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[Johnnypenso]

All the cars in Forza are designed to look waxed.

Believe it or not but a waxed car can definitely resemble shiny plastic, that doesn't mean it is shiny plastic.

Beat me to it. In Forza cars look like they've just had a few coats of waxed put on them.

 

[7HO]

From what I've seen, in Forza cars look "plastified" to me, don't know if it's the lighting engine, if it's the textures, but they look kind of weird to me. Someone with PCars will be able to compare both games, but from what I've heard, they look good at the same level, that maybe one looks better in some things and the other in others. So yeah, the only game that clearly beats GTS and all it's competitors is Driveclub, the rest is pretty much even between them.

But then, if it was only focused on racing, a great percentage of the players wouldn't bother to buy it. A great part of the GT fanbase comprises casual players, who don't have time to invest in the game so they can be "professional" sim racers. Then, you have those that don't have enough money to buy a wheel. Some of them play these games just because they love cars, to drive some of their dream cars, etc. The moment you scrap road cars from a GT game, you loose a huge part of the community.

It seems to me that you are judging Forza from videos. Find somewhere you can play it and you will see it looks amazing. IMO Forza is overdone and too crowded with all the extra stuff they had and at times looks too pretty but it really looks incredible and is one of the best looking racing games out there on any platform, and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Forza. At the moment they all clearly beat GTS, have you seen the gameplay videos? GTS looks like a turd currently. No doubt it will get better but your statement is incorrect.

I'm not sure why you think I am saying GTS will be or should be focussed only on racing. Of course there will be and should be more to it. The photo mode is something I have no interest in but some people seem to be excited over it and I don't have a problem with that. As for the don't have money to buy a wheel, that statement isn't logical. If you can afford a PS4 and a brand new copy of GT then you can afford a cheap wheel, maybe not on the same day but you can afford it just like you worked out how to afford the PS4 and the expensive games. My wheel and pedals new were half the price of a PS4.

If people love the cars and want to drive their dream cars surely they want to drive the realistic representation. What would you prefer to drive, a Porsche GT3 RS or a VW with a Porsche body kit?

And I never suggested that they get rid of road cars. Once again just because I have no interest in them doesn't mean that I don't think they should be included.

My point with that comment was the defining part of GTS is the esports, the question is will GT esports be arcade or sim?

Last gen GT was miles ahead of anything of its time. In fact I would say the attention to detail is still right up there will current games if not more



Sure the GTS trailer was not OMFG. Infact from the newer build available from day2, day3. It was better than the trailer videos, Green hell trees have been updated and in the trailer they were using the older build for gameplay trailer

Let us wait for the dev to add everything. It is still WIP. Hopefully at E3 we will see at least see a more polished trailer. Something like this would be great

No way attention to detail is not close to what is currently available and I'm not talking about the trailer, I'm talking about the recent game play footage from GTP and from the FIA championship testing. And I am not interested in trailers, I am only interested in actual game play not some cinematic garbage that sugar coats it.

 

[Nia_VF]

Have you seen Forza lately? I'm pretty confident that Forza and PCARS will both look better and I wouldn't be surprised if Assetto Corsa even looks better.

After playing an early build of GT Sport on Friday I can tell you it already looks a lot better than PCars.

 

[7HO]

After playing an early build of GT Sport on Friday I can tell you it already looks a lot better than PCars.

How is your build better than this or the GTPlanet videos that have now disappeared?

 

[Aggserp4]

Last gen GT was miles ahead of anything of its time. In fact I would say the attention to detail is still right up there will current games if not more



Sure the GTS trailer was not OMFG. Infact from the newer build available from day2, day3. It was better than the trailer videos, Green hell trees have been updated and in the trailer they were using the older build for gameplay trailer

Let us wait for the dev to add everything. It is still WIP. Hopefully at E3 we will see at least see a more polished trailer. Something like this would be great

The pre race screen on the gt5 video looked different!?
GTS might look slightly worse because of the video quality. To me it looks slightly worse than the other Sims but we still got a long time before its launch.

 

[crowhop]

Which GT game looks great? I think none of them look great compared to modern games. I think they all look terrible now and I seriously doubt GTS will look good for anything other than the intros or photo mode which I completely skip.

GT5 looked stunning in 2010. GT6 looked very good in 2013. I don't know what your bent is, but GT games always look great for the hardware of the time. There's no intelligent debate about that. Only intentional ignorance would suggest otherwise.

 

[dacc10]

No, he compares GT6 on PS3 with new gen games...

 

[ImaRobot]

GT5 looked stunning in 2010. GT6 looked very good in 2013. I don't know what your bent is, but GT games always look great for the hardware of the time. There's no intelligent debate about that. Only intentional ignorance would suggest otherwise.

