If hell exists it is this...

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It's called Quantum Suicide.

In a nutshell it is a theory of respected cosmologist Max Tegmark, and others, that states you experience only the universes on which you survive, assuming a multiverse, so you become immortal.

A short description on HowStuffWorks.

This means we experience only other peoples' deaths while we survive miraculously while we age and rot and see all humans' demise.

I'm afraid to accept this possibility. :nervous:

But, hey, on the bright side, this would make for a sweet movie don't ya think? 💡
 
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Umm, I kind of skim read the article on account of the fact that it sounds like donkey dung, so I may be missing something, but this is not backed up by any kind of experiment.. or science... is it?
 
Umm, I kind of skim read the article on account of the fact that it sounds like donkey dung, so I may be missing something, but this is not backed up by any kind of experiment.. or science... is it?

It's based on quantum mechanics's weird rules. Google/Wiki Schrodinger's cat for something similar.
 
It's not backed up by any scientific experiment, simply because the item you are measuring is too small to be found and measured. But it does form the most fundamental building blocks of parallel universes, and how it is possible to influence the outcome of an action.
 
I think its just a half 🤬 theory. As they probably have no proof the our universe splits like that.
 
So basically this is quantum mechanics of the mind, correct? I know, according to quantum mechanics, that in reality, every possible outcome is always happening simultaneously in a different dimension and/or universe, for that matter. However, quantum mechanics of the mind would mean....well...this?

 
Umm, I kind of skim read the article on account of the fact that it sounds like donkey dung, so I may be missing something, but this is not backed up by any kind of experiment.. or science... is it?

Well there isn't much in the way of experimental evidence, but there is a quite a noticeable presence of string theory in the field of theoretical physics. String Theory actively suggests a multi-verse as it is the principle it is based upon.

Given String Theory has a fair bit of support, the idea that we exist amongst an infinite number of Universe is perhaps not such a ridiculous suggestion....and of course, in an infinite Universe, anything that can happen DOES happen at the same time, and infinite amount of times.

That's a lot of hell scenarios to live out at all times, thankfully it also means a lot of perfect scenarios too simultaneously too.

Dealing with infinity is what makes the whole thing appear illogical, as infinity does not make sense to human brains at least. It is worth remembering however, that our whole understanding of physics is based upon the premise that infinity is a tangible number which exists in many forms all across the Universe. Our understanding of Black holes is a testament to this.
 
Well, although I'm fascinated by physics I'll defer my opinion on this, because I'm not about to sit here tonight and begin a life long journey of understanding quantum physics and associated counter-arguments..... however,

surely, to relate this to life and death is quite simplistic.. and also pointless, if every such action leads to a new universe, where is the line drawn? Life and death decisions, tea or coffee decisions, sub-conscious decisions, you're bodies ability to keep it's heart beating, a spec of dust landing 1 tenth of an atto-meter to the left......

Every tiny atomic and sub-atomic movement or interaction could sprout a new universe, out of which would instantly spring the same number of similar universes etc. etc. etc...

I'm sure someone's going to pop up and say "yes that's the point of 'xyz' therory!..." but that would pretty much mean everything existed all at the same time (therefore rendering time irrelevant).. and if that's theoretically possible, then any joe could publish a theory linking any one thing to another..?

I do find it fascinating, but at the same time....... you may as well spend you lfe reading conspiracy theories...
 
Well, although I'm fascinated by physics I'll defer my opinion on this, because I'm not about to sit here tonight and begin a life long journey of understanding quantum physics and associated counter-arguments..... however,

surely, to relate this to life and death is quite simplistic.. and also pointless, if every such action leads to a new universe, where is the line drawn? Life and death decisions, tea or coffee decisions, sub-conscious decisions, you're bodies ability to keep it's heart beating, a spec of dust landing 1 tenth of an atto-meter to the left......

Every tiny atomic and sub-atomic movement or interaction could sprout a new universe, out of which would instantly spring the same number of similar universes etc. etc. etc...

I'm sure someone's going to pop up and say "yes that's the point of 'xyz' therory!..." but that would pretty much mean everything existed all at the same time (therefore rendering time irrelevant).. and if that's theoretically possible, then any joe could publish a theory linking any one thing to another..?

I do find it fascinating, but at the same time....... you may as well spend you lfe reading conspiracy theories...


It's more like this



See from the 5th dimension on to see the implications.
 


I was completely fine with that right up until the last bit where simply observing changed the result.

Could they be a universe in an atom that is aware of what is happening.
 
Could they be a universe in an atom that is aware of what is happening.

Particles are not aware of anything. An observer simply collapses the wave function.

