Is the Genesis X Gr 3 going to be the first (and only?) electric Gr 3/4 car in Gran Turismo?

[Magog]

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If so will all that electric torque give it an advantage over all the ICE cars? 🤔

 

[mwoodski]

They'll put an ICE in it fir the Gr3.

 

[Magog]

They'll put an ICE in it fir the Gr3.

A few years ago, maybe. But in 2022? Electric is the future.

 

[mwoodski]

A few years ago, maybe. But in 2022? Electric is the future.

It's a fictional car set to compete against the other cars in its same ruleset in the game.

Much like the Citroen when it moved to Gr3, it'll get a gas engine.

 

[tankuroded]

It's a fictional car set to compete against the other cars in its same ruleset in the game.

Much like the Citroen when it moved to Gr3, it'll get a gas engine.

Because it was based on the real-life replica that had an gasoline engine and Citroen planned to sell (GT by Citroen Road Car), rather than the game-only electric concept (GT by Citroen Concept).

 

[Magog]

It's a fictional car set to compete against the other cars in its same ruleset in the game.

Much like the Citroen when it moved to Gr3, it'll get a gas engine.

The real life Citroen GT was always ICE.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_by_Citroën

Also this isn't 2008 anymore.

 

[mwoodski]

Because it was based on the real-life replica that had an gasoline engine and Citroen planned to sell (GT by Citroen Road Car), rather than the game-only electric concept (GT by Citroen Concept).

We can also look at the Audi VGT being an electric car in GrX and a petrol powered hybrid in Gr1.

 

[Magog]

We can also look at the Audi VGT being an electric car in GrX and a petrol powered hybrid in Gr1.

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Hyundai has completly shuttered their ICE engine development team of 12,000 employees. I don't think they will agree to have it be an ICE vehicle.

 

[daan]

It has an exhaust.

 

[05XR8]

Well, that ends that.

 

[George Jakob]

A few years ago, maybe. But in 2022? Electric is the future.

That dosen't matter,GR.3 follows FIA GT3 rules so unless GT3 allows electric motors it won't be electric anytime soon.

 

[05XR8]

That dosen't matter,GR.3 follows FIA GT3 rules so unless GT3 allows electric motors it won't be electric anytime soon.

Might be following “Gr.3” rules, if that FIA are dropped.

 

[Magog]

That dosen't matter,GR.3 follows FIA GT3 rules so unless GT3 allows electric motors it won't be electric anytime soon.

The exhaust seems to confirm that. Then again if the FIA really are out of the picture plans could change.

 

[Doomotron]

That dosen't matter,GR.3 follows FIA GT3 rules so unless GT3 allows electric motors it won't be electric anytime soon.

That said, the open-top GTI VGT doesn't conform to GT3 regulations. But since the car has an exhaust, it doesn't really matter.

 

[George Jakob]

Might be following “Gr.3” rules, if that FIA are dropped.

They kinda already do Cough VW VGT Cough.

The exhaust seems to confirm that. Then again if the FIA really are out of the picture plans could change.

I doubt it given that electric cars can't losr energy in GT Sport.

 

[05XR8]

They kinda already do Cough VW VGT Cough.

I doubt it given that electric cars can't losr energy in GT Sport.

I’d probably point more to the wacky Peugeot VGT. The VW is based on a real world(concept) car. Same with the RX-V and few others. Hey, Lotus made an open top GT4 racer.

 

[Silver Arrows]

OP on a crusade to make threads that could have been contained in a general discussion thread. I'd appreciate the hustle if it wasn't so weird.

It has an exhaust.

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Stick a fork in 'er.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Electric drivetrains aren't allowed in either category so no, it won't happen. Discussion closed.

 

[mwoodski]

OP on a crusade to make threads that could have been contained in a general discussion thread. I'd appreciate the hustle if it wasn't so weird.



Stick a fork in 'er.

When I made my initial responses I didn't know there were pictures of the car, nor see this dudes other threads and I feel bad now that I engaged lmao.

 

[XSquareStickIt]

I very highly doubt an EV would ever be in Gr. 3. All Nations and Manu faces always have fuel consumption turned on, and currently, EVs don't have their battery life simulated in GTS, meaning they'll never need to pit for "fuel". Even if the battery life is simulated, EVs cannot "refuel" quickly in the pits. I think most production EVs require at least 20 minutes for a quick charge with a specialised charging station. You could fill up a GT3's 100ℓ tank in just over 14 seconds if you use the default 7ℓ/s rate.

I know the Audi e-tron proves otherwise, but most EVs really don't have the top speed to be viable in Gr. 3. The Taycan, even with 2 gears, tops out at 264km/h. I don't remember if the Model S can even break 200.