It depends on what someone uses to judge the "looks" of the game. He isn't wrong in saying so if you consider that the games looked very good in certain situations. Throwing a standard car on one of the lower detailed tracks can very much support his opinion.

The game did look beautiful, but just in certain situations, just like the game looks pretty bad in certain situations as well. It's the lack of consistency that bothered me in the past.

 

[mister dog]

If you want to call a game stunning in the graphics department, it needs to be so across the board. Problem with GT since 5 is that you have a mixed bag with one part that looks awesome and the other that looks underwhelming and out of place.

Also with the huge budget they are able to spend it's the least i expect them to come up with.

edit: tree'd by ImaRobot

 

[7HO]

GT5 looked stunning in 2010. GT6 looked very good in 2013. I don't know what your bent is, but GT games always look great for the hardware of the time. There's no intelligent debate about that. Only intentional ignorance would suggest otherwise.

Look is present tense and looked is past tense. I responded to the post where you said

Ditching on GT Sport sighting graphical doubts is going to look foolish. GTS will look great. All GT games look great.

You didn't validate your statement to say they look great when they were released and in 2016 no GT game looks great so as you wrote it your statement was false and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Polyphony can make a better looking game than current games. But there is recent evidence in the videos we have seen to suggest they might not be able to make a better looking game because the recent videos of gameplay we have seen GTS did not look great compared to current games.

 

[Zuku]

Will say to the OP it's probably the bar has been raised. That happened to me made the jump to PC I can't be bothered to come back to anything. What's funny I still have yet to touch Project Cars, DiRT Rally, or Assetto Corsa.

Once you jump to games that do something better it's hard to come back it truly is.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Unfortunately I don't have a lot of interest in the road car selection and I don't think it is all that great as most of the cars I would want to drive are missing and I pretty much stick to the BMW's. I'm into the racing simulation side of things so I'm into race cars and I think the road cars drive rubbish.

I think it is cool that AC has laser scanned tracks but I wish they would put a bit more effort into completing them, I guess you get what you pay for and AC doesn't have the userbase to build great tracks cheap and AC is a cheap game compared to something like IR. Perhaps when it is on console if lots of people buy it they will spend more time to give it more polish. As far as mods go most of them are disappointing, even some of the official content is disappointing

I can tell from this immediately that you are not Assetto's target audience. Kunos created Assetto simply for the joy of driving. That means road cars on normal roads. I bet if they don't have to sell it as a game, they would remove the whole career mode altogether. Pick a car, a track and just DRIVE. That's where AC really shines. For racing, not so much. Also, they are a small team so comparing it to a subscription based system like iRacing is not even fair.

Games like PCARS, iRacing, Raceroom or Automobilista I think will suit your needs much better. That's the beauty of racing games this generation. There are niches to occupy every taste, and they are all pretty good on the physics side! 👍

 

[VXR]

Will say to the OP it's probably the bar has been raised. That happened to me made the jump to PC I can't be bothered to come back to anything. What's funny I still have yet to touch Project Cars, DiRT Rally, or Assetto Corsa.

Once you jump to games that do something better it's hard to come back it truly is.

Eh, I can play Forza 6 and easily jump back to my copy of GT4 and enjoy those graphics as an art direction and that's a high bar between those two games.

 

[Rob192005]

Eh, I can play Forza 6 and easily jump back to my copy of GT4 and enjoy those graphics as an art direction and that's a high bar between those two games.

I do this all the time and even revert back to PSX games,Tekken 3 will NEVER get old.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Eh, I can play Forza 6 and easily jump back to my copy of GT4 and enjoy those graphics as an art direction and that's a high bar between those two games.

Same here. I still appreciate FFVII, too. Though I find GT1 and GT2 a little hard to get back into these days, but it's the combo of frame rate and low-res graphics that does a number on my responses, not anything else. They're still fun games, and fun is something that's increasingly hard to find in the genre these days.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I can tell from this immediately that you are not Assetto's target audience. Kunos created Assetto simply for the joy of driving. That means road cars on normal roads. I bet if they don't have to sell it as a game, they would remove the whole career mode altogether. Pick a car, a track and just DRIVE. That's where AC really shines. For racing, not so much. Also, they are a small team so comparing it to a subscription based system like iRacing is not even fair.

Games like PCARS, iRacing, Raceroom or Automobilista I think will suit your needs much better. That's the beauty of racing games this generation. There are niches to occupy every taste, and they are all pretty good on the physics side! 👍

Well said.👍👍 There is a ton of choice out there especially if you have a pc and and console. No one game is going to meet all your needs but between 2 or 3 I think you can hit all the high points.