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That may be so, but this thing you guys have going on here is nothing short of being an e-bully. And some of you guys are old enough to understand that it's not productive nor entertaining for anyone with some sort of intelligence. You're better than this.. Thus, you should start acting like it.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!! I've repeatedly said I'm here to help, not to tease him. So I am better than this. As I have already said previously, there are several of us who are trying to help, mods and members alike.

Take a look at the diff conversation we've just had in this thread which has been informative to ALL the parties concerned and additional people who had not posted before in the thread which is a good thing in my eyes.

Plus, Parnelli has raised some very good points after being insulted directly, now I know if it was you being insulted you wouldn't hesitate to respond critically either to the person that disrespected you Leo. ;)
 
If you guys believe him to be a troll, why don't you just stop talking to him? Haven't you heard from the phrase "do not feed the trolls?"

As Leonidae said, some of you guys are already old to be playing these kind of games.
And as far as I'm concerned, one of you guys isn't exactly a saint when it comes to insults.
 
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If you guys believe him to be a troll, why don't you just stop talking to him? Haven't you heard from the phrase "do not feed the trolls?"

Never believed him to be a troll, just a very dyslexic poster.

As Leonidae said, some of you guys are already old to be playing these kind of games.
And as far as I'm concerned, one of you guys isn't exactly a saint when it comes to insults.

Care to name who that "one of you guys" is?? :mischievous:
 
Care to name who that "one of you guys" is?? :mischievous:

I would infer that Lucas is probably talking about Parnelli, or Leo. Leo, for past arguments leading to a banning. Parnelli because of his rrather, errr... Unique method of dealing with those not willing to learn. So, taking bets on who Lucas is talking about! Mind you mafs, could be you, what with your threats to introduce people to certain aquatic species ;)
 
I hope you find Jesus, He loves you and he is always waiting. I love you to in the brother of christ. God bless you buddy.

TOURNIQUETFAN
Why thank, you how the fu:censored: do you know if I am taking care of my kids or not? stay in the scope and I won't tell you how que:censored: you sound!

:lol: Interesting parallel....
 
I would infer that Lucas is probably talking about Parnelli, or Leo. Leo, for past arguments leading to a banning. Parnelli because of his rrather, errr... Unique method of dealing with those not willing to learn. So, taking bets on who Lucas is talking about! Mind you mafs, could be you, what with your threats to introduce people to certain aquatic species ;)

They weren't threats, they were promises. You come to Mafia Island and you get to swim with lots and lots of fishies with lots and lots of big teeth. :D:D:D:D:D:lol:
 
If you guys believe him to be a troll, why don't you just stop talking to him? Haven't you heard from the phrase "do not feed the trolls?"

Because like I said, I don't wanna see GTP's GT4 section become over-run by these sorts, the way GT5 and GT5P occasionally get. If we allow one troll to post nonsense, break AUP, etc, why not allow dozens? Imagine the chaotic look this forum would have. I'd personally be embarassed. :embarrassed:

As Leonidae said, some of you guys are already old to be playing these kind of games.

Don't forget to include some of the mods with this observation. 💡

And as far as I'm concerned, one of you guys isn't exactly a saint when it comes to insults.

True. I'm not saint, nor do I profess to be one. But neither am I a troll who curses people out in one thread, then does an about-face under the guise of religious belief in another. Nor do I spend all day creating crappy tunes for a virtual garage (wish I had that sort of free time, though!) while obviously more pressing concerns (kids, education, God knows what else) linger about. I find it sad.

Plenty of people show up here at GTP as New Members who don't have a clue about tuning or cars or whatever. I have total respect for the ones who ask questions with an obvious curiosity,. I have total respect for the ones who are willing to learn. If English is not their first language, I don't mind if they mis-spell words and get their grammar wrong. 💡

On the other hand, I DON'T have any respect for those who show up here posting text-walls, abusing the English language when they're from St. Louis, Missouri, USA, dissing other tuners' rides, acting like they know things which they obviously don't have a clue about, and then trying to put more-intelligent sorts down. I will tell them WHY and HOW I don't respect them. It won't always be pretty. 💡
 
That is all good advice up there, and I respect all of it but obviously Mafia is trying to give me a little help. If no one else cares what cars I post or if I miss some of my typing. Then why do you? Who really is obsessed with this thread? And yes I was at my fathers funeral. If I wasn't then where was I?

