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@Exorcet
There is nothing to say to that...you are right.
I forgot Porsches go 750+mph jesus how the hell could PD forget that never mind neglect to make an update for it?
You seem high maintenance. RC Pro time maybe? Dont play the game if you think its what you say it isnt...
I was telling you and others to stop complaining about it because it isn't as easy to crack. And yes, I do want to be able to hack my cars. I want my slammed and stance cars back. I want my engine swaps back and aspiration conversions. That's why I want to get the encryption cracked. I WANT to be able to make the kinds of cars and modifications I WANT, not what PD gives me the options to do. PD leaves these gaps and I'm going to jump for the chance to make them. And don't tell me that I shouldnt play GT then. I've always been and always will be a GT person. No other game even gives the chance to do this stuff, hacking or not. I have Forza and I love the swaps you can do, it just lacks the stancing. Look, I'm sorry your "online experience" was ruined by the little kids with crap loads of hp, but if I want my cars stanced and engine swapped, I'm not going to think twice about the people like you because I know that my cars arent going to affect you.
I believe we showed in GT5 that you can't gain any advantage by anything else you can do to a car because it's realistically reflected in the PP figures.
Grip multipliers affected PP as did downforce, chassis swaps etc. You throw an E-Type Jag onto an RX-7 chassis you get a car that looks like an E-Type and has the PP of the RX-7 chassis.Did grip multipliers alter performance points? That would be a concern if not.
Who said anything about not playing GT? I am so sick of people using Strawman arguments on this forum to make a point. You put words in my mouth, then start to make an argument based around those words....
Have you ever thought those restrictions are put in place for a reason? It does not matter what you "want", it is a game, games have rules that have to be followed. If you played football and just "wanted" to break the rules, you would be kicked off the field. Because you are ruining the game for everyone else.
That is the bottom line, it is the people actively trying to hack the game because it is something they "want" [btw, you can't always get what you "want" in this world] that end up ruining the game for everyone else that does not "want" it.
Remember the suspension exploit in GT3? So the problems lie deeper within than anything the modders have begun to do.
In a perfect world you're right, no one would hack, everyone would follow the rules. Agreed, everyone agrees, end of that discussion. Point conceded, you win, anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and I'm being serious. I had the exact same viewpoint in GT5 as you...at first.
The world is not perfect, people are hacking, now what? You can continue to rail on about a point that is already over and done with which will get you nothing and nowhere, or we can try and figure out ways to deal with this reality that works for everyone. PD has given us the tools to control this in online lobbies so it's really a non-issue in a well hosted lobby. The only way it really affects any of us is if it leaks into TT's then PD will deal with it as they did in GT5.
With all due respect, a car that looks like a 'vette but walks like a HSC, handles like a HSC, is on the chassis of a HSC with the Engine of a HSC is still a HSC [in other words, if it walks and talks like a duck, it most likely is one] which imo is just as bad to race online. People now think they are up against a certain type of car, choose their race strategy and pick their car accordingly only to be bamboozled by some person who is in all reality really cheating.
There I said it, 'Cheating' because that is exactly what it is. Making a person believe one thing but using an unfair or against the rules advantage to win. be it physical or mental or both in this case, if it is not in the rules, it is cheating.
Cheat - act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.
Hack - use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system.
I forgot Porsches go 750+mph jesus how the hell could PD forget that never mind neglect to make an update for it?
I think a lot of people don't know the difference between cheating and hacking.
A lot of people see cheating as only the first half of the definition (act dishonestly or unfairly) which is incorrect. You can hack/mod without cheating, and the reverse is also possible (ex: allow suspension but not transmission tuning - no scrutiny board).
i don't believe there is anyone here that defends cheating. Everyone is against it. It is just plain wrong and users should be banned.
But implying that the one who hacks also cheats is not sound. Having a 5000hp RUF is not cheating as long as it isn't used in a event with a determined set of rules (TT, online races). This car offline, or even online, does not constitute cheating by itself because it fails the second criteria of the definition of cheating. The point is that it must be used to gain an advantage. If there is no advantage to be gained (online free run for example) then it's not cheating.
With that said hacking without cheating in the case presented by this thread is fine for me as a player. It doesn't make me less able to do the things I could do before, it doesn't reduce my liberty. It's none of my business how others want to play the game.
Now if the discussion was about hacking alone: moral implications, future implications, the change to the perceived value system, etc... that would be a different matter and would lead me off-topic. In this particular case, for that discussion, we would need to analyse what is the impact on Sony (not just on self as I did above).
If I ran this site then any moderator giving such opinions would not be a member of the site anymore let alone continue moderating.
No, the game got ruined when parents bought their immature 12 year olds a PS3 and GT6(as well as every other online-enabled game). Hacking can't even ruin time trials as PD did it themselves by making SRF an option.
So yeah, saying hacking is ruining the game is like saying an STD ruins a hooker.
They seemed to let it slide when people started selling Vision Mercedes'.I personally think that anyone implementing hacks should be banned. If you gain access to the save file then you could alter your credits and seeing as these are now sold for real money then it is tantamount to stealing. I'm sure SONY and PD would also consider this as theft.
How interesting that you feel moderators for a completely-non-Sony-affiliated website would only pass the muster if they were enforcing Sony's Terms of Service rather than those of this site.But what I find most disgusting is that moderators seem to be endorsing this, even speaking of doing this themselves in GT5, not cool man, not cool.
If I ran this site then any moderator giving such opinions would not be a member of the site anymore let alone continue moderating.
Geez, didn't expect to see a hybrid car in GT6 this soon. Something tells me that the process of modifying GT6 save file is probably the same as it was with GT5.
I'll just drop this here...
Personally, I don't support this kind of hybrids.