Hyundai Ioniq 5N is Coming to Gran Turismo 7’s Next Update

[Meythia]

It’s a fact that’s embedded in GT history.

So, you rather have no changes at all? No progress, no nothing new?
All still driving Benz Motorwagen 1, because new means bad?

 

[Nielsen]

So, you rather have no changes at all? No progress, no nothing new?
All still driving Benz Motorwagen 1, because new means bad?

I didn’t say I wanted nothing new. It’s not like the EVs bring any changes to the game. They simply come with fewer aspects to explore, because EVs are mostly static cars.

 

[Scaff]

I think it does.#

Based on the replies you have receieved, that doesn't appear to be the case.

I more or less supported it from the very beginning. ICE cars are oftentimes fully compatible with the Tuning Shop and GT Auto.

Often, but not always, and not always fully. As such it's not a limitation that applies just to EV's

There are hours of fun to be had experimenting with only one car model. It’s a design that dates back to the first GT title, and it represents something virtually everyone wanted to return back when GT Sport released without said features. On the other hand, the EVs are almost dead on arrival. One can drive them and apply a very limited selection of upgrades. Forget about the joy of shifting through the gears. Maybe the Ioniq 5N will simulate the artificial gears of the real car, but let’s see about that. The game really offers so much more on the ICE front. It’s a fact that’s embedded in GT history.

That's a limitation of PD and GT7, not of EV's. Do you really think that EVs are unmodifiable?

I haven’t said anything along the lines of mandates.

You have inferred.

I didn’t argue they have no place. However, their influx in GT7 is getting a bit much for me, and I explained why I feel this way.

Influx? Go on then, let us know what percentage of the car count they make up?

Depends on who you ask regarding EVs.

I'd base that one the views of those who have a wide range of experience with them in reality.

I’m ready to disqualify every EV in known existence. They really irk me on every level.

All based on limited experience of one car, on road, I believe?

 

[Rossell2]

No offence to anyone but there's a few posts using massive paragraphs just to say "I don't like EVs."

I'll be honest, of all the EVs I've driven so far, I've only enjoyed the ID.R, and maybe the Afeela once you get around the handling, that actually feels like the future. That doesn't mean they're all bad. Would I have the Spierling, as game breaking as it is? Audis Dakar racer? Yes I would, willing to have an open mind and have a go. I'll drive the Hyundai as well.

Yes there's a lot of hypocrisy and snake oil involved with them, why wouldn't there be? The last hundred years have been exactly the same with ICE.

 

[AlexWilmot]

EV's make up 3% of the GT7 car list...

 

[Nielsen]

Based on the replies you have receieved, that doesn't appear to be the case.

I wouldn’t read too much into that. Some people got overly triggered by the “green agenda”. Apparently it’s taboo in this thread. No idea why.

Often, but not always, and not always fully. As such it's not a limitation that applies just to EV's

I’m perfectly aware of this. But with EVs it’s a chronic limitation.

That's a limitation of PD and GT7, not of EV's. Do you really think that EVs are unmodifiable?

My concerns are directed at GT7. What may or may not be possible elsewhere is irrelevant. The Ioniq will adhere to GT7 functionality.

You have inferred.

Provide an example.

Influx? Go on then, let us know what percentage of the car count they make up?

I’m referring to the Mission X having arrived in November and the Ioniq in January. The EV percentage across those two updates will be decided by the total car count of the January update.

I wasn’t referring to the number of EVs in the total car count, but rather the influx of EVs appears to be picking up momentum.

All based on limited experience of one car, on road, I believe?

I said extensive experience with one particular EV. I cannot even remember some of the EVs I’ve driven, as they bore me beyond belief. I cannot identify what they are when I see them in traffic. I obviously recognize the marque, but I couldn’t care less about the specific models. They also scare me due to how much speed they can pick up in no time and with no effort.

 

[Scaff]

I wouldn’t read too much into that. Some people got overly triggered by the “green agenda”. Apparently it’s taboo in this thread. No idea why.

I would guess because you're presenting it as a grand conspiracy.

I’m perfectly aware of this. But with EVs it’s a chronic limitation.

It doesn't need to be.

My concerns are directed at GT7. What may or may not be possible elsewhere is irrelevant. The Ioniq will adhere to GT7 functionality.

Which once again is a limitation from PD, not from EV's themselves.

Provide an example.

Green agenda, none handle well, no place, don't fit with 'GT', etc. etc.

