Legend of the Streets: Initial D GT6 Touge |Returning in 2014

[SolidSnake7735]

Date: Wednesday 08/15/2012
CMSD1, Class B
Rival 1: SolidSnake7735
Rival 2: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Course: Serra da Freita
Winner: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Battle Rating: 5 of 5

 

[MONSTAR-1]

Anyone up for a race?

 

[Human-D]

Who wants to be my first opponent of the season?

 

[HenryT]

If you got a room up, I would be interested.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

I'll be on line in an hour. Post room number please.

 

[HenryT]

Oh, forgot to mention this, since I am going out of country for a week or so, I won't be available from Friday night to the 26th, so I won't make it into the Finals this Side Season.

 

[RogerIsJolly]

GTP Username: RogerIsJolly
PSN ID: RogerIsJolly
Time Zone: GMT -4
Usual Time Online: Monday-Thursday, Late Afternoon/Late Night

+ How did you hear about LotS?
Actually I was online and found a room called Touge Racing, and joined. I did some GTplanet/google searches and found it. I ended up running into jutin and wynter last night.

+ What makes LotS Special to you?
I've always been a huge fan of cars, especially imports. I'm active in open drift days where I live, and used to do autocross in an AW11 when I was just out of highschool.

+ Tell us a little bit about your favourite car (for LotS)?
1998 Integra Type R DC2. I've always had a soft spot for these, but I honestly couldn't tell you why. I'm not a big FF fan, and other then an EG Civic and a Focus, none of the 20ish cars I've owned have been FF. Regardless, its super balanced, doesn't lose traction the way the Civic tends to, and its got more then enough power to move quick. Whats not to love?

+ What do you drive in real life?
Daily - 2007 Hyundai Elentra
Drift Car - 1991 240sx
Chassis
6 point cage with dual door bars
Tubbed front wheel wells
Metal rear blister fenders
Metal front flares
Shaved side markers and 3rd tail light
No front/rear bumper support

Brakes/Suspension
Cross Drilled/slotted rotors
hawk hps Pads
Z32 front calipers
Energy Suspension Bushings
Modified knuckles (55* angle)
Megan coils
adjustable tie rods
converted power steering rack to full manual
solid subframe collars
american racing *centerline style* 14x8 +0 with goodyear something or other (cheap tires) 185/55r14

Drivetrain
KA24DE
SPEC stage 2 clutch
fidanza flywheel
welded diff
cold air intake
421 header
test pipe
3in exhaust
short throw
emissions delete
power steering pump delete
A/C delete
mishimoto radiator
silicone coolant hoses
nismo thermo

lots of others, thats off the top of my head

+ How long would you think you'll support LotS for?
As long as I am capable I will. the drift car is taking a lot of my time with a rebuild atm, but between that and work I still find time to play

 

[MONSTAR-1]

Leader board needs updating shadow.

 

[TimberW]

Since the 90's Season is coming to an end.

And I'm still in the background at the moment, last year, I wanted to try out a PP balancing for cars. No testing has been done but this are my thoughts to narrow down the generational gaps between cars.

This is just based on Class B.

I'll catergorise the cars in GT5 into 3 catergories.

Pre-90s, 90s, Post 00.

After observing the leaderboards, there's a clear difference between a 90s car and a post 00 car at 450pp.

So a proposal is to adjust the limits of each era car to level the playing field. The era's car is not solely based on the year of manufacture but really the technology era which underpins the car.

For example. An S15 and MRS, I would consider it a 90's era car. While an S2000 would be considered a post 00' era car.

So I thought of balancing the cars this way:

Pre-90s = 460PP limit
90's = 450PP limit
Post 00s = 440PP limit

What do you guys think?

 

[RogerIsJolly]

Since the 90's Season is coming to an end.

And I'm still in the background at the moment, last year, I wanted to try out a PP balancing for cars. No testing has been done but this are my thoughts to narrow down the generational gaps between cars.

This is just based on Class B.

I'll catergorise the cars in GT5 into 3 catergories.

Pre-90s, 90s, Post 00.

After observing the leaderboards, there's a clear difference between a 90s car and a post 00 car at 450pp.

So a proposal is to adjust the limits of each era car to level the playing field. The era's car is not solely based on the year of manufacture but really the technology era which underpins the car.

For example. An S15 and MRS, I would consider it a 90's era car. While an S2000 would be considered a post 00' era car.

So I thought of balancing the cars this way:

Pre-90s = 460PP limit
90's = 450PP limit
Post 00s = 440PP limit

What do you guys think?

