Iraq: How do we get out?

Omnis
Did you guys see the new Wikileaks footage of the Reuters journalists getting murdered? Makes me sick.
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I couldn't finish the video. The rage within couldn't be contained.
 
You know what these "smart" politicians and generals and much of my fellow Americans don't realize that these types of acts help breed "terrorism" from our viewpoint.

You reap what you sow.
 
Just bury a nuke or ten in the ground and say they belong to Saddam.
 
We will always be in Iraq (I was there 09') It has quited down alot. the infrastructure and time and money we have put over there is too much to walk away from. We will slowly start turning over security to back to iraq but we will stay in a few bases for as long as I can tell. Much like Korea but to provide stability in the golf. In a best case senario Iraq will look alittle like saudi arabia
 
allent2
In a best case senario Iraq will look alittle like saudi arabia
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Wow... if that's the best case scenario, I dread to think what a worst case scenario would look like. So much for freedom and democracy!
 
Touring Mars
Wow... if that's the best case scenario, I dread to think what a worst case scenario would look like.
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It would probably be a smoking radioactive crater.
 
Well, the war in Iraq is over as the last combat troops left, there will still be soldiers there for training though.

KHABARI CROSSING, Kuwait – As their convoy reached the barbed wire at the border crossing out of Iraq on Wednesday, the soldiers whooped and cheered. Then they scrambled out of their stifling hot armored vehicles, unfurled an American flag and posed for group photos.

For these troops of the 4th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, it was a moment of relief fraught with symbolism. Seven years and five months after the U.S.-led invasion, the last American combat brigade was leaving Iraq, well ahead of President Barack Obama's Aug. 31 deadline for ending U.S. combat operations there.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: The 4th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division was officially designated the last combat brigade to leave Iraq under Obama's plan to end combat operations in Iraq by Aug. 31. Associated Press writer Rebecca Santana joined the troops on their final journey out of the country.
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Justin
Well, the war in Iraq is over as the last combat troops left, there will still be soldiers there for training though.


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Sadly the conflict in Iraq was never officially declared and therefore we'll never know when it actually is over. Considering we've left troops in the country I assume that the conflict is not over.
 
Keef
Sadly the conflict in Iraq was never officially declared and therefore we'll never know when it actually is over. Considering we've left troops in the country I assume that the conflict is not over.
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We have never completely left anywhere that we have had a military conflict with, we still have troops in South Korea from the Korean War(obviously not the same ones), have a base in Germany and I'm sure there are others.
 
Justin
We have never completely left anywhere that we have had a military conflict with, we still have troops in South Korea from the Korean War(obviously not the same ones)
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The Korean War (with repsect to American involvement) was never declared by congress as a war should be. The government even described it as a police action. It never started, it never ended. As a matter of fact the last time Congress officially declared a war as required by the Constitution was when we entered World War 2. Ever since then not a single conflict has been been declared properly, including Korea. My point stands. When we never officially start a war they never officially end. It almost seems like our government does it on purpose, doesn't it?
 
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Maybe that guy was on to something?
 
Keef
The Korean War (with repsect to American involvement) was never declared by congress as a war should be. The government even described it as a police action. It never started, it never ended. As a matter of fact the last time Congress officially declared a war as required by the Constitution was when we entered World War 2. Ever since then not a single conflict has been been declared properly, including Korea. My point stands. When we never officially start a war they never officially end. It almost seems like our government does it on purpose, doesn't it?
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And it's horribly awful. The U.N. needs to look at this and step in. I don't know how they will do this, but it needs to be done. With the last combat troops, it is a small victory. But this doesn't mean the U.S. won't have small numbers of troops in Iraq. They won't be combat-oriented, but they will be there to collect intel and other small tasks. It worries me that America is ruining its own country while it tries to help others. We have an ailing econmy, and a lot of other home land problems, and they orient it on foriegn policy. This will be the only thing that President Obama will be congratulated for. It hurts to know this, but unfortunately, it's true.
 
YSSMAN
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Maybe that guy was on to something?
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I wouldn't call expanding New Deal programs necessarily a good thing, but whatever. He never bothered to get our troops out of Korea, and he allowed meddling in the Vietnam situation by lending them US military advisors. But yeah, at least he opposed a conflict.
 
Keef
I wouldn't call expanding New Deal programs necessarily a good thing, but whatever. He never bothered to get our troops out of Korea, and he allowed meddling in the Vietnam situation by lending them US military advisors. But yeah, at least he opposed a conflict.
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Other than stiffing the British at Suez, the best part of Ike's presidency was his leaving of it, i.e., his famous farewell address when he admonished against the military-industrial complex. Of course nobody listened, as John Foster Dulles and his spooky brother Allen actually ran the US government for the most part. GTP enthusiasts and other open road drivers will want to note Ike bequeathed us the national freeway system as his principle positive accomplishment.

Of course America became a global Empire when McKinley embarked upon war with Cuba and Spain, famously "winning" the Philippines. The US has become a true hegemon since then, with the President unconstitutionally running foreign policy and wars, the supine and corrupt Congress having abandoned its proper duties.

The war in Iraq is not won and its not over.
 
Keef
I wouldn't call expanding New Deal programs necessarily a good thing, but whatever. He never bothered to get our troops out of Korea, and he allowed meddling in the Vietnam situation by lending them US military advisors. But yeah, at least he opposed a conflict.
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Oh, ha ha, I was referring to his Farewell Address where he referred to the Military Industrial Complex and how we need to avoid having it control the future affairs of the United States. Otherwise, you're on the right track.
 
 

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