If hell exists it is this...

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I don't know where it ever said that in each universe you're doing the same thing as another universe. If you could give me evidence to where that is said or absolute that would help me agree with you more, however it is just as equally hard to prove as I've said already, the actual physical singular parallel universe.

 

[shmogt]

What I have said is more based on previous theories. This one is a bit different and the first I have heard of it, but still to me falls into the same category. It doesn't matter if you die in one and live in another because it can't ever be proven making it just a theory. Yes theoretically it could be possible, but there is zero facts and is impossible to prove. I want to believe it so if you can think of literally any possible way there is a shot at proving it I would like to know because myself and the scientific community can't come up with anything.

 

[W3H5]

It's a thought experiment, very much like the Schroedinger Cat experiment. A lot of it is requires extra theories for it to be effective, such as the Uncertainty Principle on which a lot of quantum mechanics is based.

No fear of hell at all, if there is one, it's part of our subconscious mind.

EDIT: Broke my own 1 post a day rule. Nuts.

 

[Moglet]

Ok if god decides all which is basically don't break the ten commandments and you go to heaven. Let's say you kill someone while driving and they jumped in front of your car. Technically it's not your fault but you still killed the person breaking a commandment? Or if you steal some bread to save a poor family. Is stealing a loaf of bread that's worth like two bucks really worse than saving a family of 5 to eat for at least another day? It's just too confusing. Conrad Murray for example got sentenced to jail because he killed Michael Jackson but would he go to hell when he dies since he killed him or will god say you were a doctor and had no real way of knowing that there was too much of that certain drug in him which caused him to die. What about the devil is he wanting people to come to hell. If he's so against and the opposite of god than why is he in an agreement allowing god to decide who comes to hell. Why wouldn't he fight back and try to send them to heaven so he wins. It would be a huge court case every time.

This is one of the many reasons I don't believe in any form of religion!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

What I have said is more based on previous theories. This one is a bit different and the first I have heard of it, but still to me falls into the same category. It doesn't matter if you die in one and live in another because it can't ever be proven making it just a theory. Yes theoretically it could be possible, but there is zero facts and is impossible to prove. I want to believe it so if you can think of literally any possible way there is a shot at proving it I would like to know because myself and the scientific community can't come up with anything.

With all due respect you and the scientific community are two seperate things first off, and I'm only restating what the scientific community has found to begin with. We're talking quantum mechanics which isn't something I just made up. Also the scientific community does have proof with the math that has been done to help provide for such theories, just cause one can't grasp the full scope of the idea doesn't mean it has no existence.

 

[Blackbird.]

I can't even begin to wrap my head around this kind of 🤬.

 

[axletramp]

Going by the thread title, I honestly thought there was going to be a picture of Birmingham here somewhere.

 

[Neal]

Provincial town having piss taken and it's not Liverpool \o/

 

[axletramp]

I could edit it if you want. Anyway, I like Liverpool.

 

[Alex p.]

It's a thought experiment, very much like the Schroedinger Cat experiment. A lot of it is requires extra theories for it to be effective, such as the Uncertainty Principle on which a lot of quantum mechanics is based.

No fear of hell at all, if there is one, it's part of our subconscious mind.

EDIT: Broke my own 1 post a day rule. Nuts.

And here we would enter the "Alien/Demon/Extra-Interdimensional beings manipulating us" theory.

By subconsciously making us believe we deserve such a place and with that making us create this place for us to be there, for eternity, so that we do not stand in there way anymore as we are immortal and eternal beings, get it?

 

[shmogt]

With all due respect you and the scientific community are two seperate things first off, and I'm only restating what the scientific community has found to begin with. We're talking quantum mechanics which isn't something I just made up. Also the scientific community does have proof with the math that has been done to help provide for such theories, just cause one can't grasp the full scope of the idea doesn't mean it has no existence.

Yes and no. As the first page video shows a particle goes threw both slots even tho it is only one somehow, but only the observer can watch it go threw one. Now an observer can watch one meaning if you put a observer on the other side it would observe the same particle go threw the other slots. A observer can only watch one particle at a time meaning that if you want to watch the other one you have than moved the other observer since you can't watch the same thing. So if you were planning on traveling to a different universe the exact "you" in the other would have to be moved since "you" can not coexist. The only way that is possible is if the you in all the other universes are somewhat linked and are able to switch at the exact same time. The absolute only way I could think of this maybe happening would be to shoot two particles at each other so every single universe lines up and hits exactly the other one making a switch. I don't think it's possible to ever do this however.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yes and no. As the first page video shows a particle goes threw both slots even tho it is only one somehow, but only the observer can watch it go threw one. Now an observer can watch one meaning if you put a observer on the other side it would observe the same particle go threw the other slots. A observer can only watch one particle at a time meaning that if you want to watch the other one you have than moved the other observer since you can't watch the same thing. So if you were planning on traveling to a different universe the exact "you" in the other would have to be moved since "you" can not coexist. The only way that is possible is if the you in all the other universes are somewhat linked and are able to switch at the exact same time. The absolute only way I could think of this maybe happening would be to shoot two particles at each other so every single universe lines up and hits exactly the other one making a switch. I don't think it's possible to ever do this however.

