June "Car of the Month" - The Forgotten V6s!!

[shaunm80]

Vectra has a surprisingly nice grip and performance at full weight reduction and no ballast. Even with all that nose weight, it's not too bad at cornering if you get the rear to help. The Alfa, ugly as it is, not bad either. The Xantia however, may be the toughest of the group.

Purely my opinion of course. I do have some done, just have not had time to get posted yet. Will get the reviews submitted linked up soon as well.

All the cars can be good. The Alfa worked well for me in the Rome seasonal. Very easy win and handled pretty good. It had elements of understeer if you overcooked a corner but otherwise, solid car.

The Xantia has been growing on me It's not bad in the undemanding seasonal at Rome! Might even post my tune.

Hopefully will be able to post up some stuff at the weekend!

The Xantia looked good once I gave it the Chrome paint. It is like a BMW Chrome Line now, except it is slower, uglier, it doesn't have a 'line' going down it and it has much more understeer than a BMW will ever experience.. As long as it is a Chrome Version though, it will be cool!

 

[mgo]

Vectra has a surprisingly nice grip and performance at full weight reduction and no ballast. Even with all that nose weight, it's not too bad at cornering if you get the rear to help. The Alfa, ugly as it is, not bad either. The Xantia however, may be the toughest of the group.

Purely my opinion of course. I do have some done, just have not had time to get posted yet. Will get the reviews submitted linked up soon as well.

Think I'm gonna go with French cars I set both Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive '00 and 406 Coupé 3.0 V6 '98 at 300hp 1300 kg to get a good comparison.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Think I'm gonna go with French cars I set both Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive '00 and 406 Coupé 3.0 V6 '98 at 300hp 1300 kg to get a good comparison.

Never would have guessed

Sounds like a good idea 👍

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Such a crazy week, Thursday I was on and ran 1 lap in GTA. Tues and Weds I only got to log in if that. Monday was 2 laps to earn the Pug Vision GT. That's all I've had time for until last night. Managed enough time to take a trip to Rome Seasonal and of course to try my tunes just before posting. 406 Was not too bad, slow to rotate in some corners but ran a 1.23 flat. The 166 however, was surprisingly better at 1.22.5's. I want to try my Vectra next, yup, ran out of time last night. Only got 3 runs in. Hoping to have them posted and linked later today or tomorrow
Gonna be working late today though , so we shall see.

 

[shaunm80]

Well done on getting Tune of the week again Great going guys.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Thanks all goes to @Terronium-12 for selecting us, it is greatly appreciated.

 

[TurnLeft]

Congratualation @Bowtie-muscle , you really deserve this, not only for this one but for all the fabulous COTM you've put out, well deserved 👍, and ... uh ... your welcome to the clubhouse .

 

[Terronium-12]

Think nothing of it!

 

[sinof1337]

Volkswagen Bora V6 4MOTION '01

Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 '03

Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03

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[Flaco13]

Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 '03

Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity

Custom Wing - D/H/J height: -5 width: +8
Wheels 1inch up (Enkei JS-M)

Paint: Chassis-Imperial Green Metallic; wheels-Noir étoilé; calipers-Gold Chrome; wing-Imperial Green Metallic

Weight red.: Stage 3; Carbon hood; window weight red.
Downforce rear-20
Ballast-20kg
position-50

Engine-Stage3;Sports-Computer;Sports Exhaust,Isom.-Manifold;Catalyst;Intake
Power Limiter 98,0%

Suspension:
100/90
7,56/5,37
3/3
3/3
3/3
1,5/3,3
-0,10/0,00

Brakes (Racing)
4/8

Transmission:
Final 4,500 (added by edit.)
Top 180km/h (112mph)
1. 3,585
2. 2,655
3. 2,060
4. 1,670
5. 1,415
6. 1,200
Final 2,250

LSD 5/17/5

Twin-Plate Clutch

Sports Hard (or any)

500PP (Yes, I know it's supposed to be 450^^)
291kW/6.000rpm
1220kg
62:38 w.d.
508Nm/4.800 rpm

I used: G27 stock; Steering/FFB settings: 6/3/3 ABS 10 and TC 1 (off OK with any tyre)
Car has ~800km driven; body rigidity starts to deteriorate

Fastest Lap Nordschleife 7:05,332 (Race Soft, TC off, online race, grid of 6) Jan. 11th, 2015

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 '03

Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity

Custom Wing - D/H/J height: -5 width: +8
Wheels 1inch up (Enkei JS-M)

Paint: Chassis-Imperial Green Metallic; wheels-Noir étoilé; calipers-Gold Chrome; wing-Imperial Green Metallic

Weight red.: Stage 3; Carbon hood; window weight red.
Downforce rear-20
Ballast-20kg
position-50

Engine-Stage3;Sports-Computer;Sports Exhaust,Isom.-Manifold;Catalyst;Intake
Power Limiter 98,0%

