Linux Transition Thread
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The Alternate CD is the old method of installing it (no GUI). Now it's mainly used for OEM installations and for PCs that have less than 256MB RAM. The Desktop CD is the live CD plus installer. I find it to be much faster (as long as you meet the RAM requirements). 14 minutes.... I couldn't believe it.
Are the speeds slow? I remember downloading via torrent the day after release and it was very fast with lots of people sharing.
BTW, do you have an ATI card? I was just thinking, if you have wireless and an ATI card, this might not be a fun experience for you.
Yeah, be careful, Ubuntu is a virus. It's already taken over two of my computers. They came into contact with an infected CD-R. It said "Breezy Badger" so I thought it was a game or something and installed it, but I was wrong. Oh well.
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I guess there's a virus called Ubuntu. The OS isn't a virus.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, I have a dual boot system now. Windows then Fedora. Haven't booted into Fedora. I left my Windows side up to download. Hopefully it finished. Windows Updates kept making my Mozilla crash. I let it do it's thing last night, restarted this morning and let the file download. It was at like 200MB when I left going at over 450kbps.
I'm gonna download CD Bruner XP or whatever it's called since it works great.
When the download "finished", I'm left with an ISO and a PART file. What is the PART file and does it need to go on the CD with the ISO?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, I have a dual boot system now. Windows then Fedora. Haven't booted into Fedora. I left my Windows side up to download. Hopefully it finished. Windows Updates kept making my Mozilla crash. I let it do it's thing last night, restarted this morning and let the file download. It was at like 200MB when I left going at over 450kbps.
I'm gonna download CD Bruner XP or whatever it's called since it works great.
When the download "finished", I'm left with an ISO and a PART file. What is the PART file and does it need to go on the CD with the ISO?
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Well I stand corrected. I was tired when I posted that so I was too lazy to actually look.
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It was a joke
Anyways, yes, to GT4_Rule's question about the Alternate CD. Hang on to it though, the Desktop CD might not play nice with your computer and the Alternate will come in handy.
And no to standard's question, don't include the PART file. Actually, it shouldn't even be there. I might be wrong, but that PART file indicates that the file you are downloading isn't finished yet. If you're sure that it's finished, then just ignore it.
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It was a joke
Anyways, no, don't include the PART file. Actually, it shouldn't even be there. I might be wrong, but that PART file indicates that the file you are downloading isn't finished yet.
Ohh. Ok, that's what I thought. It was like 300MB so I didn't know. Well, we'll see if the download is done... in about an hour.
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Yeah the PART file is showing that the download is still downloading. I don't know why the PART file would still be there if you "finished" unless the download didn't really finish. 
Edit: Nevermind. I'm just gonna stop posting.
Edit: Nevermind. I'm just gonna stop posting.
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LOL.
Well, Windows Update was a bitch and restarted my computer. Come home and Fedora is up.
Anyways, I'm downloading now. Gonna go do my homework. Should be done by the time I get back.
EDIT: About 30 mins to download and burn the disc. Leaving for the install.
Uhh ok. I have to use Partition Magic and delete Fedora.
QParted is confusing me.
Well, Windows Update was a bitch and restarted my computer. Come home and Fedora is up.
Anyways, I'm downloading now. Gonna go do my homework. Should be done by the time I get back.
EDIT: About 30 mins to download and burn the disc. Leaving for the install.
Uhh ok. I have to use Partition Magic and delete Fedora.
QParted is confusing me.
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Good news: Ubuntu 6.10 is installed.
Bad news: It doesn't work.
Startup, select Ubuntu generic mode.
I have ubuntu generic, ubuntu generic (recovery), memtest, and XP.
EDIT: Fresh Install. Still hangs. I'm now downloading the Alternate Install CD. I have 512MB of RAM but whatever. I'm gonna find a CDR or get one from a friend and burn it at like 2X. I'm gonna use MD5sums to make sure it works though. I'm tired of this crap.
Bad news: It doesn't work.
Startup, select Ubuntu generic mode.
I have ubuntu generic, ubuntu generic (recovery), memtest, and XP.
