Lewis Hamilton Time Trial DLC Coming to GT Sport, With Exclusive Rewards

The TT is not the problem. Paying for content is not the problem. It's only what some have pointed out that with the "Enter" button, PD could have allowed for 20mil - Infiniti Cr. from the start of the game.

Conpletely agree, still on the fence if I am getting the dlc, depends on if the price matches what I feel I should get for content. But, finally changing the money cap, something people have rightfully been complaining about since the beginning, attached to the first paid dlc? Seems a bit underhanded.
 
Nobody tried to beat those times just to try ?
I took the car with RH and full stock on Dragon Trail, with full track limits and made a 1'37"057 and it was pretty hard, needed 15 laps to do it. Optimal was 1'36"7 and I know where I lose time but it's not easy to match every sector...
I just had a go, and couldn't match your time, did 1:37.8 with an optimal of 1:37.4. I didn't like how understeery the car is, I've perhaps become too accustomed to driving MR cars to do well with FR now unless I spend a lot longer getting used to how it needs to be driven.
 
What do people think? I don’t think it’s fair that the top 3% of players get a credit increase, also paid dlc for time trial events mmm, also I feel we need better ways to make credits, I don’t play gt sport that much, I am only sitting on a 1.5 million, maybe have a sign in bonus like gran turismo 6. Sign in 5 consecutive days 100%bonus etc. How do people feel about this dlc? I probably won’t be getting it, I’m not top 3% lol and on a pad too.
 
Paid DLC for Time Trials and to unlock* the credit limit (need to get Gold on the events)........yikes. In addition to allowing real money purchases of cars in game because of the grind/grind/grind. I guess PD is desperate for money, even though they are a first party AAA studio. The zealotry of Kaz is on Kojima level.

If a Forza game did any of this, the outrage would be palpable.
 
Paid DLC for Time Trials and to unlock* the credit limit (need to get Gold on the events)........yikes. In addition to allowing real money purchases of cars in game because of the grind/grind/grind. I guess PD is desperate for money, even though they are a first party AAA studio. The zealotry of Kaz is on Kojima level.

If a Forza game did any of this, the outrage would be palpable.
Forza already has VIP, where you pay to increase the rate of earning credits, and it also unlocks..... wait for it..... VIP only time trials in FM7.
 
If a Forza game did any of this, the outrage would be palpable.

Which goes to show the double standards of this forum, but then again, that's been typical of this forum for years. What Kaz does is good - but anybody else, especially those bastards from T10/PG, should be burnt at the stake for what they do (even if it's nowhere close to what it actually is, in terms of the 'lootbox' hullabaloo in FM7)

That GT5 DLC was 8 years ago and PD currently abandon such system since GT6. Let's judge the company based on current practices, yes?

Considering the fact that actions from the past, no matter how long ago in the past they might be, often times informs people of the views of the present, this is hilariously stupid. Besides, this is coming from you, and it might be prudent to point out what you said about GRID 2019 (in regards to being shown examples in Codemasters' history of being very much anti-consumer with their actions revolving around DiRT Rally 2.0 specifically, but also in the recent past at time of the quoted post)

Whats hillarious for people who are raging about this game is that they based their complaints off from prejudice rather than facts. Just because it's from the same dev that delivers DiRT Rally 2.0 doesnt meant that the development model will be exactly the same (free tracks for example).

How quickly that was proven wrong!

Frankly, pipe down about 'judging companies based on current practices'. Polyphony especially has a history of trying to pull fast ones on players in this very game, re-hashing content from GT6 when they (and fans, it should be added) stomped up and down that they were future-proofed for the next generation, and only offered them for free because they offered a game that was barren at launch, and they had managed to alienate a good portion of their fanbase with this full bore tilt into making an iRacing derivative, before making an about face to try and court them again, muddling up the entire point of this game and leaving it in a weird position compared to even at launch. If they would have offered all of this 'free' content for paid purposes (which I guarantee they had every intention of doing) they would have been shredded even more at launch. They said that they wouldn't add micro-transactions, and guess what? They did. It was even defended. Going back to the above, if this was any other developer (T10 and PG especially) then this site would be dragging them through the mud, but apparently Polyphony doing it means it's sunshine and roses.

Frankly, people *should* be bringing up prior examples considering their actions in the present are a direct result of things in the past. Polyphony isn't some unassailable company like how people on this forum want them to be. As Terronium said, they aren't your friends, so frankly, stop trying to defend them. Criticize them. The fact that people are being called out as ungrateful and as whiners for (correctly) pointing out how sleazy this paid Time Trial is, and using examples from both recent and prior history, is absolutely valid.
 
I just had a go, and couldn't match your time, did 1:37.8 with an optimal of 1:37.4. I didn't like how understeery the car is, I've perhaps become too accustomed to driving MR cars to do well with FR now unless I spend a lot longer getting used to how it needs to be driven.
Yep, agree with the understeery car, but I feel nearly all cars in GTS are understeery since the last update...
 