Suspension:
100/90
7,56/5,37
3/3
3/3
3/3
1,5/3,3
-0,10/0,00

Brakes (Racing)
4/8

Transmission:
Final 5,000 (maybe 4,500, been a while...)
Top 180km/h (112mph)
1. 3,585
2. 2,655
3. 2,060
4. 1,670
5. 1,415
6. 1,200
Final 2,250

LSD 5/17/5

Twin-Plate Clutch

Sports Hard (or any)

500PP (Yes, I know it's supposed to be 450^^)
291kW/6.000rpm
1220kg
62:38 w.d.
508Nm/4.800 rpm

I used: G27 stock; Steering/FFB settings: 6/3/3 ABS 10 and TC 1 (off OK with any tyre)
Car has ~800km driven; body rigidity starts to deteriorate

Fastest Lap Nordschleife 7:05,332 (Race Soft, TC off, online race, grid of 6) Jan. 11th, 2015

It's really nice to see you joining us and we are glad to have you on board.

And by the way, it does not have to be 450pp, you tune as you wish, no rules. 👍

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Think nothing of it!

Just asking, any chance you may be popping in with a tune or a review???
You're always welcome to 💡


And just a little tease, yes I've been promising, but will be trying to finally get this up later and linked.
Enjoy!

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[Woodski_427]

I'm going to give all the cars I test a few laps around Cape Ring South, as this was where I ran the original trials. I will edit this post with all the results.

Cape Ring South, Single Player TT, grip low because I never remember to change it .

Stock cars, CS

Vectra.........1:39.803
Bora ...........1:40.643
406 Coupe....1:41.026
Alfa 166.......1:42.621
Xantia.........1:43.029

450pp, SH

VW Bora (@Bowtie-muscle)..........1:27.761
Vectra - Opel (@Bowtie-muscle)...1:28.148 (should be <1:28)
VW Bora (@sinof1337)...............1:28.215
VW Bora (@shaunm80)...............1:28.323
406 Coupe (Woodski_427)...........1:28.362
406 Coupe (@mgo)....................1:28.550
Alfa 166 (@shaunm80)...............1:28.568
406 Coupe (@Bowtie-muscle)......1:28.712
Alfa 166 (@Bowtie-muscle)...........1:28.818
Vectra - Opel (@sinof1337)..........1:28.839
Xantia (Woodski_427).................1:28.953
Vectra - VX (@shaunm80)...........1:29.575
406 Coupe (@shaunm80)...........1:29.576
Xantia (@shaunm80)..................1.30.153 (should be around 1:29.6)

Control Cars
'83 Silvia 240RS (@Johnnypenso)..1:27.527
'79 Civic 1500 (woodski_427)......1:28.297

Other specs

Alfa 166 @danlimski 460bhp, 515pp
SH 1:28.634
SS 1:23.737


Edit (24 Jun 15): completed 450pp, added control laps.
Edit (17 Jun 15): added 450pp Xantia, Vectra. Changed to leaderboard style.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

I'm going to give all the cars I test a few laps around Cape Ring South, as this was where I ran the original trials. I will edit this post with all the results.

Cape Ring South, Single Player TT, grip low because I never remember to change it .

Stock cars, CS

Vectra.........1:39.803
Bora ...........1:40.643
406 Coupe....1:41.026
Alfa 166.......1:42.621
Xantia.........1:43.029

Nice! I will keep checking in and will link this post.👍

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

I have now (finally, sorry for the delay) linked my tunes and also all reviews received so far.

 

[Brewguy44]

The Xantia looked good once I gave it the Chrome paint. It is like a BMW Chrome Line now, except it is slower, uglier, it doesn't have a 'line' going down it and it has much more understeer than a BMW will ever experience.. As long as it is a Chrome Version though, it will be cool!

it will be cool! WHENNNN??? Not in My Lifetime!!

 

[Brewguy44]

Congratualation @Bowtie-muscle , you really deserve this, not only for this one but for all the fabulous COTM you've put out, well deserved 👍, and ... uh ... your welcome to the clubhouse .

Congrats on tune of the week!! 👍

I agree with the rest of what TL said. Thank You for doing this!

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

it will be cool! WHENNNN??? Not in My Lifetime!! View attachment 385710

That's AWESOME, you have definitely been hangin around TL waaaaaaaay too much.

 

[Brewguy44]

What can I say he's a bad influence.

but a pretty damn good driver!!! 👍

 

[TurnLeft]

That's AWESOME, you have definitely been hangin around TL waaaaaaaay too much.

Now now, I've been keeping very quiet and civilized here , near the end of the month I should get some well deserved day's off, I'll try to reserve one for a quick look at some of these ... they are cars right? .. Silly me, of course they are, they just look Bad To The Bone .

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Now now, I've been keeping very quiet and civilized here , near the end of the month I should get some well deserved day's off, I'll try to reserve one for a quick look at some of these ... they are cars right? .. Silly me, of course they are, they just look Bad To The Bone .

Your time is ALWAYS APPRECIATED!