No it wouldn't you'd moved to a new/different time line that you probably created that is a seperate entity from the time line you were originally on, thus you would be able to coexist with another you on this "new" time line. The other you isn't doing exactly what you've done on your original line, where you got the idea that all parallel yous are doing the same thing is something you need to show us on this thread, cause that's just not true as far as what I've learned. Watch the video below and hopefully you'll get it.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I really can't see how these Hypothetical and Unproven Theories make sense and use .
People Die ,then they are reborn and go to Heaven or Hell ,why is there a need to Prove otherwise ??

I am a bit surprised by the number of people who (Do not)believe in God though (But that ain't my business I guess)

Just my 2 cents anyway but Most of these Stuff I call BS to be honest

 

[AlexGTV]

Quantum theory is the most successful theory ever, so when established physicists say something that seems ridiculous it is because of the incomprehensible behaviour of the quantum world. Now, since the quantum world is the foundation of our reality, why we perceive it to be so different?

Probably the bizzare nature of quantum mechanisms enables consciousness. Whether or not these immortality theories stand, quantum theory could answer the riddle of consciousness. Is it universal or only a property of life, are there levels of consciousness as it seems the case, is the brain the only conscious agent?

My feeling is we await a future where most of these questions will be resolved to a great degree and our current theories will seem as antiquated as we see Aristotles and Platos theories of the world today.

 

[shmogt]

No it wouldn't you'd moved to a new/different time line that you probably created that is a seperate entity from the time line you were originally on, thus you would be able to coexist with another you on this "new" time line. The other you isn't doing exactly what you've done on your original line, where you got the idea that all parallel yous are doing the same thing is something you need to show us on this thread, cause that's just not true as far as what I've learned. Watch the video below and hopefully you'll get it.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnkE2yQPw6s">YouTube Link</a>

I told you what I'm referring to isn't totally based on what this is saying however there are many theories as to what can actually happen. Personally it is impossible to warp time like that guy in the video is saying since time never stops. You would have to stop your entire universe to stop spinning which you can't do. I believe it's more of the video on the first page about how you can only travel in straight lines meaning moving forward only. Other universes can do the same obviously so you could move the two universes lines to collide with one another but the depth of the line would be different. Going back in time is impossible you can only move forward however going forward could be to a universe which isn't as far along making it appear to actually visit the past, but it's the same time just the start is different. Think like a 200yard dash and 100yard dash that has the same finish line. The 200 one will start sooner making that person older than the 100 person. If this was universe of course.

This new theory about the suicide thing doesn't matter because in one you die while the other your alive. Your not able to go to any others to check. It's kind of like in the matrix where the lady who knows everything says to neo watch the vase and he bumps it and it breaks and he says sorry. She than says would of you broken it if I didn't say anything tho? In another universe maybe she said nothing and he didn't break it. Yes it's cool to think about it, but irrelevant if you can't go back and check. Even in this theory you can go to other universe which are not yours so even if he didn't break the vase in that one who cares because the one he is in it did break.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I told you what I'm referring to isn't totally based on what this is saying however there are many theories as to what can actually happen. Personally it is impossible to warp time like that guy in the video is saying since time never stops. You would have to stop your entire universe to stop spinning which you can't do. I believe it's more of the video on the first page about how you can only travel in straight lines meaning moving forward only. Other universes can do the same obviously so you could move the two universes lines to collide with one another but the depth of the line would be different. Going back in time is impossible you can only move forward however going forward could be to a universe which isn't as far along making it appear to actually visit the past, but it's the same time just the start is different. Think like a 200yard dash and 100yard dash that has the same finish line. The 200 one will start sooner making that person older than the 100 person. If this was universe of course.

This new theory about the suicide thing doesn't matter because in one you die while the other your alive. Your not able to go to any others to check. It's kind of like in the matrix where the lady who knows everything says to neo watch the vase and he bumps it and it breaks and he says sorry. She than says would of you broken it if I didn't say anything tho? In another universe maybe she said nothing and he didn't break it. Yes it's cool to think about it, but irrelevant if you can't go back and check. Even in this theory you can go to other universe which are not yours so even if he didn't break the vase in that one who cares because the one he is in it did break.

