I'm Looking for a Drift Coach...
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- quaralis
- Quantum Pi
Hey I am interested in learning to drift as well, I think I now how to do it on my wheel but my car setup is off. But maybe I am mistaken. PM me. my psn- quaralis
Thanks.
FYI head set is broken but new one is on the way
Thanks.
FYI head set is broken but new one is on the way
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- SKOT_FREE
I'll give you both advice. Roll stock everything and learn from that point! what you want to Focus on is Entry speed, Breaking Traction, starting with E-Brake, and proper line taking. Also Throttle control and Counter steer! Only after you master all that would I start messing with settings! As you get faster upgrade Your Tires for better control. If you have a high HP car, lower the power until u learn control!
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Start racing with people on comfort hard tires. A drift entry speed is near same as a racing speed. If you can't stay on track racing then you have very little chance of staying on track drifting.
I do recommend tuning. You want to use L.S.D tuning only for now. Still buy all the parts if you want though. This one item can make or break weather or not you can keep the car manageable. Every driver has a style and not every car fits that out of the box and no one car works for everyone. My cars won't work for you and another drifters car may not work for me. I personally like a yellowbird because the insane oversteer but I can also drift in almost anything with an adjustable LSD and transfer case on AWD cars. AWD RR MR FR High or low power doesn't matter to me. Can take all corners almost the same with some minor tuning and minor adjustments to my driving style. But with only the LSD I can change any RWD car to fit me.
Tuning the Limitied slip diffrential *L.S.D*
Braking.
This will decide how fast the car changes direction off throttle. (Engine braking)
Think snapback over correction. Throttle control was mentioned so do remember this is only effective when OFF the gas.
EX: Taking a left turn in a drift and the car suddenly points right because you let go of the gas, Find a lower value that lets you change directions smoothly or lets you continue sliding the same angle off the gas if thats what you need. Higher number if it doesn't turn back at all or lower if it does a 180.
Acceleration
Again only effective while ON the gas
This will decide how much more angle the throttle will add when your sliding while on the gas. If the drift is stalling while on the gas then add more here. If your doing 180's or donuts take some out.
Initial torque.
+Plus reduces the response of accel/braking effect.
-Minus Increases the response of accel/braking effect.
This is only in effect when changing from full throttle to no throttle or the other way around. Use this if it takes to long to change from the braking effect to throttle effect or if it changes to quickly.
Side note: Applying the brakes(Lighting up tail lights) does not count for any of the LSD settings. Use your brake balance controller to help there.
I can't just give you numbers for the a car. Every driver controls throttle and steering differently. That's why my numbers could work for some people but some decent drifters would find my numbers hard to handle. Works both ways. So buy up a car you want to drift in because they all work and buy the parts to get the power you like. There are no cookie cutters to drifting. Id say 400hp turbo is a nice friendly number to drift on. NA/supercharger can stall while changing gears mid corner where a turbo would get back in boost. I would also avoid the bird for now as it can be a handful. But do feel free to buy all the items "you want" including transmission and suspension when you choose your car. FR is recommended to start because your learning some traits of a 10/90 AWD and some traits of an MR/RR so moving to those later will be easier. It's your ride it's your choice so drive what you like, Not what your told.
Now choose a dedicated home track that has many types of corners for drifting. Most original tracks work well here. Race it on comfort hards till your satisfied with your performance. Learn entry speeds. Proper racing lines and above all else stay on track.
Start attempting to drift, Keep in mind what your doing with the throttle when you mess up so you know what setting is working against your driving style and whats working for you. Do not mix a bad initial torque setting up with an accel or braking setting. Once your drifting every corner then you can branch out to new tracks and learn them very quickly.
Ive added you. Will see if I can catch you online and help you out a little more.
I do recommend tuning. You want to use L.S.D tuning only for now. Still buy all the parts if you want though. This one item can make or break weather or not you can keep the car manageable. Every driver has a style and not every car fits that out of the box and no one car works for everyone. My cars won't work for you and another drifters car may not work for me. I personally like a yellowbird because the insane oversteer but I can also drift in almost anything with an adjustable LSD and transfer case on AWD cars. AWD RR MR FR High or low power doesn't matter to me. Can take all corners almost the same with some minor tuning and minor adjustments to my driving style. But with only the LSD I can change any RWD car to fit me.
Tuning the Limitied slip diffrential *L.S.D*
Braking.
This will decide how fast the car changes direction off throttle. (Engine braking)
Think snapback over correction. Throttle control was mentioned so do remember this is only effective when OFF the gas.
EX: Taking a left turn in a drift and the car suddenly points right because you let go of the gas, Find a lower value that lets you change directions smoothly or lets you continue sliding the same angle off the gas if thats what you need. Higher number if it doesn't turn back at all or lower if it does a 180.
Acceleration
Again only effective while ON the gas
This will decide how much more angle the throttle will add when your sliding while on the gas. If the drift is stalling while on the gas then add more here. If your doing 180's or donuts take some out.
Initial torque.
+Plus reduces the response of accel/braking effect.
-Minus Increases the response of accel/braking effect.
This is only in effect when changing from full throttle to no throttle or the other way around. Use this if it takes to long to change from the braking effect to throttle effect or if it changes to quickly.
Side note: Applying the brakes(Lighting up tail lights) does not count for any of the LSD settings. Use your brake balance controller to help there.