EDIT: Fresh Install. Still hangs. I'm now downloading the Alternate Install CD. I have 512MB of RAM but whatever. I'm gonna find a CDR or get one from a friend and burn it at like 2X. I'm gonna use MD5sums to make sure it works though. I'm tired of this crap.
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Windows got screwed up.
Ubuntu freshly on, only OS on comp.
Still hangs. I get to the GRUB. Let it boot into Ubuntu. Right after the GRUB, I get "Starting Up..." then i get the flashing underscore. 10 mins I let it sit there and it didn't do anything.
So for now, I'm gonna use the Live CD. Pretty pissed I am since I have zero music. Lost like 1800 songs. But that one is Window's fault.
Ubuntu freshly on, only OS on comp.
Still hangs. I get to the GRUB. Let it boot into Ubuntu. Right after the GRUB, I get "Starting Up..." then i get the flashing underscore. 10 mins I let it sit there and it didn't do anything.
So for now, I'm gonna use the Live CD. Pretty pissed I am since I have zero music. Lost like 1800 songs. But that one is Window's fault.
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I've read of bad problems of installing Ubuntu 6.10. Messing up badly. Makes me wonder if I want to risk it or just keep 6.06.
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Well, I downloaded the Alternate Install CD. I hear that it works better than the live CD. I'm gonna go to a friend's house and run the MD5sums and make sure it works.
If it does, I'm gonna download CD Burner XP Pro 3 and burn the ISO. I'm at school right now, 9:54 AM. I get out at 2:54. Should be able to report back by 5 or 6 depending on homework.
I'm sure the Live CD install would work, but when I installed, I just said wipe the whole drive and do default install. I can't understand the QParted program very well.
If it does, I'm gonna download CD Burner XP Pro 3 and burn the ISO. I'm at school right now, 9:54 AM. I get out at 2:54. Should be able to report back by 5 or 6 depending on homework.
I'm sure the Live CD install would work, but when I installed, I just said wipe the whole drive and do default install. I can't understand the QParted program very well.
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AFAIK, the only problems so far are from those upgrading from Dapper to Edgy. Clean install works like a charm (besides the occasional bad burn).
I don't know what the problem is, but if you're dual-booting, it's always a good idea to install Windows first. Also, it's a good idea to back up everything, especially when you're messing with partitions. I know it's too late now, but at least you'll remember it next time.
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Well. I backed up my music. Then when I went to access it there were a bunch of 0kb files with names in Wingdings. Like a virus.
Total size of it all was like 10GB. It's a 5GB MP3 Player.
I deleted all partitions and did a clean install of Ubuntu. It didn't work so now I am going to burn the Alternate Install CD and see if that works. If not, then I'm back on Microshaft's Windblows.
EDIT: Didn't work. But it's a start. Right now, it boots. Kinda. It brings up starting up... then mouse flashes and then it brings up Ubuntu login. So I log in as zach. enter password.
It's just a command prompt though. I booted into the OS, not the Recovery mode. What's the deal?
Total size of it all was like 10GB. It's a 5GB MP3 Player.
I deleted all partitions and did a clean install of Ubuntu. It didn't work so now I am going to burn the Alternate Install CD and see if that works. If not, then I'm back on Microshaft's Windblows.
EDIT: Didn't work. But it's a start. Right now, it boots. Kinda. It brings up starting up... then mouse flashes and then it brings up Ubuntu login. So I log in as zach. enter password.
It's just a command prompt though. I booted into the OS, not the Recovery mode. What's the deal?
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I thought it was clean installs too. Oh well. I might just stick with 6.06 anyways.
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Did you do a server install instead? It seems like you don't have a graphical environment installed. First try this at the command prompt:
Code:
startxIf that doesn't work, then try:
Code:
sudo aptitude update
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sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktopCD-Rs cost a few cents. Try out the live CD, so you have an idea of what works and what doesn't.
There's nothing wrong with sticking with Dapper. Besides, Feisty Fawn is only six months away!