I would agree with this to a point. Keep in mind, the S15 and S2000 were both released in '99. The SR20 and 6 speed, along with the rear end and suspension, are entirely different then the S13/S14. I think the reason you're not grouping the two together is because of the previous S chassis cars and the lack of recent predecessor to the AP1. I would say;

Pre-90s (Z32, SW20, S13, etc) = 460pp
'90s (CD/E/NA, S14, JZA80, etc) = 450pp
'98-00 (CP9A, GC8F, S15, etc) = 440pp

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Since the 90's Season is coming to an end.

And I'm still in the background at the moment, last year, I wanted to try out a PP balancing for cars. No testing has been done but this are my thoughts to narrow down the generational gaps between cars.

This is just based on Class B.

I'll catergorise the cars in GT5 into 3 catergories.

Pre-90s, 90s, Post 00.

After observing the leaderboards, there's a clear difference between a 90s car and a post 00 car at 450pp.

So a proposal is to adjust the limits of each era car to level the playing field. The era's car is not solely based on the year of manufacture but really the technology era which underpins the car.

For example. An S15 and MRS, I would consider it a 90's era car. While an S2000 would be considered a post 00' era car.

So I thought of balancing the cars this way:

Pre-90s = 460PP limit
90's = 450PP limit
Post 00s = 440PP limit

What do you guys think?

i like

 

[TimberW]

I would agree with this to a point. Keep in mind, the S15 and S2000 were both released in '99. The SR20 and 6 speed, along with the rear end and suspension, are entirely different then the S13/S14. I think the reason you're not grouping the two together is because of the previous S chassis cars and the lack of recent predecessor to the AP1. I would say;

Pre-90s (Z32, SW20, S13, etc) = 460pp
'90s (CD/E/NA, S14, JZA80, etc) = 450pp
'98-00 (CP9A, GC8F, S15, etc) = 440pp

Hi Roger! thanks for your input. I know a little bit about cars but not that in-depth.

Perhaps, to say is more like the technology which sustained/underpin their status through post 00.

Cars like S15 didn't sustain it's status throughout the millennium. But the S2000 clearly did. S2000 technological advances was beyond it's time so to speak. Same as the Lotus Elise 111R.

Like the 89' R32 which is way beyond it's time.

 

[92egkirt]

I guess its alittle late to register for "running in the 90s" ill wait for the next event!.

 

[HenryT]

I would agree with this to a point. Keep in mind, the S15 and S2000 were both released in '99. The SR20 and 6 speed, along with the rear end and suspension, are entirely different then the S13/S14. I think the reason you're not grouping the two together is because of the previous S chassis cars and the lack of recent predecessor to the AP1. I would say;

Pre-90s (Z32, SW20, S13, etc) = 460pp
'90s (CD/E/NA, S14, JZA80, etc) = 450pp
'98-00 (CP9A, GC8F, S15, etc) = 440pp

Trust me when I say this, in-game, the AP1 is way too good. The SW20 is definently a '90s car, production from 1989-1999. One question though, guys, can we consider the ZZW30 as a '90s car please?

Besides, it would be better if we categorized the cars by the production year, with a few exceptions of course, like the AP1 and R32.

 

[TimberW]

Trust me when I say this, in-game, the AP1 is way too good. The SW20 is definently a '90s car, production from 1989-1999. One question though, guys, can we consider the ZZW30 as a '90s car please?

Besides, it would be better if we categorized the cars by the production year, with a few exceptions of course, like the AP1 and R32.

I would consider the ZZW30 (MR-S) a 90's car. 👍

It's really a matter of balancing the 'great' 450pp cars, like S2000, Elise.

 

[Slender_Man]

17/08/2012
Rival 1: OSE_CAP__SHADOW (Class B)
Rival 2: H_enry_T (Class B)
Course: Gunsai Touge
Battle Style: CMSD 3 sec
Winner: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Rating: 5/5

After having the postpone the battle yesterday after 7 rounds to go to work we returned to finish off today which only lasted 1 lap.
Henry choose to lead and i managed to get good drive and pass him in the early moments of the race. Henry tried his best to match pace today be was unable to match my S2K's grip and was fighting his MR-S to the line.

 

[Winters Noble]

Date: 17/8/2012 (Class A, Cmsd 1)
Rival 1: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Rival 2:Wynter92
Course:Mt. Akina
Winner: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Battle Rating: 5 of 5

(Class B, GG-Handicap)

Rival 1: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Rival 2: Wynter92
Course: Mt. Akina
Winner: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Battle Rating: 5 of 5

First time in a while that I drove a FF. 250ps FTO couldn't cut it on the straights but made me proud.