I can't just give you numbers for the a car. Every driver controls throttle and steering differently. That's why my numbers could work for some people but some decent drifters would find my numbers hard to handle. Works both ways. So buy up a car you want to drift in because they all work and buy the parts to get the power you like. There are no cookie cutters to drifting. Id say 400hp turbo is a nice friendly number to drift on. NA/supercharger can stall while changing gears mid corner where a turbo would get back in boost. I would also avoid the bird for now as it can be a handful. But do feel free to buy all the items "you want" including transmission and suspension when you choose your car. FR is recommended to start because your learning some traits of a 10/90 AWD and some traits of an MR/RR so moving to those later will be easier. It's your ride it's your choice so drive what you like, Not what your told.
Now choose a dedicated home track that has many types of corners for drifting. Most original tracks work well here. Race it on comfort hards till your satisfied with your performance. Learn entry speeds. Proper racing lines and above all else stay on track.
Start attempting to drift, Keep in mind what your doing with the throttle when you mess up so you know what setting is working against your driving style and whats working for you. Do not mix a bad initial torque setting up with an accel or braking setting. Once your drifting every corner then you can branch out to new tracks and learn them very quickly.
Ive added you. Will see if I can catch you online and help you out a little more.
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- im_remi
Make sure you dont get a BMW, they're a beast to control for beginners.
I suggest u get a silvia s15 and start out on the dark forest or tsukuba. Use comfort hards and tweak only suspension.
That gives you easy start.
Im no beginner anymore, and i prefer comfort softs on any car, also i make my tunes all around, i love the more sudden snap and the interesting settings which get me decent speed, lots of smoke, hard but very fun to control car. I suggest u try something like that up when drifting gets boring for u
I suggest u get a silvia s15 and start out on the dark forest or tsukuba. Use comfort hards and tweak only suspension.
That gives you easy start.
Im no beginner anymore, and i prefer comfort softs on any car, also i make my tunes all around, i love the more sudden snap and the interesting settings which get me decent speed, lots of smoke, hard but very fun to control car. I suggest u try something like that up when drifting gets boring for u
Interesting. I usually keep the LSD original (non-adjustable) and tune everything else (height, camber, spring rates, ARB, etc.) around it. The original LSD settings of legitimate drift cars are usually fine. I only drift FR and RR (Ruf) cars.
I tune the front camber so that the car drifts to the direction of the countersteer and react to smooth steering and accelerator adjustments to manage a corner.
I tune the rear camber so that the rear tires acheive full grip (flat on the gound) on the desired drift angle and keep that angle even when I reach the rev limiter on the appropriate gear. This prevents the car from spinning even if you mess up the accelerator (helpful for beginners). The combination of height, spring settings, and camber all contribute to the equation. Spring stiffness determines how fast the car transitions while drifting.
BTW, this is for wheel drifting. I don't drift on DS3.
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- Willfred_1
i don't know whether people would agree but i think ur a better drifter if you can eaily drift a stock car with standard tires as i don't see why u need to modify the cars as i drift well with a gt tuned 380 nissan on its standard tires so don't spend lots of money on setups if u don't want to as drifting stock can be more fun
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A full suspension tune is good but for a beginner the LSD makes the biggest change to the cars handling and is very easy to understand what needs changing. 3 easy to read/feel settings vs 14 suspension settings that all do different things. Some hard to notice and many ways to make things worse if you don't know what your trying to accomplish with suspension.
If you understand suspension then ya move ahead to that after adjusting LSD.
But like I said no car is a cookie cutter. Silvia may be friendly to the masses but there are drivers who won't understand its handling. LSD gives you freedom to get closer to the handling you like.
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- Tehran
- smjbj
can someone tell us if its actually makes a diffrenece if you use Automatic or manual transmission?!
if you have to do manual.. what should you exactly do
edit: all i hear is comfort hard tires.. i tried them with my labo it worked very well actually it was the first time i could drift in this game ... but isnt comfort hard just for drifting? i mean cant you choose sports hard to balance the things out a little?!
if you have to do manual.. what should you exactly do
edit: all i hear is comfort hard tires.. i tried them with my labo it worked very well actually it was the first time i could drift in this game ... but isnt comfort hard just for drifting? i mean cant you choose sports hard to balance the things out a little?!
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Automatic can get stuck in gear mid corner or it can change gears unexpectedly causing loss of drift or control so Manual transmission is better. When changing up gears while sliding you want to back off the counter steer a little. Changing down gears you want a little more counter steer. Knowing when it's going to happen is why manual is the way to go.
Also Don't ask for help then rage/quit. My long post told you WHY you spun into a wall gogatrs so adjust the setting to FIX it. Chances are you let go of the gas and the braking LSD setting is too loose to stay sliding. You have everything you need in this thread to learn so just relax. It's a skill and it does take time to learn any skill.
Also Don't ask for help then rage/quit. My long post told you WHY you spun into a wall gogatrs so adjust the setting to FIX it. Chances are you let go of the gas and the braking LSD setting is too loose to stay sliding. You have everything you need in this thread to learn so just relax. It's a skill and it does take time to learn any skill.
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- Tehran
- smjbj
tnx mate but im not the thread starter i just found this thread so i didnt quit
:tup:👍i just found out i shoudnt slide or drift with the lambo since its not actually drifting. i althou i dont care i just want to look cool & be a little bit faster lol:tup:
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Was talking to gogatrs. Spins out in the first 2 corners which is the goal. Ok of the 3 settings what caused you to spin out?.... I don't know what his throttle was doing
Quit/offline. Didn't even attempt to make any effort to use any tips given to him or make a single adjustment to the LSD.
Quit/offline. Didn't even attempt to make any effort to use any tips given to him or make a single adjustment to the LSD.
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Bad timing for a power outage lol I would have known it wasn't rage/quit if we had mic's on but my mic was on the charger and you didn't have yours on.
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