7 pounds is nothing. If your a racing fanatic and especially f1. The sheer thought of competing against a 6 time world champ. Who is also my inspiration. Even if i know he will destroy me. Its the learning from his technique and style on how to improve is to me invaluable and shud be to anybody who is true racing fan. What other game allows this. Thank you poly and lewis for teaming up and giving fans a differant and exciting different angle. Lets get it on

I hate Lewis Hamilton so I will not support him, so I won’t pay for this dlc, gt sport should have max Verstappen and Lando Norris shoud be a part of gt sport, the are way better then him

Really lol
 
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It's a really strange choice of DLC if I'm honest. If there's a bunch of historic Mercedes models such as the CLK-GTR, 190E, W156, 300SL and W05 then I'll jump at it but that doesn't seem to be the case. Adding time trails as a DLC is truly pathetic if you don't get exclusive rewards. The increased credit limit isn't something that can be exploited by the majority, and I don't even know what this Project 44 thing is. That's not a strong incentive for me to buy it.
 
I hate Lewis Hamilton so I will not support him, so I won’t pay for this dlc, gt sport should have max Verstappen and Lando Norris shoud be a part of gt sport, the are way better then him

the are way better then him

Huh?

Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the greatest to do it, so whatever you've smoked to get to that conclusion is probably quite strong
 
Huh?

Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the greatest to do it, so whatever you've smoked to get to that conclusion is probably quite strong
I hope he's not hating on him just because in the recent F1 competition, Hamilton was able to prove himself faster than the aging Vettel...
 
It's a really strange choice of DLC if I'm honest. If there's a bunch of historic Mercedes models such as the CLK-GTR, 190E, W156, 300SL and W05 then I'll jump at it but that doesn't seem to be the case. Adding time trails as a DLC is truly pathetic if you don't get exclusive rewards. The increased credit limit isn't something that can be exploited by the majority, and I don't even know what this Project 44 thing is. That's not a strong incentive for me to buy it.

Same here. Its bad enough a long requested solution to the Credit Cap is behind a paywall, it so far appears to have nothing that really makes it a must buy for anyone who isn't just gobbling up everything thrown at them.

Huh?

Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the greatest to do it, so whatever you've smoked to get to that conclusion is probably quite strong

Key Phrase that pretty much sums up that statement: "I Hate Lewis Hamilton". Its on the same level of logic as despising a Nascar game solely because a driver you don't like is on the Cover.
 
7 pounds is nothing. If your a racing fanatic and especially f1. The sheer thought of competing against a 6 time world champ. Who is also my inspiration. Even if i know he will destroy me. Its the learning from his technique and style on how to improve is to me invaluable and shud be to anybody who is true racing fan. What other game allows this. Thank you poly and lewis for teaming up and giving fans a differant and exciting different angle. Lets get it on



Really lol
£7 is not nothing. It is validating the action of PD. Buy this and it becomes normal practice. Refuse to buy this and you tell them not to do this.

Incidentally, Forza Motorsport 7 did a similar thing around the Indianapolis 500 against laptimes of Indy drivers. It didn't cost anything by the way.
 
I'm kinda worried. Not because it's a paid DLC but because you have to achieve a certain goal to unlock the higher credit limit cap. I'm a completionist and want to have every single car in the game. If PD releases cars that cost more than 20,000,000 Cr. at some point in the future, everybody who fails to beat those Gold times will be unable to acquire them. Kind of a niche issue, I know. But as a car collector it bothers me.
 
I will be getting the DLC for 2 reasons.
  1. On average I am about 1 second a lap of the pace of the really good drivers in the game, so it would be nice if I could figure out a way to get closer, and hopefully Lewis' laps might help me get there
  2. Polyphony have made a game that I am still playing heavily 2 years after I bought it, so an extra £7 seems very fair since they haven't charged us for any other updates since then. I know they are using it as a loss-leader for the next game but they could have stopped the free updates this year and I think a significant proportion of people would have paid for track updates like Spa and Laguna Seca.
 
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Honestly if this dlc came with these two cars.

I would gladly given PD my money because the car on the right is a unicorn!!!
 
I have spend so, so much time on GT Sport that €7 really is nothing. And I haven't even been playing it competitively. I'd also rather spend it on more engaging content than time trials but honestly it's already worth the money before even having played it. If I end up only having paid €60 + €7 for a game I've played nearly daily for the last two years it'll be a steal.
 
and only offered them for free because they offered a game that was barren at launch

Proof?

If they would have offered all of this 'free' content for paid purposes (which I guarantee they had every intention of doing)

Proof?

No? Pipe down yourself then.

As Terronium said, they aren't your friends, so frankly, stop trying to defend them. Criticize them.

I do not need to consider PD my friends, I only need to judge whether their actions are inline with what I want from the game, and for the most part they remain so (I mean I couldn't give a **** about sport mode or the FIA GTC but I knew I was getting that when I bought GTS... but other than that... it's all good)... so it's not a case of defending PD cuz PD friend... it's because they're making the game I want.
 
Having read through the whole thread, thankfully not in one go, ;) a few things popped out.