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Reinstalled. Hangs in the same spot as before. I'm gonna put Windows back on until this crap gets fixed.
Or my Ubuntu disc comes from shipit.ubuntu.com
Or my Ubuntu disc comes from shipit.ubuntu.com
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My gma works with a guy who is a Linux Guru. She talked to him and he gave me a 6.06 Kubuntu and a 6.06 Ubuntu disc.
He said he won't run 6.10 until they work the bugs out. I can see why. All is well now, I'm on Ubuntu loaded up with a ton of apps. I can't see myself installing anymore software. Except maybe stuff like codecs and whatnot for streaming and MP3's.
He said he won't run 6.10 until they work the bugs out. I can see why. All is well now, I'm on Ubuntu loaded up with a ton of apps. I can't see myself installing anymore software. Except maybe stuff like codecs and whatnot for streaming and MP3's.
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I'm currently downloading the ISO image for Edgy Eft (48% completed), I have one concern, is there any way of finding out if it will support my Laptop's integrated network adaptor?
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It supported the network device on my mobo.
Depends on how new it is. That, and whether it even installs correctly.
Depends on how new it is. That, and whether it even installs correctly.
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Thanks, I did a search and found a linux driver for it.
I asked because during my lifetime I have used quite a few Ubuntu distributions on various desktops but this is to be my first time installing it on a laptop and since I am intending this to be an everyday laptop a wireless connection is very important (I have always found driver support to be Linux's major failing).
I asked because during my lifetime I have used quite a few Ubuntu distributions on various desktops but this is to be my first time installing it on a laptop and since I am intending this to be an everyday laptop a wireless connection is very important (I have always found driver support to be Linux's major failing).
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There's nothing wrong with sticking with Dapper. Besides, Feisty Fawn is only six months away!
How often are they doing that LTS? Every year or 2? Are these releases(Edgy, FF) just development versions or something?
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Work on new Ubuntu distributions starts as soon as the current one is fully launched, the version number on an Ubuntu release tells you when it was launched (ie 6.10, in which 6 represents 2006 and 10 represents October) they are launched as soon as the are finished so, while there is a rough date to be completed by, there is very little precise scheduling however new versions seem to be appearing more frequently these days. LTSs seem to appear randomly throughout the Ubuntu development cycle. So far I have been unable to find out how Ubuntu decides what will be an LTS and what will simply be another version, from the Ubuntu website, however I have heard several people state that an LTS occurs after every 4 stable releases.
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I remember reading somewhere that there would be an LTS every two years (or every 4 releases). So expect the next LTS to be 8.04.
Well, I wouldn't say that they're development versions, since they are being advertised as stable releases. Think of them as testbeds for future LTS releases, the same way Fedora Core and openSUSE are testbeds for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktops, respectively.
Although these (Edgy, Feisty, Feisty+1...) are stable operating systems, there are some risks, because they tend to include beta software. They are simply starting points for future LTS releases. Basically, Ubuntu provides the user with two choices:
1. Install the LTS, which has been tested for stability
2. Install the latest stable (or development) build, and enjoy more features
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I know I said I wanted a stable system so I would limit the experimenting and customizing, but I should have known that it wouldn't last long 
I decided to create a Vista-Mac hybrid using Ubuntu System Panel, Control Center, Beryl, Kiba-Dock, and a combination of different themes and icons. Credit goes to AqD for providing a hack for the Mac-style menubar (File Edit View etc).
I decided to create a Vista-Mac hybrid using Ubuntu System Panel, Control Center, Beryl, Kiba-Dock, and a combination of different themes and icons. Credit goes to AqD for providing a hack for the Mac-style menubar (File Edit View etc).
I know I said I wanted a stable system so I would limit the experimenting and customizing, but I should have known that it wouldn't last long
It's hard to keep away from the eye candy when you know it's there. I've given in too, and am using Kiba-dock again, plus Cairo-clock and gdesklets - and Beryl, of course 
A tip for Kiba-dock if you haven't already figured it out. To minimise the resource usage, in Gset-kiba turn off the animated background. This got my CPU activity back down to a sensible level
