Lightweight K-Cup Lake Maggiore Tips and Tricks?

I did it in the S660 that I had tuned for the Human Comedy mission. Best lap was 1:00.365. It's fairly easy to win once you get the hang of the track. Difficulty on Hard.
 
Just can't win, neither S660 nor Beat or Capuccino.
Try these settings. These also work for the K-Cup Endurance, single pit after 34-35 minutes. Keep in mind the widebody as well.
 

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Jacked up my S660 to 399 PP, won easily. Already owned the prize car. Not worth it, not bothering with the other cafe's as i have no interest in VGT or Gr. 1.
 
I find it very interesting... sooo many use the Low RPM Turbo, which somehow has no real use in cappuccino....

High I use RPM Turbo + full tuning. (Advantage I have my best engine performance where the speed is now and not in the lower and middle speed range. Reduce chassis height minimally. Stiffen suspension and increase wheel camber. Differential to 20/40/5
Reduce engine power as far as necessary and increase the weight by at least 50kg. Result 399.98 PP. Adapt the transmission to the respective routes and you're done. In Maggi I do my good laps in less than 1 minute and that on the pad. on the steering wheel probably a little faster.
You can steer the car around corners using the brakes and accelerator pedal once you understand it.
 
Just can't win, neither S660 nor Beat or Capuccino.
I know the feeling, was in exactly the same boat. Could do Willow Springs and Tokyo but Lago Maggiore? Not a chance in hell. Eventually I just put the difficulty on Beginner. Even then I only just overtook the lead car on the final turn and only by ramming him. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it's so much harder on Normal difficulty compared to the other two.
 
I know the feeling, was in exactly the same boat. Could do Willow Springs and Tokyo but Lago Maggiore? Not a chance in hell. Eventually I just put the difficulty on Beginner. Even then I only just overtook the lead car on the final turn and only by ramming him. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it's so much harder on Normal difficulty compared to the other two.
Still can't win on normal, or even endurance, (best i got was 2nd with 24 laps)
 
Yeah, I don't understand how so many are seemingly winning Lago Maggiore easily when they're all using tuning and upgrades virtually identical to me. Must just be a crap driver, I guess lol.
Honestly, it's just practice and you'll get there in the end. I didn't focus on racing clean and used as much of the track limits as I could on my race win.
 
Yeah, I don't understand how so many are seemingly winning Lago Maggiore easily when they're all using tuning and upgrades virtually identical to me. Must just be a crap driver, I guess lol.
There's a lot of time to be made on that track. Mostly using the momenteum from the big downhill turn, into the following left turn after the straight, the AI is terrible at this turn for some reason.
 
You should be able to hit close to 1 minute flat with a decently tuned car. I passed leader on the last lap. I was definitely faster than the leader, it was just a matter of closing the big gap.
 
I find it very interesting... sooo many use the Low RPM Turbo, which somehow has no real use in cappuccino....
Low-RPM turbo has the highest torque rating, at least in my tuning setup. Maintaining full boost pressure and shifting at the right time means the car is always in the boost range, and getting all of that low-end grunt to help pull it through and out of corners. Pair that with Engine Balancing and Port/Polish and it zips.

Different strokes though, eh? Cheers.
 
Low-RPM turbo has the highest torque rating, at least in my tuning setup. Maintaining full boost pressure and shifting at the right time means the car is always in the boost range, and getting all of that low-end grunt to help pull it through and out of corners. Pair that with Engine Balancing and Port/Polish and it zips.

Different strokes though, eh? Cheers.
Ok, of course that can make the difference, I rarely drive with MT anyway and now that I have to use the pad anyway.. and with AT the LRPM Turbo doesn't do anything because you're never really in the speed range... Come on your Cappu because after the turn up the hill and how much speed do you have there?
 
I use auto. I can't get under 1.03. It's driving me "crazee"!
Do you use assistants and if so which ones? I like driving the Cappu only with a countersteer, because then you can throw it into the corners beautifully... With the gas pedal you can increase/extend the drift, and with the brake pedal you interrupt the drift directly with an understeer if you If the brake is released again, he pulls back into the curve.
 
Use @praiano63 tune and you should be able to get under 1 min lap times, and I passed the leader on lap 4/5.
You can do with without resorting to meta tunes. A stock S660 can get pretty close to a minute (with a bone stock S660 I was able to eek out a 1:01.7, and tuned only knocked that down to 1:00.9). I did all these races with 76hp S660 on comp suspension, intake/header/exhaust, roll bars at 6, front camber at 1.5, MT, ABS only, nothing else. Then did them again and blew the AI away with a 400PP tuned Cappuccino. This series was super fun.

For OP, practice more. Do a time trial by yourself and focus on lap times without the AI there. Post up a video of your attempts if you're still having issues so we can see where you're struggling.