 

[GBalao888]

The Genesis X Gr. 3 will have to be completely redesigned purely with an ICE (likely the same engine as the G70, a V6 twin-turbo, only to handle around 500 to 600hp, and with no hybrid system, hybrids are illegal in modern GT racing), and that it will have to be rear-wheel drive (all-wheel drive drivetrains are illegal in Gr. 3) and with a race-spec six or seven-speed gearbox.

Even if the original car was an electric-powered concept, the racing version has to meet regulations similar to either FIA GT1, GT2, GT3, GTE/GTLM and so on, as that is the basis for Gr. 3.

 

[tankuroded]

(all-wheel drive drivetrains are illegal in Gr. 3)

inb4 they bends that over to allow the Bugatti EB110 GT1/LM, Audi 80 IMSA GTO, or Porsche 961 to enter Gr.3 though...

 

[Epic B]

I very highly doubt an EV would ever be in Gr. 3. All Nations and Manu faces always have fuel consumption turned on, and currently, EVs don't have their battery life simulated in GTS, meaning they'll never need to pit for "fuel". Even if the battery life is simulated, EVs cannot "refuel" quickly in the pits. I think most production EVs require at least 20 minutes for a quick charge with a specialised charging station. You could fill up a GT3's 100ℓ tank in just over 14 seconds if you use the default 7ℓ/s rate.

I know the Audi e-tron proves otherwise, but most EVs really don't have the top speed to be viable in Gr. 3. The Taycan, even with 2 gears, tops out at 264km/h. I don't remember if the Model S can even break 200.

Just for the sake of making EVs more competitive, I wish EVs could get transmission upgrades and the ability to "recharge" in the pits at the same rate as combustion vehicles can refuel. Even without power upgrades these changes would be enough for me.

 

[Magog]

Just for the sake of making EVs more competitive, I wish EVs could get transmission upgrades and the ability to "recharge" in the pits at the same rate as combustion vehicles can refuel. Even without power upgrades these changes would be enough for me.

Fairly certain there race series where they do battery swaps in the pits or at least there have been plans for that.

 

[Epic B]

Fairly certain there race series where they do battery swaps in the pits or at least there have been plans for that.

I just meant in GT land. I don't care if it isn't super realistic, I just want electric vehicles in Gran Turismo to have proper transmission upgrades and recharging.

 

[Dave A]

Fairly certain there race series where they do battery swaps in the pits or at least there have been plans for that.

A battery swap happened in the 25hr of Thunderhill, the swap apparently took around 2 minutes. Formula E have dabbled with battery cartridge swaps as well. It'd be interesting if they cold simulate this in GT, but obviousely, the car in question has to be designed to accommodate a quick battery swap as well. It really is a lot more complicated than just refueling, maybe not something Polyphony would commit to, but it'd be a neat addition if they did.

 

[George Jakob]

I’d probably point more to the wacky Peugeot VGT. The VW is based on a real world(concept) car. Same with the RX-V and few others. Hey, Lotus made an open top GT4 racer.

I don't know why everyone hates the Peugeot at least it has a closed top . I did some research on the Lotus and besides not being fully open top as you can see here

it was made for the GT4 Sportlight/Supersport subdivision (2007-2010).

Fairly certain there race series where they do battery swaps in the pits or at least there have been plans for that.

That was Formula E until 2018.

I wish EVs could get the ability to "recharge" in the pits at the same rate as combustion vehicles can refuel.

It was possible in GT5/6 if i recall correctly.

 

[Imari]

Just for the sake of making EVs more competitive, I wish EVs could get transmission upgrades and the ability to "recharge" in the pits at the same rate as combustion vehicles can refuel. Even without power upgrades these changes would be enough for me.

I wish they'd just make an EV race Group. Use the VGT program or something to get manufacturers to design a bunch of GT3-ish EVs, magic up some supercapacitivehighpressureflywheelbatterytrons that charge to full in 30-60 seconds and call it a day. It'd be ********, but at least it'd be ******** in the name of making an interesting class of cars a viable racing series.

 

[05XR8]

I don't know why everyone hates the Peugeot at least it has a closed top . I did some research on the Lotus and besides not being fully open top as you can see hereView attachment 1102544
it was made for the GT4 Sportlight/Supersport subdivision (2007-2010).

That was Formula E until 2018.

It was possible in GT5/6 if i recall correctly.

Think I used the VGT a couple times in Sport Mode, but over and over each time I restarted my game, as it‘s the car used for the Sardegna Circuit Experience. I mainly didn’t choose it because I prefer interior view.

 

[George Jakob]

Think I used the VGT a couple times in Sport Mode, but over and over each time I restarted my game, as it‘s the car used for the Sardegna Circuit Experience. I mainly didn’t choose it because I prefer interior view.

Fair enough.