Think of it like this, the electrons want to go through the slits in every possible way, and they do. When an observer comes and watches them do that, he is automatically placed in one universe where one of the ways that the electrons passed through the slits has occurred. The observer can't see the other ways that the electron passed through the slit because it would require the observer being in multiple universes at once.
 
This is amazing, even though I still can't truly comprehend it... at all.

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It's more like this



See from the 5th dimension on to see the implications.


Very good video, and it does better represent what I was talking about when I said ...
"but that would pretty much mean everything existed all at the same time".
.. being the point in the 10th dimension.

It is fascinating, but so far Doc Brown's the only person I've ever seen who has managed to prove the existence of a 5th dimension, in Back to the future 2.. and unfortunatley.. Doc Brown's not real.


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ummm, okay my mind is racing at the possibilities.. I'm off to write a theory...
 
I firmly believe that you just die and turn to dust, and this theory just sounds like the worst-case-scenario of the afterlife. Sorry, this ain't The Matrix, and we're not part of a simulation. Too much theory, not enough practicality...yet.
 
Particles are not aware of anything. An observer simply collapses the wave function.

Think of it like this, the electrons want to go through the slits in every possible way, and they do. When an observer comes and watches them do that, he is automatically placed in one universe where one of the ways that the electrons passed through the slits has occurred. The observer can't see the other ways that the electron passed through the slit because it would require the observer being in multiple universes at once.


I was stating another theory of a universe inside an atom. However, everything in this area is still mind blowing.
 
Particles are not aware of anything. An observer simply collapses the wave function.

Think of it like this, the electrons want to go through the slits in every possible way, and they do. When an observer comes and watches them do that, he is automatically placed in one universe where one of the ways that the electrons passed through the slits has occurred. The observer can't see the other ways that the electron passed through the slit because it would require the observer being in multiple universes at once.

Nicely simplified...

I'd go one step further.. "when you don't look, everything happens"...

So when you don't look at the split, you can see evidence of everything happening, when you do look, you only see the outcome.... somebody with a greater vocabulary than me could probably relate that to everyday life....
 
I was stating another theory of a universe inside an atom. However, everything in this area is still mind blowing.

A bit like the cat in 'Men in Black' then.

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I firmly believe that you just die and turn to dust, and this theory just sounds like the worst-case-scenario of the afterlife. Sorry, this ain't The Matrix, and we're not part of a simulation. Too much theory, not enough practicality...yet.

Non believer!:sly:

That tenth dimension video is as mind boggling confusing as much as it makes total sense.
 
Scientists should spend less time thinking/studying stuff of this nature and figure out solutions for more urgent problems in this world, in my opinion.
 
Non believer!:sly:

That tenth dimension video is as mind boggling confusing as much as it makes total sense.

It's a lot like mental arithmatic... we can all multiply 9 by 9, but mulitplying the product by 9, 9 times in a row is quite difficult to do in your head... even though it's a simple concept.
 
Nicely simplified...

I'd go one step further.. "when you don't look, everything happens"...

So when you don't look at the split, you can see evidence of everything happening, when you do look, you only see the outcome.... somebody with a greater vocabulary than me could probably relate that to everyday life....

Well, I think there is a better way to explain it, I just don't want to try and figure out how to say it. I'm not going to lie, I'm not an expert on this anyway and I only have basic understanding.

Scientists should spend less time thinking/studying stuff of this nature and figure out solutions for more urgent problems in this world, in my opinion.

I consider computers which fly our planes, solve cancer, and handle our money important. Scientists don't get funding to play.

It's a lot like mental arithmatic... we can all multiply 9 by 9, but mulitplying the product by 9, 9 times in a row is quite difficult to do in your head... even though it's a simple concept.

Yes, it's just a big 10 dimension cube, only people typically can only imagine 0 (point), 1(line), 2(square), or 3-cubes (an actual cube). Not 4-cubes (tesseract), let alone 10-cubes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-cube
 
Scientists should spend less time thinking/studying stuff of this nature and figure out solutions for more urgent problems in this world, in my opinion.
This. 👍

It's kind of an anti-Christ proof if you ask me. God would never have made man as curious as we are.
 
My mind has been 🤬 in all of its orphaces too many times.... Im gonna start learning quantom mechanics just for fun.
 
Would you like to see everyone you love grow old and die while you don't?

This is what I don't understand about this theory. Everyone gets old and their body deteriorates as it does so. But this theory suggests that when you die, you actually carry on on two 'planes', one where you're alive and one where you're not.

So what would happen as you carried on ageing?

Or does the theory only apply to suicide?
 
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