Jaguar dead; Cosworth gone
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I think it's sad. I too had expected with the possible pending WRC withdrawal that Ford would be funding their own F1 marque or at least better developing engines to help the lower teams. I guess that's not the case.
Dietrich Mateschitz is one of the people who've expressed an interest in getting into F1, buying a team or heavily funding one. He'd been in talks with Jaguar before this announcement, so we'll see where that goes. To my knowledge Sauber had only filled one race spot for next year with Villeneuve, but I could just be forgetting someone. I thought Luizzi was still in with a chance, he had quite a successful test for the team last week.
Arden International were keen to get into F1 earlier in the year, so perhaps they'll make the jump, but the costs are increasingly astronomical. I don't know how Ferrari manages to keep funding it really. I'd love to see their balance sheet.
Dietrich Mateschitz is one of the people who've expressed an interest in getting into F1, buying a team or heavily funding one. He'd been in talks with Jaguar before this announcement, so we'll see where that goes. To my knowledge Sauber had only filled one race spot for next year with Villeneuve, but I could just be forgetting someone. I thought Luizzi was still in with a chance, he had quite a successful test for the team last week.
Arden International were keen to get into F1 earlier in the year, so perhaps they'll make the jump, but the costs are increasingly astronomical. I don't know how Ferrari manages to keep funding it really. I'd love to see their balance sheet.
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If I am sultan of brunei...or some rich guy...I'll buy Cosworth straightaway.
1. I could make some money developing engines for others.
2. I can use the current F1 engine. i.e. put it in my sports car and use it on track!
Even better, put it in a MPV and use it on public roads(albeit illegally) 👍
If...........that could happen....
1. I could make some money developing engines for others.
2. I can use the current F1 engine. i.e. put it in my sports car and use it on track!
Even better, put it in a MPV and use it on public roads(albeit illegally) 👍
If...........that could happen....
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RacyBacy
Hell yeah, they work like a treat for essays. saved my arse a few times thats for sure.
Dietrich Mateschitz has been saying for a long time that he wants his own f1 team, and this is the best chance he will get. if he doesnt take up this oppotunity, its likely there will never be a red bull f1 team
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chaser_fanPersonally. I have never seen the point of the big manafaturers entering F1. To get the recognition that they want requires coming first and the only manafacturer that is capable of that, to be uite honest, is Ferrari. And how many people can actually afford to buy and run a Ferrari? Not many.
but don't forget, Ferarri was built on the money Enzo Ferarri had from Grand Prix racing. the only reason Enzo sold street cars was so he could fund his racing career. so if he didn't race in GP racing, Ferarri as a car manufacturer would not be around.
so even though I don't like Ferarri completely dominating F1 this year(and probably next few to come), I think it is fitting. a company should be able to master what it was built on. besides, it just like back in the day when Williams dominated. it will start to get interesting when the other teams actually beat the top dog.
rock.
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pupik
Dont forget that Michael Schumachers first f1 championship back in 1994 was a FORD powered Benneton
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I'm not sure Ford know what to do with Jaguar. It has Aston Martin for its luxury end and Jaguar for...err..family saloons, ala X-Type? Hmmm...were they trying to compete with BMW, Audi etc? Why don't they just make the damn F-Type?
This and the very real possibility of no Silverstone in the F1 calander is grim news for motorsports and car manufacturing in the UK.
This and the very real possibility of no Silverstone in the F1 calander is grim news for motorsports and car manufacturing in the UK.
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Thing is, back in the day it used to be Aston Martin, Jaguar, Ferrari and Porsche (with a few others) that were the top European sports cars manfucaturers. Aston Martin and Jaguar were teh British rivals. Both companies cars were aimed at the same market. But since Ford bought them out They've allowed Aston Martin to go for the outright sports cars and GT's and Jaguar..well twidling their thumbs. I always thought Jaguar should of just stuck with making high end performance cars. I knew it was the end when they started making the X-type. It showed that they were also struggling for customers and buyers and had to do something. The S-type imo was a lovely car. But when the X-type came out..well never knew it was gonna be the same. And now with Aston making all teh sports and gt cars what is there for Jaguar to do??? Their range is too limited sadly....
On a side note ford have pulled out of the WRC and F1 so they can concentrate on the Aston Martin project, NASCAR and for CAN-AM (or is it TRANS-AM.......all the same to me) and the American market. Though two things.........I seem to remember seeing an article not too long ago about Jaguar doing an updated XK8??? Like comepltly overhauling it and doing a new one??? I guess that's gone to pot?
Also what ever happened to the SCV8's and the Jaguar SCV8?
Famine you don't kno of any articles about Ford selling Jaguar all together do you?
On a side note ford have pulled out of the WRC and F1 so they can concentrate on the Aston Martin project, NASCAR and for CAN-AM (or is it TRANS-AM.......all the same to me) and the American market. Though two things.........I seem to remember seeing an article not too long ago about Jaguar doing an updated XK8??? Like comepltly overhauling it and doing a new one??? I guess that's gone to pot?
Also what ever happened to the SCV8's and the Jaguar SCV8?
Famine you don't kno of any articles about Ford selling Jaguar all together do you?
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I cant quite remember where i heard this from (i think ND4SPD) but is Jacques Villenueve really racing for Williams F1 in 2005?? If this is true, what/who is Montoya racing for then? (i heard R. Schumy was staying with williams) would he be racing for BAR? Renault? i need clarification!!! Also, about the revisions on the XK8, if you go to the Jaguar website you can order a free catalogue that's mailed directly to your house free of charge (i have 2) and has all the new models. Check it out in January, might have some details and/or pics.
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