I see what you mean finally, at times I thought you were trying to dispute quantum physics. Which is something I'm willing to defend.

 

[shmogt]

I see what you mean finally, at times I thought you were trying to dispute quantum physics. Which is something I'm willing to defend.

Lol ya I was getting that. I was trying to tell what I wanted to say but a subject like this which is already super confusing makes it a lot harder.

 

[Omnis]

"George, we have a big physics problem here."
"God damn it, Gerald! Get David on the line and tell him we need Michio Kaku in studio ASAP!"

 

[DG_Silva]

I could edit it if you want. Anyway, I like Liverpool.

Why? Do you make the bricks they use to prop the cars up with when they nick the alloys?

 

[hampus_dh]

I really can't see how these Hypothetical and Unproven Theories make sense and use .
People Die ,then they are reborn and go to Heaven or Hell ,why is there a need to Prove otherwise ??

I am a bit surprised by the number of people who (Do not)believe in God though (But that ain't my business I guess)

Just my 2 cents anyway but Most of these Stuff I call BS to be honest

Always fascinating to see how religion can screw people´s brain up.

 

[orimarc]

No. If hell exists it's a room where you can only think of stuff like this. No happy/exciting/suggestive thoughts. Just thinking about multiverses and death all day long.

 

[TankAss95]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc8VhknC7Uc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Could someone explain the above video very clearly so that I can understand what the guy is trying to say please? I think it is relative to this discussion, too.

 

[Techy]

^^

I'm no physicist or scientist or anything, but I think I know what he's trying to say. It's pretty much what this thread is talking about, like you said. I'll take a one line he covered:

"Because they're already existing an infinite number of parallel earth's each with a different vibration representative of a different reality. And the vibration you change to will determine which you experience that already contains the people that are already germane to that vibration."

On the first part, he says that they are an infinite no. of parallel earth's with a different vibration, whereas vibration is I think the choice you make, and each one has their own vibration. Then he says the vibration is a representative of a different reality, which means the same parallel vibrations will remain the same in a different reality or earth.
On the second part, he says that the vibration you choose will determine what you experience that contains things germane* to that vibration. What he's saying right here is that if you change to a new vibration, it will determine what will happen in that vibration. And since each parallel vibration represents of a different reality, the outcomes is indefinite. And the people on the same vibration will not change.
Then he compared it to a TV, switching programs. As you switch programs, the one you were previously on, you can no longer interact with it. The one you switch on now is the one you are able to interact, but not change. The contents of that program is germane to that program. If the same contents changes, then you'll be interacting with a version of them that previously existed whom is germane to that same program.


I'm not doing the rest since I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. But feel free to correct me




*Relevant.

 

[shmogt]

^^

I'm no physicist or scientist or anything, but I think I know what he's trying to say. It's pretty much what this thread is talking about, like you said. I'll take a one line he covered:

"Because they're already existing an infinite number of parallel earth's each with a different vibration representative of a different reality. And the vibration you change to will determine which you experience that already contains the people that are already germane to that vibration."

On the first part, he says that they are an infinite no. of parallel earth's with a different vibration, whereas vibration is I think the choice you make, and each one has their own vibration. Then he says the vibration is a representative of a different reality, which means the same parallel vibrations will remain the same in a different reality or earth.
On the second part, he says that the vibration you choose will determine what you experience that contains things germane* to that vibration. What he's saying right here is that if you change to a new vibration, it will determine what will happen in that vibration. And since each parallel vibration represents of a different reality, the outcomes is indefinite. And the people on the same vibration will not change.
Then he compared it to a TV, switching programs. As you switch programs, the one you were previously on, you can no longer interact with it. The one you switch on now is the one you are able to interact, but not change. The contents of that program is germane to that program. If the same contents changes, then you'll be interacting with a version of them that previously existed whom is germane to that same program.

I'm not doing the rest since I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. But feel free to correct me

*Relevant.

Lol nice someone explained what I was going to say. Saves me from typing it. Check out the first page on this thread and watch those videos they explain it a lot easier than I could.

 

[Techy]

Lol nice someone explained what I was going to say. Saves me from typing it. Check out the first page on this thread and watch those videos they explain it a lot easier than I could.

So I am right?

 

[shmogt]

So I am right?

This stuff is so confusing I remember every time I posted before even I was a little confused of I was saying the right things. What you said is what I got out of it and explained how I thought also. So I'm pretty sure your right.

 

[TankAss95]

I'm not sure wether this is correct or not but I think scientists managed teleportation by using the theory of quantum physics. It's supposed to be that if you are not observing matter, the atoms are no longer stationary but instead everywhere.
Please don't take none of this as fact. If someone could clear this up then I would be grateful.