How the Megane Trophy just ruined GR4 for me...
- Thread starter Bruunz
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- Hereford
- Fellix79
I will always refuse to use a FWD Car as a Racecar if possible... Even if i am slower than those who just folow the mainstream and ruining the fun of the game with it.
There is so many Cars in this Game and still 50% always use the same Mainstream Cars. Arent we Car enthusiast that like some Cars and some not so much and there fore would like to win with our Favorit Cars and not with the ugly but fast once?
I dont know. I will never understand this behavior.
For Example i am 90% of the Time in naturally aspirated V8 Cars with RWD. Others maybe only drive japanese Cars. And others just drive the top qualifier cars.
I agree with you. I prefer to use either the Alfa 4C or Caymen GT4 for Gr4 races. I know I'm not good enough to win, even if I followed the herd, so I stick to cars that are light and handle well at low to medium speed.
- 1,875
- United States
Hopefully one thing that comes from the Manufacturers Championship competition will be a ton of Data from across the ranks of the very top racers in the game that PD can analyze and use to better balance the BoP within the class so a racer can then use just about any car in the class and be competitive.
As long as the BoP is just a general class balance and the same settings applied across all circuits and not applied independently to each car for each individual circuit you will always have some tracks favor some cars and never have a true class balance on each individual circuit.
As long as the BoP is just a general class balance and the same settings applied across all circuits and not applied independently to each car for each individual circuit you will always have some tracks favor some cars and never have a true class balance on each individual circuit.
- 3,458
- Canada
it just doesn't belong in Group 4, it's so different, the aero grip is crazy, it's in a no mans land. You'd to SERIOUSLY bump the weight to bring it inline with other cars pace wise and even then it's just weird the way it drives, GT43 is meant to be improved production not serious race car.
- 425
- United States
- wheelmansteve
The solution here is to buff some of the other Gr.4 cars, or move the Trophy to GR3. The Trophy is a blast in the twistys, but lacks top speed.
Considering the Veyron is arguably the most unbalance of the bunch (and the fact pd didnt create a gr3 version, so its not usable in the manufacturer championship), i dont think so. Whereas the megane trophy is an actual car that was used in real life gt4 races, it fits much more in the category, as it falls in line with the cayman gt4, m4 gt4, vantage gt4, amg sls gt4, gt86 gt4, etc.
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- Ottawa
- Pyano1132
In the next BOP update, I wouldn't be surprised if they added weight to the Megane Trophy and all the meta-players will abandon it like they did with the BMW and regular Megane.
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- Nelson, England
- GTP_ASH32
It's already slow on the straights, if they add weight and don't improve the power (because it may still be OP then if they do) then it will become useless. They do need to sort it's fuel economy a bit as well, that is too good.
Unless they just do the sensible thing and move it out of Gr4 of course.
- 3,458
- Canada
Last night on the Ring daily race these cars were just AWFUL. They were so fast through the corners that it caused multiple crashes per race because they'd invariably hit you up the rear if they were just tussling with another Megane and then they are in the way on the straights.
Horrible, wish this car was never in the game, it's butchered the formulae.
Horrible, wish this car was never in the game, it's butchered the formulae.
- 51,491
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
After sampling all but the "OyVey"ron and the Citroen, I feel they all have strengths and weaknesses. That's the way it should be.
In my hands, I'm getting the best out of each car the more I learn them. I'm also competitive with the Gr. 4 cars. I've been an S/S, B/C rating and enjoyed using all those cars. It's more how each player chooses to learn the cars. Not just do what everyone else is by using a supposedly Dominant car.
Some players need to drive half speed first.
In my hands, I'm getting the best out of each car the more I learn them. I'm also competitive with the Gr. 4 cars. I've been an S/S, B/C rating and enjoyed using all those cars. It's more how each player chooses to learn the cars. Not just do what everyone else is by using a supposedly Dominant car.
Some players need to drive half speed first.
- 759
- France
“Exterior modifications are kept to a minimum, with relatively simple aerodynamic parts. The power is modest, and so are the weight reductions.”
I hate to say it, but I think this car belongs in Gr.X for now.
Anyway, it needs a small weight increase and fuel nerf.
I hate to say it, but I think this car belongs in Gr.X for now.
Anyway, it needs a small weight increase and fuel nerf.
KingFrog
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- 837
- NOYB
Unfortunately, the sad truth is that GR4 is very badly balanced. PD included GT4, TC and a few VLN SP classes. While, indeed, if you watch VLN races they have similar lap times, 4wd, rear wheel and front wheel drive have VERY different tire wear and it makes them not competitive. And let's not forget thte fact that they also included the Veyron as a "gr4")). That being said, I would consider the Megane Trophy as one of the few proper cars for Gr4, as in reality it was also used in GT4 spec races.
Gr4 unbalanced? It's the most balanced class. the fact half of the people on this thread say they have beaten the trophy proves it's not OP . I seriously doubt every dude in the top 10 have tried every single GR4 car to boot.
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- Canada
- Oswal07
I don't have time to test many cars so I just try to choose the top ten car that most appeals and try to be competitive. Today on Brands the Megane trophy was a no brainer. Some cars I feel like if only it could be tuned a little, the gearing, the LSD, the suspension. The Megane is perfect.
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- France
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- Nelson, England
- GTP_ASH32
Yep at best it's a second slower a lap, maybe a few tenths more. Anyone driving a Trophy and getting beat by it are utter trash, especially when the Trophy could no stop too.
PD's "Groups" explanation is biting them in the ass. That is because they included a lot of GT4 cars in Gr4 (which would make sense, as Gr3 is mostly GT3). Trouble is, quite a few GT4 real life cars, like the Megane Trophy and the X-Bow GT4, have -extensive- visual (and aero) modifications, but still adhere to the weight/power/aero limits of GT4.
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- Crete
- 759
- France
- 3,458
- Canada
This car was absolutely ridiculous at Brands last night. brands is the perfect track to show the disparity this thing represents, with it's off camber corners, long corners, short straights etc. Not only is it FAR more stable than other Group 4 cars through the corners, it was considerably faster and chewed less fuel and tyres.
I tried other cars but was a full 1.5 seconds per lap faster int he Megane, had no choice but to use it because i was being owned. I even managed to avoid a pit stop, so was using fuel map 3 and STILL i was faster than almost every other car except the other Megane's.
Ridiculous. It's gotta go.
I tried other cars but was a full 1.5 seconds per lap faster int he Megane, had no choice but to use it because i was being owned. I even managed to avoid a pit stop, so was using fuel map 3 and STILL i was faster than almost every other car except the other Megane's.
Ridiculous. It's gotta go.
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