Some people really want to give PD more money. :crazy: I wonder how many of these people have been paying for cars in the PSN store rather than getting a car by accumulating credits in the game and and getting the car they want. Want to give PD more money, buy (with real money) for the cars, I'm sure they will appreciate it. This Lewis Hamilton DLC looks like something similar, give PD money for something you can do in the game already. Once the times Hamilton has set in the game are known, unless they have changed the underlying physics, or put in something 'special' that someone who has not bought the DLC can duplicate, then anyone will be able to measure how close, mut really, lets be honest, how far you are from his times. So what would you really be getting for your money!

I don't understand the benefit of the 100m credit limit when to actually get 20m is so hard. Get to 20m, buy some cars. Or am I missing something?

Lewis Hamilton garners very polarizing views. :rolleyes: :lol:

People keep on comparing GT to other games, some not even racing games, and PD to other developers, both are flawed imho. Other game developers may release games on multiple platforms, and release games with a lot more frequency. PD are unlike a lot of games developers in that, for GT at least, they are locked into one platform, Playstation. That may seem a reason for them to try and get more money via DLC, but Sony sell Playstation's because of GT. I only have a PS4 because of GT. That has to be factored into how much money they are generating with the games.

The aim of GT Sport was not only to sell PS4's, but to also to sell Playstation Plus subscriptions, and that also has to be facttored into how much GT Sport is generating. It is to their benefit to keep producing content to make the game appear relevant, and attractive to current, and hopefully new players, especially with a new console not far away. How far a new GT game is away is anyone's guess. :rolleyes: To sell a PS5 to me, a new GT would need to be pretty soon after the console's release, ideally at the same time.

The worry about starting paid for DLC is that it could be the thin end of a wedge. If they were to start having cars and tracks as paid DLC, it could imho, affect the the PS+ subscriptions, participation numbers online and maybe even future Playstation sales, which wouldn't be wise.

If this paid DLC is successful though, then there could be more paid DLC, but if they have any sense, it would be like this seems to be, as a take it or leave it option, 'but' 'if' they were to have paid content which were fundamental to the game, it would have quite a backlash, and for a series that depends on a lot of loyalty, because of the length of time between releases, that would, imho, be a huge mistake.

And because of all the above, PD are not doing people favours with free DLC content, it is a means to keep interest in a game as long as possible, and to fill out a content light game on release.

And if you got to the end of all that, well done. ;) :lol:
 
Having read through the whole thread, thankfully not in one go, ;) a few things popped out.

And because of all the above, PD are not doing people favours with free DLC content, it is a means to keep interest in a game as long as possible, and to fill out a content light game on release.

Exactly this. Those updates aren't "free". They are just a part of the plan how to release the game and how to maintain interest of the players. GT Sport compared to other Gran Turismo games had less content on day 1.

I bought PS4 Pro and Playstation+ just to play in Gran Turismo Sport too. I wouldn't buy PS4 Pro if GT Sport was on PC.
 
I’d just like to point out the hypocrisy of people who get all offended that people are defending a company they support, while also saying they shouldn’t be allowed to defend PD.

Yeah, it’s not good to just be perfectly content with everything. Criticism is a powerful tool that can be used for positive change, but I think it’s equally as dangerous to have entirely cynical people dominating an entire discussion without having any of their points challenged.

Personally I don’t like the idea of the credit cap being locked behind a pay wall, but knowing PD and the years of support they put into this game I can’t bring myself to label them a greedy or soulless corporation only out to turn profit, or whatever other conspiracies people are throwing out there. I’m not going to stop supporting them just because they aren’t my friends either.

It is entirely within your right to think this DLC is lame, go right ahead. I sort of agree myself. I’m mostly interested in the special prize cars myself more than anything.
 
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Personally I don’t like the idea of the credit cap being locked behind a pay wall, but knowing PD and the years of support they put into this game I can’t bring myself to label them a greedy or soulless corporation only out to turn profit, or whatever other conspiracies people are throwing out there. I’m not going to stop supporting them just because they aren’t my friends either.

Being reactionary is how you get internet points nowadays, sadly.
 
I got GT Sport as part of the VR bundle. I'm fairly disappointed in the VR aspect of the game, I like racing games but didn't play video games regularly in the past few years, when I put in the disc for GT Sport it really hasn't come out of the PS4, despite not offering the VR content I expected. The DLC isn't pure fluff, nor is it great, I will probably get it and play it until I beat it, the great thing about this game is that even after long time of playing it, I only recently completed the Circuit Experience with gold and am still hanging a few silver and bronze in the mission challenges. I found Nurburgring and one of the Rally trails to be extremely difficult to beat in circuit experience, and the night time rally in the mission challenges to be impossible for me at this point. This will be fun, and chasing alien ghost is often what I would do to improve for FIA races before going to the lobby, so chasing Hamilton will be fun too. The game is fun, the online racing pretty good, graphically pleasing with a ton of tracks to learn and master in a variety of cars, I can't be mad at PD for needing to kick LH a % per download to lend his name to the game, and still get content for free near monthly. Now if only they would put an oval track in race A :)
 
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