Lifting one wheel in a turn.... I GOT IT!!!

[sucahyo]

I've been to a Rover Metro trackday where a guy was running a 1.4 gti on slicks and the rear wheel was constantly off the floor through the corners! I took a ride in it and the cornering was pretty quick, the wheel lift wasn't even noticeable.

Was cornering quicker than the 1.8 VVC that was also running

In case of car in my video, it is very noticable .

I've upload two examples. In 2nd look at tyre deformation. I think PS2's pad and sales makes GT4 so "physically simple". I'm very disapointed with rally cars on tarmac (In particular), wich doesn't lift a wheel on air correctly and i'm not sure if GT5 is going to fix this.

Cool, I don't know tire can deformed in GT4.

Did this a long time ago. Peice of cake I guess the slight climb helped it. But if you're thinking I that I bounced it off the rumble strip you're wrong. It never touched it

Is that with max ride height, soft rear and stiff front suspension? If it doesn't I think tuning to it can make it lift more even on flat.

 

[luftrofl]

The original picture seems to show the car drifting through a right hand turn(because the wheels are turned to the left). If that is the case, then the front right, not the front left as shown in the picture, is the wheel that would be lifted up. This leads me to believe that the wheel was not lifted and that actually this is a trick of the way the wheels are drawn by the GT4 graphics engine.

 

[sucahyo]

The original picture seems to show the car drifting through a right hand turn(because the wheels are turned to the left). If that is the case, then the front right, not the front left as shown in the picture, is the wheel that would be lifted up. This leads me to believe that the wheel was not lifted and that actually this is a trick of the way the wheels are drawn by the GT4 graphics engine.

How do we know it's drifting?

Car lift inside tire when drifting too?

Anyway, I think if no one can replicate the same thing easily, the car not qualified as capable lifting inside tire.

 

[.*StReeTz*.]

Cool.

 

[GM]

I like the video .

 

[ÄŁPĨЙΣ]

heres one of mine...

 

[vectradriver]

Here's proof...

 

[.*StReeTz*.]

Yea

 

[Barracuda]

that f1's wheel is not off the ground. i tried to get an alfa romeos front wheel off the ground and when i took the pics at certian angles it looked like the wheel was off teh ground but i wasnt

 

[luftrofl]

This is a long post so bear with me. I've separated each section.

How do we know it's drifting?

Car lift inside tire when drifting too?

Anyway, I think if no one can replicate the same thing easily, the car not qualified as capable lifting inside tire.

Oh gee, I don't know. Maybe the guy SAID that's what happened. Or maybe I'm just making stuff up because I like arguing. [/sarcasm]

(read the bold text from the original post)

hey guys,

i tried for a long time now, doing this. lifting a wheel like in real life when you in a turn.

i started trying to find settings for the ford focus RS, but that car just never lifted a rear wheel in a turn.

i tried and tried and tried.

just for fun i took my FGT for a ride, and i got sudden oversteering, and i controlled it, and i wanted to watch the replay....why that happened, and then i saw it. my FGT lifted the front left wheel while drifting.

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as you can see on the pic, in the drift the front wheel lifted, and now i know its possible that gt4 is letting your car lift 1 wheel, even if youre not boucning of a curb.

now guys, get you wheels airborne!!!!

In a turn where the car is drifting through a right hand turn(with wheels turned to the left) the right front will lift more than the front left(because the weight is mostly on the left side of the car). If the front left is lifting OFF the ground(which really shouldn't be happening), then the front right must be higher(and MUCH higher). So why is the left the only one shown?
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heres one of mine...

You've got to be kidding me. You've jumped off a curb or something- maybe you went off a jump wrong. The car hasn't done it on its own.

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Here's proof...

Yes, because the front right lifts up all the time on a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE CAR. It is also known that the rear wheel that would have the most weight on it would also be the one that is most likely to lift up. [/sarcasm]

Looks like somebody just discovered that the Nurburgring has BUMPS.

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Listen folks, I am not saying that lifting a wheel isn't possible, but I AM saying this:

-The situations that you have posted pictures of have NO chance of resulting in any wheel raising off the ground in a way that is NOT related to the track having bumps.

 

[alexwrc]

-The situations that you have posted pictures of have NO chance of resulting in any wheel raising off the ground in a way that is NOT related to the track having bumps.

You can't wrote it more clear. It's a shame, but is very difficult (I'm not going to say imposible though) to lift one wheel on air by itself. About tyre deformation, surely not in GT. I hope something new in GT5 at least, because a "weight physics" means an absolutely enjoyment and spectacular moments in replays

Salu2.alexwrc

 

[Metar]

heres one of mine...

Is this on the La Sarthe straight? If so, well... The track there is bouncy enough to launch you into the Armco, so getting two wheels off isn't a problem.