I have fallen from grace thy Lord but I have been busy. I got kids to take care of plus my mother is about fifty mins. from here and I want to move down there by her. I have been working on my apartment.

I have always been good at demolition to really get at the computer thing so yeh I guess I am a Troll!
 
Time for me to jump in and I'm not taking sides, but I AM drawing a line for members to cross if they want to get into this conversation and they can do so at their own risk. :mischievous:

Now, on one side, we have Parnelli Bone amongst some other members (I won't name you guys personally) being vocal about Torniquetfan's posting style, his spelling and grammar, amongst other things. Okay, I understand, sympathize and can totally relate to everything you guys have said previously but we've already spoken our pieces about it all, so at the moment let's just let it go and if the mods do something about it then so be it.

The other side is Torniquetfan, who is someone new who wanted to come onto here and make an impact in a good way, but ended up having it backfire by not realising what standards we expect when those members do join up, maybe by by-passing the T's & C's of joining GTPlanet, we do not know and will probably not know. However, he has decided to want to join the tuning ranks and has provided several cars for tuners to drive with and for that you can only commend his efforts so far, no matter whether it's for our driving style or not.

Now, this gets a little more difficult to explain and I'll put it from my personal experience so far. I totally agree with what Parnelli and the others have said about his posting style and while it is atrocious, it's not a cardinal sin as being made out....it is bad, and it may break AUP, but it's not up to us to decide whether he be burned at the stake or not, it's the mods and admins job, that's it. What we should do as members, is NOT to break this guy's balls because we bring ourselves down a level or two by doing so. Hence why I offered to help Torniquetfan because he does need assistance, be it through his typing or his tuning.

So, here's the line and cross it at your own risk people because I've said what needs to be said since I know what's going on from both sides.

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Now, this bit is directly aimed at Torniquetfan. While I'm trying to help you, you need to follow advice a little better than you have been. When I ask you to private message me, it means to private message me, not to leave visitor messages all over the wall. :) When I ask to send me what you've got, then SEND IT TO ME FIRST, not ask me 5 minutes later whether it's done or not when I don't even know what you have changed or tried to arrange in the first place. I get lost quicker than an idiot with no sense of direction & no compass when this happens.

I see the little changes that need to be made to make this a slick looking garage dude with each car's setup's itemised individually, so it makes it easier for you to be able to edit & arrange your original post in a more fashionable manner. If you just allow me to do it later on today (I'm going to bed, it's 4.30am Monday morning here!!) then I can set it up so it looks a hell of a lot better than it currently is and will make it 10 times easier for other members to search out your tunes and to be able to build and drive those cars at a moments notice. So, just listen to my advice dude, I'm really wanting to be on your side, but I can't be if what advice I do give isn't listened to or understood.

So, that's about it guys.......play nice, or Famine and the other mods will get you when you least expect it. :cool:

Mafs!!
 
Man 🤬 all this 🤬 mods got in my 🤬 about cursing the way he did. They had no problems giving me infractions for it,I hope he got infractions not for what he did but the way he wrote it!! Thats straight 🤬!!
 
Man 🤬 all this 🤬 mods got in my 🤬 about cursing the way he did. They had no problems giving me infractions for it,I hope he got infractions not for what he did but the way he wrote it!! Thats straight 🤬!!

Since the Infraction system occurs entirely in private between the Staff and the member in question, no-one but us and TOURNIQUETFAN know if he has received any Infractions or not.

This system is in place for a reason - it's none of your business. You worry about you own conduct and see to it that you don't worry us with it, and let us worry about the conduct of other members.


And yes, I'm always watching this thread.
 
Man 🤬 all this 🤬 mods got in my 🤬 about cursing the way he did. They had no problems giving me infractions for it,I hope he got infractions not for what he did but the way he wrote it!! Thats straight 🤬!!

For once...I TOTALLY agree with you! 👍 :highfive:

That is all good advice up there, and I respect all of it but obviously Mafia is trying to give me a little help. If no one else cares what cars I post or if I miss some of my typing. Then why do you?