Turn one coming down the hill to the tightening left, you need to stay far right, and balance the car on the brakes NOT TOO MUCH and hit the apex well enough to carry all the speed you can down the straight. The next corner is the blind left, I took this in third, stay right and use the area where the curbing gets wider as a brake marker, slightly braking and turning in before seeing the corner, once again carrying as much speed as possible as you full throttle through the next slight right. Next, brake just after the crest, moving far to the right and ensuring you slow enough to hit the apex of the next sharp left, once again sensitive with the braking. This is important because the exit speed here is going to carry you full, or nearly full, throttle through the next soft left and uphill right over the finish line. Even on expert, the AI are very slow here and it is an important passing area. You might need to swallow all the curb on the inside or plan on staying outside to get around slow AI.

The key with Keis is always momentum. You brake too much, need to drop a gear, mess up a corner etc. and it takes a long time to make up that speed.
 
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Ok, of course that can make the difference, I rarely drive with MT anyway and now that I have to use the pad anyway.. and with AT the LRPM Turbo doesn't do anything because you're never really in the speed range... Come on your Cappu because after the turn up the hill and how much speed do you have there?
149-151 km/h at the crest of the hill before braking.
 

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Here's a run I did today basically just for this thread. These races are fun, so it was a good excuse to do one again!

This run was in the Cappuccino at 399.53PP, so basically as close to 400 one can get. High RPM turbo, racing intake/header/exhaust, racing brake pads, racing computer, comp suspension with minor changes... nothing too special. Very predictable, solid, and has enough power to stomp the AI.



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Not a perfect run by any means, but I overtook the lead at the beginning of lap 5 and gained 10sec on them. I kept blowing the apex of turn 2.

As far as my speed at the top of the hill going into 2 I'm right around 145-148kmh, but I think I was revving this little thing out too long and should have shifted sooner.

Hope this helps!
 
Here's a run I did today basically just for this thread. These races are fun, so it was a good excuse to do one again!

This run was in the Cappuccino at 399.53PP, so basically as close to 400 one can get. High RPM turbo, racing intake/header/exhaust, racing brake pads, racing computer, comp suspension with minor changes... nothing too special. Very predictable, solid, and has enough power to stomp the AI.



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Not a perfect run by any means, but I overtook the lead at the beginning of lap 5 and gained 10sec on them. I kept blowing the apex of turn 2.

As far as my speed at the top of the hill going into 2 I'm right around 145-148kmh, but I think I was revving this little thing out too long and should have shifted sooner.

Hope this helps!

Interesting.. you use less downforce and can therefore drive with significantly more power...

But I'm also quite happy with mine.... I can only do 135 km/h on the mountain, but it's also possible under 1 minute.....
 

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Interesting.. you use less downforce and can therefore drive with significantly more power...

But I'm also quite happy with mine.... I can only do 135 km/h on the mountain, but it's also possible under 1 minute.....
I'm only doing about 130kmh at the start/finish hill as well, earlier I was speaking about the hill going up to turn two.. the longest straight on the track. Our cars were pretty even power wise it seems. It's rare that I tune downforce in road cars.

And yes, all but two of my laps were sub 1min, so I'd say it's pretty possible! I'm sure there are many faster people out there in the 58's-57's, but I'm pretty content with my pace!
 
I'm only doing about 130kmh at the start/finish hill as well, earlier I was speaking about the hill going up to turn two.. the longest straight on the track. Our cars were pretty even power wise it seems. It's rare that I tune downforce in road cars.

And yes, all but two of my laps were sub 1min, so I'd say it's pretty possible! I'm sure there are many faster people out there in the 58's-57's, but I'm pretty content with my pace!
Absolutely.. your times are very good.... I also mean the mountain between curves 1 and 2... mine only manages 135 there because it has less HP than yours and then also more downforce.
With my contribution I just wanted to show how I built mine and that it works well even though I only ride AG and only Pad with it.
 
Do you use assistants and if so which ones? I like driving the Cappu only with a countersteer, because then you can throw it into the corners beautifully... With the gas pedal you can increase/extend the drift, and with the brake pedal you interrupt the drift directly with an understeer if you If the brake is released again, he pulls back into the curve.
No assists, TCS 0. Cappu around 120HP.
 
No assists, TCS 0. Cappu around 120HP.
My setup is 72KW, which is about 98 hp, but I can handle it well.... of course in Tokyo I have to be very careful and drive really well in the corners, otherwise I'll be hopelessly crushed on the straights... and a longer one I have to use gear ratio there.
 
My setup is 72KW, which is about 98 hp, but I can handle it well.... of course in Tokyo I have to be very careful and drive really well in the corners, otherwise I'll be hopelessly crushed on the straights... and a longer one I have to use gear ratio there.
My problem is just Lake Maggiore :(
 
Interesting.. you use less downforce and can therefore drive with significantly more power...

But I'm also quite happy with mine.... I can only do 135 km/h on the mountain, but it's also possible under 1 minute.....
Will try it later when i'm home.
 
Yeah, I don't understand how so many are seemingly winning Lago Maggiore easily when they're all using tuning and upgrades virtually identical to me. Must just be a crap driver, I guess lol.
Learn the track, there are sections where you don't need to apply brake at all.
 
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