheel about 40mm in total and I had to do this.........

 

[speedyK]

But remember, if you use steel as an adaptor, the increased thickness is negligible – you will only have to extend the width of the paddles, not the depth too as with a plastic adaptor.

In my case, the dished wheel made a fair amount of paddle depth extension necessary – a plastic adaptor would have made this even worse.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

But remember, if you use steel as an adaptor, the increased thickness is negligible – you will only have to extend the width of the paddles, not the depth too as with a plastic adaptor.

In my case, the dished wheel made a fair amount of paddle depth extension necessary – a plastic adaptor would have made this even worse.

True, but the wheel he shows isn't a dished wheel, so it won't be that bad, and the "plastic" doesn't need to be more than 10mm, to alow for countersinking the screws that fix the plate to the G25/27 and the screws for fixing the wheel to the plate.

Like I said, my wheel is 40mm in total further from the paddles than with the standard wheel, and I could just about use them, 10mm won't be a problem using a non-dished wheel such as a MOMO or OMP.

The only reason mine is 40mm is because I have a "quick" release system to enable removal of the wheel when calibrating, to save the wheel from slamming into the stops on power up.

 

[Revelation1115]

Thought of making your own?

All you need is some acrylic sheet, maybe 10mm thick, cheap off ebay, an electric or battery powered drill and some drill bits, very easy to make.

As for the paddle shift, my adapter moved the wheel about 40mm in total and I had to do this..

yeah ill look into making my own stuff since gt5 isnt even out yet, but do you have a video that shows how to make the adaptor? coz yours look really good!!

 

[Revelation1115]

Dont you like the grip of G27 wheel? I LOVE IT. Its like gokart's steering wheel, feals goooood. Just my opinion.

well it is handstitched pure leather so it feels really nice but the size just doesnt cut it for a racing sim

 

[Revelation1115]

But remember, if you use steel as an adaptor, the increased thickness is negligible – you will only have to extend the width of the paddles, not the depth too as with a plastic adaptor.
In my case, the dished wheel made a fair amount of paddle depth extension necessary – a plastic adaptor would have made this even worse.

first of all, nice cockpit!! second of all, did you use chilicokes adapter or did you make your own?

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

yeah ill look into making my own stuff since gt5 isnt even out yet, but do you have a video that shows how to make the adaptor? coz yours look really good!!

Will try and put something together over the weekend.

 

[speedyK]

first of all, nice cockpit!!

Thanks

second of all, did you use chilicokes adapter or did you make your own?

Made it myself.

All you need is a piece of steel – I used a bit of a large wood connecting bracket from a DIY store. This is how I did it:

- place the wheel you want to use on the steel plate and mark where holes should be made (try to use any existing holes to save drilling)

- remove the G25 wheel to expose the mounting holes in the centre

- place a circular piece of paper over the mounting holes in the centre and lightly rub a pencil over it (like a brass rubbing) to show where the holes are

- place the paper on top of your steel plate (and try to line up any holes that it may already have in it to save you drilling) – but watch that you take account of the holes for your new wheel too!

- when you are happy that you have lined up correctly, drill any additional mounting holes needed and cut the plate to fit in your new wheel

- don't forget to feed the G25 buttons through if you want them on the new wheel

- then measure carefully to see how far out/forward you want the paddles to be extended. L-shaped aluminium is easy to work with to get a good shape

And when you've done that, you can invert and mod your pedals and perhaps even your shifter 👍

 

[Revelation1115]

Thanks


Made it myself.

All you need is a piece of steel – I used a bit of a large wood connecting bracket from a DIY store. This is how I did it:

- place the wheel you want to use on the steel plate and mark where holes should be made (try to use any existing holes to save drilling)

- remove the G25 wheel to expose the mounting holes in the centre

- place a circular piece of paper over the mounting holes in the centre and lightly rub a pencil over it (like a brass rubbing) to show where the holes are

- place the paper on top of your steel plate (and try to line up any holes that it may already have in it to save you drilling) – but watch that you take account of the holes for your new wheel too!

- when you are happy that you have lined up correctly, drill any additional mounting holes needed and cut the plate to fit in your new wheel

- don't forget to feed the G25 buttons through if you want them on the new wheel

- then measure carefully to see how far out/forward you want the paddles to be extended. L-shaped aluminium is easy to work with to get a good shape

And when you've done that, you can invert and mod your pedals and perhaps even your shifter 👍

okay, thanks for the DIY man.. very informational.. ill do this my next paycheck so i can get the steering wheel..and i have a g27 btw so i think im gonna lose a lot of my buttons! lol

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

okay, thanks for the DIY man.. very informational.. ill do this my next paycheck so i can get the steering wheel..and i have a g27 btw so i think im gonna lose a lot of my buttons! lol

You don't have to, I've got a quote to laser cut a button plate for six buttons which will go behind the wheel, very reasonably priced too.

When I get it I'll stick some details up with a picture so you can see what I'm on about, with GT5's wipers, flashing lights etc, your going to need as many buttons as you can lay your hands on !

 

[Revelation1115]

You don't have to, I've got a quote to laser cut a button plate for six buttons which will go behind the wheel, very reasonably priced too.

When I get it I'll stick some details up with a picture so you can see what I'm on about, with GT5's wipers, flashing lights etc, your going to need as many buttons as you can lay your hands on !

lol yeah thats why i started to think twice about replacing my 8 buttoned wheel..

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

lol yeah thats why i started to think twice about replacing my 8 buttoned wheel..

This is what I came up with..........

Shape not finalised yet, but you get the idea, the plate goes behind the wheel, the holes are for the six buttons on a G27.

 

[Revelation1115]

This is what I came up with..........

Shape not finalised yet, but you get the idea, the plate goes behind the wheel, the holes are for the six buttons on a G27.

wow thats gonna look great.. let me know when you plan to sell it.. ill be glad to buy it (as long as its at a reasonable price.. more or less 30 bucks?)

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

Well, the quote I got from the place that cuts the Aluminuim seems to be £40.00, the quote is quite unclear though. You would probably be cheaper finding somewhere over there that does online laser cutting.

If you want to send me a picture of your wheel I can do a quick overlay of a design in AutoCad and send you the file, most places that laser cut metals use the .dwg file to make the part anyway.

Obviously as wheel designs differ, the exact shape of the plate and button placement will be different from mine. The problem with getting these things cut is the "minimum cut charge", if you were getting say 50 cut, they would be a few pounds each !

 

[Revelation1115]

this is the one that i intend to buy.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...witem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4592wt_958
and how much is 40pounds converted to dollars?

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

this is the one that i intend to buy.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...witem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_4592wt_958
and how much is 40pounds converted to dollars?

$61.00 ! and that doesn't include shipping !

You should try ebay, thats where I found the place that'll cut mine.

Do a search for "laser cutting services" and you should be able to find one, I'll do a AutoCad drawing for you probably this time tomorrow and send it to you.

edit, ah, what the hell, heres a rough one, let me know what you think, I figure you need some room for the thumbs so you can't have the buttons too close to the but you hold onto, I'm only guessing though as I haven't made mine yet !

Also, you'd need to decide what type of switches you are going to use to get the hole size right, nothing is ever straight forward !