 

[Woodski_427]

Tune:
Citroen Xantia 450pp (and 400pp)

450pp, CS/SH, ABS 1

289bhp
1256Kg 60:40

Wheels: +1 Enkei ES-Tarmac

Tyres: CS,SH

Full custom suspension
RH: 115 102
Spring Rate: 7.15 5.10
Damper Comp: 4 5
Damper Ext: 5 4
ARB: 3 5
Camber 0 0.8
Toe: -0.10 0.03

Racing Brakes
BB 4 6

Power
Engine Stage 2
CPU
Sports Exhaust
Manifold
Cat
Intake

Limiter 97.9%

Drivetrain
Triple plate clutch

Full custom Diff'
Initial: 9
Accel: 18
Brake: 6

Body
Weight reduction: Stage 3, Bonnet, Windows
Ballast 30Kg @ 50

Full custom Trans:

Set Default
Max speed 149 mph
1st 3.430
2nd 2.295
3rd 1.660
4th 1.270
5th 1.040

Final 3.350


I ran a 400pp/CS version of this in the June 450pp seasonal at Rome:

Same as the 450pp tune with the following changes:

Engine Tune: standard

Front Spring Rate: 6.15

Not entirely sure why I went so much lower on the S/R - maybe it gave me much better grip with the CS tyres at Rome.

EDIT: Corrected Pic and added 400pp setting

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Tune:
Citroen Xantia 450pp

View attachment 387114

450pp, CS/SH, ABS 1

289bhp
1256Kg 60:40

Wheels: +1 Enkei ES-Tarmac

Tyres: CS,SH

Full custom suspension
RH: 115 102
Spring Rate: 7.15 5.10
Damper Comp: 4 5
Damper Ext: 5 4
ARB: 3 5
Camber 0 0.8
Toe: -0.10 0.03

Racing Brakes
BB 4 6

Power
Engine Stage 2
CPU
Sports Exhaust
Manifold
Cat
Intake

Limiter 97.9%

Drivetrain
Triple plate clutch

Full custom Diff'
Initial: 9
Accel: 18
Brake: 6

Body
Weight reduction: Stage 3, Bonnet, Windows
Ballast 30Kg @ 50

Full custom Trans:

Set Default
Max speed 149 mph
1st 3.430
2nd 2.295
3rd 1.660
4th 1.270
5th 1.040

Final 3.350


I ran a 400pp/CS version of this in the June 450pp seasonal at Rome (I'll have to check what I used power-wise, but I didn't change the base tune)

Nice, but either you listed it wrong, or posted the wrong photo. I Believe that's a 406 coupe.

 

[shaunm80]

Tune:
Citroen Xantia 450pp

View attachment 387114

450pp, CS/SH, ABS 1

289bhp
1256Kg 60:40

Wheels: +1 Enkei ES-Tarmac

Tyres: CS,SH

Full custom suspension
RH: 115 102
Spring Rate: 7.15 5.10
Damper Comp: 4 5
Damper Ext: 5 4
ARB: 3 5
Camber 0 0.8
Toe: -0.10 0.03

Racing Brakes
BB 4 6

Power
Engine Stage 2
CPU
Sports Exhaust
Manifold
Cat
Intake

Limiter 97.9%

Drivetrain
Triple plate clutch

Full custom Diff'
Initial: 9
Accel: 18
Brake: 6

Body
Weight reduction: Stage 3, Bonnet, Windows
Ballast 30Kg @ 50

Full custom Trans:

Set Default
Max speed 149 mph
1st 3.430
2nd 2.295
3rd 1.660
4th 1.270
5th 1.040

Final 3.350


I ran a 400pp/CS version of this in the June 450pp seasonal at Rome (I'll have to check what I used power-wise, but I didn't change the base tune)

Thats the best looking Xantia I've ever seen.

 

[Woodski_427]

Nice, but either you listed it wrong, or posted the wrong photo. I Believe that's a 406 coupe.

Thats the best looking Xantia I've ever seen.

It is the Xantia tune, wrong photo.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

It happens, I have typos all over my garage .

Will get it linked 👍

 

[Woodski_427]

It happens, I have typos all over my garage .

Will get it linked 👍

Fixed it now and added the 400pp changes (not many )

 

[danlimski]

Hi all,

This is my entry for COTM ...

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...166-2-5-v6-sportronic-98-10-june-2015.293834/

Enjoy and I look forward to your thoughts.

Dan.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Hi all,

This is my entry for COTM ...

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...166-2-5-v6-sportronic-98-10-june-2015.293834/

Enjoy and I look forward to your thoughts.

Dan.

Glad to see you join in the fun. I've been a bit slow to get the links up this month (really busy), but I will real soon.

 

[sinof1337]

Not sure if anyone here will be interested, but I'm planning on livestreaming my tuning of the Peugeot. I'll be starting around 2pm PDT at twitch.tv/assassinof1337

Edit: Change of plans: 2pm Tomorrow(Saturday). Having some issues with my network, it shouldn't be a problem tomorrow.