I already answered this several times now. Since you missed it (or more likely didn't grasp or ignored it), here it is again: because if nobody cared, we'd have way too many threads being posted that look like this:
Mar 13 2010, 7:22 PM #6


the results will be based on lap runs,the first track will be,Motorland.The first car will be CTR2,by Esatezza motor company;good luck guys!final time;1:54:254,terrible set-up for this track,lots of understeer.next opponent;Maddfin's B-TR,"Blackbird;Slow ride take it easy guys!1:55.732 not much better,time to give (RUFRACING)a go.The car;"Yellowbird".;1:38:544 look at those improvements! Next garage up is the grease monkey engineering's 3400s,it's gonna be greased owl ****.1:47:310 however this car got first place.Next victim;Austr-Manx's B-TR Zoom-Zoom!This car too came in first,my opponent was a NSX-R Pro.LM Road car and I look at the replay and he's all over behind me.Next fella will be Esatezza motor company's R-GT,now go!1:42:85,Okay everybody,time for intermission,be back in a few. Next up,aussie-tuners B-TR out of the furnace and into the frying pan we go.Third at 1:44:109,decent i guess,Okay next RR driver,Argutune house of innovation;1:38:886.with there B-TR.Not bad! Next up,Grease Monkey's R-GT,time to Rock and Roll! Fantastic control on GME's R-GT,First place,and the time on that is;1:39:745.NEXT!,that would be Madfinn's R-GT,Land-ho! time on that is;1:40:200.Next house,Esatezza motor company.Godspeed!; The time on the "Yellowbird" is;1:38:714


.....We'd have way too many NURBURGRINGKINGS, way too many mistamonteils. 💡

Imagine if you showed up to GTP, and every other post looked like this:

HOW DO I ASK MEMBERS QUESTIONS? BEACAUSE IAM A HUGE FAN OF GT4 AND FINALLY PUT MY VERY FAVORITE CARS TOGETHER, THERE IS ONLY 17 AND I HAVE FOUND A FEW BUT NEED THE REST

The ones i need are the life step van,suburu360,today g,n360,panda super i.e.,and the 2cv-type a.

Is any body out there?

Imagine dozens upon dozens of posts just like that one. I'm not joking...I've seen websites just like what I'm describing. Imagine if Bobby Rahal (or any other pro-driver) suddenly got an interest in GT4, decided to shop various websites (it HAS happened before) for discussion, and came upon our site. Would you want him to find some intelligent discussion or tons of confusing, thoughtless posts such as...

NURBURGRINGKING
Banned


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XBL: P4G4N1 Z0ND4 F Oct 27 2009, 2:35 PM #1

This is a thread for people who have BIG stats and achievements on GT4.

THIS POST IS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO USE CHEATS OR DON'T NEED TO USE THEM - IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHEATS - GET LOST NOW.

Are you starting to get a clue TOURNIQUETFAN? Or does all of this escape your grasp??? :odd:

Who really is obsessed with this thread? And yes I was at my fathers funeral. If I wasn't then where was I?

I wasn't going to go there, but since you asked...

How is it that you've just...done something so heavy which requires tons of grieving, and less than a week later here you are back at GTP? I simply don't buy it. I could go into further detail about why I don't buy it, but the truth is it would wind up looking rather cruel if I start posting my opinions in public on such a delicate matter.

...Suffice it to say I don't buy it. You're playing the sympathy card in hopes of us turning a blind eye towards all your shortcomings.

I have fallen from grace thy Lord but I have been busy. I got kids to take care of plus my mother is about fifty mins. from here and I want to move down there by her. I have been working on my apartment.

I have always been good at demolition to really get at the computer thing so yeh I guess I am a Troll!

WHAT?



Sorry to everyone. I really should stay AWAY from these threads....sigh.
 
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:lol: Interesting parallel....

Since the Infraction system occurs entirely in private between the Staff and the member in question, no-one but us and TOURNIQUETFAN know if he has received any Infractions or not.

This system is in place for a reason - it's none of your business. You worry about you own conduct and see to it that you don't worry us with it, and let us worry about the conduct of other members.


And yes, I'm always watching this thread.
Your right, It's not my concern but I was just saying. All I'm saying is this thread has gotten lots and lots of bad post I think the owner of the thread needs to ask a mod to clean up the thread.
 
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Well that's why I just put up my comment about the whole situation mazdaman. I know what's happening on both sides so that's why I said what I did in my previous post.
 
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