 

[badboy_etc]

I was reading the post that Timber made and something about this concerned me.. I remember when increasing 10pp on a car that results to about 10-15hp with a 50kg in weight lost combined perhaps even more in either or. That seems pretty significant to me, and now imagine a 20pp difference.

I believe 5pp should be considerate in terms of each category your proposing Timber. I'm surprised the NSX has not been mentioned, but that too would be a concern for future argument.

Pretty soon there will be nothing left to tune, lol.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

17/08/2012
Rival 1: OSE_CAP__SHADOW (Class B)
Rival 2: H_enry_T (Class B)
Course: Gunsai Touge
Battle Style: CMSD 3 sec
Winner: OSE_CAP__SHADOW
Rating: 5/5

After having the postpone the battle yesterday after 7 rounds to go to work we returned to finish off today which only lasted 1 lap.
Henry choose to lead and i managed to get good drive and pass him in the early moments of the race. Henry tried his best to match pace today be was unable to match my S2K's grip and was fighting his MR-S to the line.

Postpone a race that has already started? Lol never heard of that one.
Henry said that he won by spreading the gap.

 

[Slender_Man]

Postpone a race that has already started? Lol never heard of that one.
Henry said that he won by spreading the gap.

I told him i had to go to work as i was going be late and said can we continue later on....
It was a good battle up until then...

 

[AudiMan2011]

Postpone a race that has already started? Lol never heard of that one.
Henry said that he won by spreading the gap.

It has happened before when me and Timber had to postpone our race in Season 3 and continue with it a couple of days later.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

Poor Henry lol

 

[TimberW]

I was reading the post that Timber made and something about this concerned me.. I remember when increasing 10pp on a car that results to about 10-15hp with a 50kg in weight lost combined perhaps even more in either or. That seems pretty significant to me, and now imagine a 20pp difference.

I believe 5pp should be considerate in terms of each category your proposing Timber. I'm surprised the NSX has not been mentioned, but that too would be a concern for future argument.

Pretty soon there will be nothing left to tune, lol.

Interesting details. Of course, all the details can be further explored. The 20pp difference will be between a post 00 car and a pre-90s car. Imagine a 460pp AE86 vs a 440pp GT86. Perhaps that could be a good test. Or 460pp Nissan Z30 vs 440pp Z33/34.

Also older cars with higher PP will be harder to handle.

However, another closer test will be the MX-5s. 450PP NA/NB vs 440pp NCs.
Or 450pp elise 96 vs 440pp elise 111r.
Or 450pp DC2 vs 440pp DC5.
Or an 460pp AW11 vs 450pp SW20.

And this could be tested in the Gen Wars Side Season.

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Just wanted to say ... I love LotS!!

 

[Fragolas79]

I agree with Timber respecting the differences between eras, in a general point of view. Althought, this will lead to some issues and discussion, so I will take watever decisions you guys take.

I would like to bring another matter to discusion: it is about the C Class (420pp) and its cc limit. Im proposing a 1600cc limit for supercharged and turbo cars, and a 2000cc for naturally aspired. Im getting this to discussion, because we have a lot of cars witch could compete in this category, and would make it far more interesting. I can remember of EP Civics, Celicas, Integras, 1800 MX5, oldschool 240Z, etc. In some words, bringing the cars witch are not competitive in the 450pp class, and nobody uses them, could make the C class a frequent one in Core Seasons

Edit: I even dare to go further, and limit the tyres to Confort Soft in C Class, but this would be another discussion )

 

[TakumiFuji01]

New vid! This is probably my favourite out of all Hot Version vids I have.
Top 10 Touge Hot Version Battles.. by the way, part 1 back on but still having the same CopyRight Claim issue. Anyways, enjoy.

 

[KRONIC]

touge room up 1472-6118-4130-9220-7954

 

[ShortAzianKid]

Unfortunately I am missing this weekend and any chance of competing in this side season...sorry guys I'll try my best to participate in the next one

 

[TimberW]

I managed to log on last night and ran with Snake. Was a great feeling back on the virtual roads. Lol. Anyways. I think 10pp is a lot like what badboy said. Perhaps a 5pp to 7pp will be better. That's a within 1-2% of 450pp.

Class C suggestion is pretty interesting. 1.6L for force induction and 2L for NA.

 

[snooky12]

How can i join my psn is snooky00.