I’m referring to the Mission X having arrived in November and the Ioniq in January. The EV percentage across those two updates will be decided by the total car count of the January update.

And then that percentage would need to be averaged across all updates, after all for a true statistical analysis we need that as well. Add in a break-down of how many updates did or did not include EVs.

If PD were throwing the likes of the Ora Funky Cat in every update I would be inclined to agree with you, but we're not close to seeing that. Have we even seen two updates in a row with EVs before in the GT7 updates?

I wasn’t referring to the number of EVs in the total car count, but rather the influx of EVs appears to be picking up momentum.

See above for what we need to know to see if that is an actual trend or not. So far no 'Influx' has been shown.

I said extensive experience with one particular EV. I cannot even remember some of the EVs I’ve driven, as they bore me beyond belief. I cannot identify what they are when I see them in traffic. I obviously recognize the marque, but I couldn’t care less about the specific models.

One. Your own words, do you not see how small that data set is to then write them all off?

They also scare me due to how much speed they can pick up in no time and with no effort.

Bang go the ICE hypercars as well then...

 

[LSFDRX]

You’re in deep waters with all of this.

No, I'm not. It's frustratingly simple, and very telling that you take issue with that comment in particular. Really sheds light on the thoughts that underlie your conspiratorial ranting.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

May I please kindly suggest clicking the ignore button on Nielsen's profile?

People like them are always desperate to have the final word.

 

[syntex123]

May I please kindly suggest clicking the ignore button on Nielsen's profile?

People like them are always desperate to have the final word.

Even after you hit that button, he’ll still silently have the final word.

 

[GlamFM]

As far as electric cars go the 5N is certainly one of the more interesting ones.

Might actually be the most interesting one right now.

Absolutely looking forward to it.

Wonder if we’ll be able to change all the modes and engine sounds.

 

[MIE1992]

As far as electric cars go the 5N is certainly one of the more interesting ones.

Might actually be the most interesting one right now.

Absolutely looking forward to it.

Wonder if we’ll be able to change all the modes and engine sounds.

Fully agreed. Even if we can't do anything about the engine sounds, the Ioniq 5 N was still one of like, five EVs I was especially interested in seeing.

 

[LSFDRX]

May I please kindly suggest clicking the ignore button on Nielsen's profile?

People like them are always desperate to have the final word.

I've never seen the point of ignoring anyone. You're just voluntarily missing out on parts of a discussion. I disagree with what he says here, but that's not true for other times where I have agreed with him.

You're only short changing yourself by hitting ignore... discussions aren't always sunshine and roses. It's okay to be challenged, and it's ok to move right on past it as well.

 

[syntex123]

You're only short changing yourself by hitting ignore... discussions aren't always sunshine and roses. It's okay to be challenged, and it's ok to move right on past it as well.

This is very true. Something people often forget.

Also important for someone who argues to know that everyone’s taste is like a butt. It’s parted in the middle.

 

[MIE1992]

Now as far as EVs in GT go, I know that PD had expressed interest in Formula E, but I think the question we should ask is what car should be added from the sport's history? I'd imagine one of the newest models would be likeliest, though I doubt we'll get the entire field. (I also don't necessarily think we need the entire field from a given season.) With this in mind, I think we're likely to get a racer from an especially successful team, like Nissan or Jaguar. Of these two teams, the Jaguar I-Type 7 could be especially good, since it seems to be emblematic of their current trajectory, and it would pair well with the potential addition of the Jaguar I-Pace, which had a one-make cup associated with Formula E.

EDIT: I also was wondering something about the upcoming Ioniq 5 N. If it does indeed get featured in a new round of the WTC 600, I wonder what layout would best-suit it? I'm pretty sure that the Ioniq 5 N is best for tarmac, so it's not like I see it being featured at a new WTC 600 round at say, Fisherman's Ranch. But upon inspection of the WTC 600's GTWiki page, it seems like there are more available venues than I thought. And although there already is a round of this event at the Nurburgring GP layout, perhaps the Nordschleife could be especially fitting, given the origin of the name for Hyundai's N. (Indeed, there are indeed two WTC 600 rounds at Tokyo Expressway, too - one for East, another for South, so it's not like having two rounds of the same event at the same venue is unprecedented.) Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that there are only seven rounds of the WTC 600, as I really thought there were a lot more.

 

[syntex123]

Indeed, there are indeed two WTC 600 rounds at Tokyo Expressway, too - one for East, another for South, so it's not like having two rounds of the same event at the same venue is unprecedented.