 

[daan]

No, that's coming over the crest at Flugplatz on the nürburgring

 

[Metar]

Same thing, only worse. Proves nothing, since every car can lift upto 4 wheels there

 

[sucahyo]

that f1's wheel is not off the ground. i tried to get an alfa romeos front wheel off the ground and when i took the pics at certian angles it looked like the wheel was off teh ground but i wasnt

You need car with height more than 200 (Subaru 360), and has very low spring rate when using custom suspension (Subaru 360 1.5/1.6), and use grippy tire (R5), and should have good speed when entering corner (subaru 360 with F1 engine ).

Subaru 360 in GT4 qualified for this, in GT2 it's not, that's why I show Subaru forester in my video. There is two other car capable of lifting inside tire in GT2, honda z, and pajero mini.

I use softest front/stiffest rear spring rate, max front-rear height, softest front/stiffest rear stabilizer to lift rear tire. For Subaru 360 it can also use this to lift the front tire :
- stiffest front/softest rear spring rate
- max front/max rear height
- stiffest front/softest rear stabilizer
- no wing please
- no aids too

should be no problem for subaru 360.

Since I can only play GT4 occasionally, I can't check this right away.

Oh gee, I don't know. Maybe the guy SAID that's what happened. Or maybe I'm just making stuff up because I like arguing. [/sarcasm]

(read the bold text from the original post)

In a turn where the car is drifting through a right hand turn(with wheels turned to the left) the right front will lift more than the front left(because the weight is mostly on the left side of the car). If the front left is lifting OFF the ground(which really shouldn't be happening), then the front right must be higher(and MUCH higher). So why is the left the only one shown?

Aaah, I see. I should read more carefully . Agree with your point .

 

[sucahyo]

Since nobody post any inside wheelie video in this thread, I think I will.

43hp ,no weight mods, Subaru 360 mode 5 B-Spec (push) at Deep forest.

Suspension
-Spring Rate: 1.5 / 15.0
-Ride Height: 216 / 216
-Bound: 1 / 1
-Rebound: 1 / 1
-Camber: 0.0 / 0.0
-Toe: 0.00 / 0.00
-Stabilizers: 1 / 7

Super crappy video of Subaru 360 lift inside rear tire during cornering

on first half of first corner it lift the rear inside tire all the time


on second half, B-Spec lost control because not expecting sudden rear tire grip loss.


So, inside tire lifting in GT4 is possible even without bump.

 

[260c_h230]

Here's a couple I have from a year or so ago, if I remember correctly the car is modified in every way and has VERY hard suspension. So really it's probably just bouncing around that I took the photos of. Either way you can definitely get a wheel off of the ground this way.



EDIT: And the car is as low as it can go, like all of my cars.

 

[Metar]

But this is the 'ring... It's full of bumps - therefore, having a wheel off is pretty easy there. Bumps don't count as one-wheel-off.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

You guys realise you're talking in someone's gallery who expects comments on his pictures instead of a GT4 General discussion?

 

[sucahyo]

This thread topic is in wrong section anyway, which I think a moderator will move when they see this.
Since there's already hot topic talk, I just jump here when I get informed .
I hope moderator will move this thread to GT4 home section too.


260c_h230, I think you will get more inside lift when you use max height. And maybe try it again in non bumpy track since this thread "grow" because it start with:

as you can see on the pic, in the drift the front wheel lifted, and now i know its possible that gt4 is letting your car lift 1 wheel, even if youre not boucning of a curb.

 

[Talon Lardner]

I'm not sure if this was a bump or not, but I managed to catch an interesting lifted wheel shot during the flat section of Seattle.

Again, I can't quite remember if there was a bump at that exact spot on the turn, but I don't recall there being one.

 

[Christhedude]

so, after long time i found that my threads still kinda alive

so,i saw that clip about the subaru 360...and i was amazed, so i'm going to try that aswell and will post my results later on.

and yea, about my FGT pic, i think i was wrong! SORRY

chris


EDIT//: i didnt find the subaru 360, so i just took that auto bianchi...i got a rear wheel lifted a few times, but just a lil bit... anway, i took a nice shot of it when i was breaking

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[Keef]

I don't know why, but it's really cool to see these lifted wheels.

 

[TheBigMan045]

Has anyone tried the Daihatsu Midget, the old one. It looks as if you could lift the rear tire when cornering as it only has 3 wheels

 

[MP]

This is an interesting thread, i must try this soon. Anyways great pics and vid!

 

[sucahyo]

It seems that there could be more car capable of litfting inside corner with tuning, even on non bumpy surface. I don't think midget could though.

Great job to you all who able to find these car 👍.

 

[~Sp33~]

that subaru forester video was amazing. On gt2 the mitsu Pajero mini could lift its rear tyre on cornering with stock suspension.