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[VeeDoubleU]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mikail gets a 'talking to' just like Brooks did that one time, not that I would agree with it, but I doubt they'll be happy with him pointing out the dirtiness.

 

[graveltrap]

At least everyone now knows what to expect from online racing at Spa

 

[Vspectra]

Bring on the rain.

 

[GTjedi99]

If anyone else did that they would have been given a penalty that would put them in second

 

[Coiler]

All in all the whole story made the most damage for the event. If dangerous driving gives you just a 5s penalty you admitting its just a game and it does not matter what fancy brands you take as partners.

 

[gtpierre]

At least everyone now knows what to expect from online racing at Spa

Crazy fast Japanese kid with a very innovative strategy ?

 

[BadFlounder]

I love Mik’s Personality just like everyone else, but I’m sorry.....you just can’t let up like that. I just don’t understand that mentality. Finish within 5 seconds and he would have won the event. But by letting up he cost himself the event, and that’s on him. I won’t defend Fraga’s behavior, but TBF he was penalized for it. I just can’t understand Mik letting up out of frustration. This has always been the struggle for him it seems.....just a tiny bit of frustration in some critical moments, etc. The margin for error is so tiny at that level. I can’t even imagine how stressful it is for these guys. Everyone handles pressure differently. Obviously Mik has the pace. I hope to see him on the top step soon. But the blame here isn’t all on Fraga IMHO. Just my two cents.

 

[glassjaw]

You could cut the tension in the audience with a knife.

 

[VincentVendetta]

I'm sure there's someone in a suit somewhere racing about how this is great and how many people are talking about thus; that guy needs to be told to sit the **** down and shut up.

 

[meekrab]

So, just to put this in context. There's 2 cars going at 300kph through a flat out corner nose to tail and the one ahead intentionally lifts. What would happen in real life and what penalty would the driver get?

Drivers who would do something like that don't tend to make it to series where you can run 300 kph, but I imagine a black flag, broken nose, and the unemployment line would be the result.

 

[VeeDoubleU]

I love Mik’s Personality just like everyone else, but I’m sorry.....you just can’t let up like that. I just don’t understand that mentality. Finish within 5 seconds and he would have won the event. But by letting up he cost himself the event, and that’s on him. I won’t defend Fraga’s behavior, but TBF he was penalized for it. I just can’t understand Mik letting up out of frustration. This has always been the struggle for him.....just a tiny but if frustration gets the best of him in some critical moments. I think he has the pace and I hope to see him on the top step soon. But the blame here isn’t all on Fraga IMHO. Just my two cents.

He was saving fuel.

 

[Dylan]

I love Mik’s Personality just like everyone else, but I’m sorry.....you just can’t let up like that. I just don’t understand that mentality. Finish within 5 seconds and he would have won the event. But by letting up he cost himself the event, and that’s on him. I won’t defend Fraga’s behavior, but TBF he was penalized for it. I just can’t understand Mik letting up out of frustration. This has always been the struggle for him.....just a tiny but if frustration gets the best of him in some critical moments. I think he has the pace and I hope to see him on the top step soon. But the blame here isn’t all on Fraga IMHO. Just my two cents.

He said he had to save fuel after short filling on his last stop.
Edit: tree'd

 

[khkenni]

The fact that they showed Fraga lifting to block Mikail, and then afterwards Fraga saying he did it on purpose but didn't mean for it to be that bad.. Just a Joke that Fraga goes with the win here.

 

[Auditore]

These controversial race finishes are becoming more and more common,its such a sour note when the whole event is great.

 

[MortosDer]

Drivers who would do something like that don't tend to make it to series where you can run 300 kph, but I imagine a black flag, broken nose, and the unemployment line would be the result.

Hamilton kinda did it in 2017

 

[Arkseven]

Nah the plain stupid is the stewards awarding the victory to the dirty driver. This was a decision made to favor one person only. Had Hizal been at 4.9 it would have been a different penalty. How do I know..? Because it would have been 6 seconds if they really meant to punish Igor.

Cody sent Miya to the Shadow Realm and got 10 seconds.

Tell me exactly why Fraga had to be penalized with more than 5 seconds?

You guys are assuming so many things. "Had Hizal been at 4.9 it would have been a different penalty". "Had Hizal been at 2.9 it would have been a 2 second penalty"

Huh... good to see that the members of this forum have all the absolute information behind the scenes...

 

[kjeldsen]

I guess you'll have enough material for your article

Should be interesting.. Especially the indepth research into the sponsorship and personal relationship to the owner and founder of GT-Sport

 

[Famine]

Well. I think we can say that's shots fired.

Salzburg is in three weeks. Anyone reckon tempers will be soothed by then?

 

[Daverytimes]

Love the drama, this will bring more people into it.

Fraga was wrong, and he got punished.

Hizal was even more wrong for giving up, he could have won.

Cody lost any little goodwill I had for him.

Miyazono is my driver of the day, 3 pit stops, one massive accident, still came 4th only 8 sec behind the leader. He could have easily won this with Igor and Hizals squabbling.

 

[queleuleu]

Don't treat Hizal as the victim here.

Everyone knows what Igor did. It's wrong, of course.

If Hizal could keep his head cool and wait for the stewards decision, he would won that. But noooo... he literally stop racing. Like, really? How much salt do you have on your head to act like that?

Again, what Igor did is wrong. But what Hizal did is plain stupid.

We shouldn't be too harsh with Hizal. At the end, he's just a young student playing racing games. Just imagine for a second the pressure and frustration during this race. Fraga actually deals with pressure every week with his real races and real race car. Now, all these GT events looks cool and all, but a damage system is essential at this point, too much ping pong races.

 

[Gamrac]

All in all the whole story made the most damage for the event. If dangerous driving gives you just a 5s penalty you admitting its just a game and it does not matter what fancy brands you take as partners.

it is just a game

 

[VincentVendetta]

Well. I think we can say that's shots fired.

Salzburg is in three weeks. Anyone reckon tempers will be soothed by then?

You kidding?

The Amazon is still burning, isn't it?

 

[bnight]

So, just to put this in context. There's 2 cars going at 300kph through a flat out corner nose to tail and the one ahead intentionally lifts. What would happen in real life and what penalty would the driver get?

In real life Fraga would have ended in the walls on the right. However the physics in GT Sports are a joke. However As it was the case with the Hamilton break test on Seb in Baku the driver behind is at fault in case the car in-front stops or lift off. I don’t think this is a dirty move i think is a pure racing. What happen at the end of the straight is different however again from F1 there is always someone doing the same move as Fraga did on Hazal. I actually am happy to see drivers to do what it takes to win even if it’s not always pretty. Same as what Verstapen does in F1 I guess.

 

[Pigems]

I’m surprised PD let that comment air, Lightnings pissed.

 

[MikeyLCR]

He was saving fuel.

I don't buy that, he was sulking, If he'd have passed him I bet he wouldn't have been fuel saving

 

[mastretta_mx]

You guys are assuming so many things. "Had Hizal been at 4.9 it would have been a different penalty". "Had Hizal been at 2.9 it would have been a 2 second penalty"

Huh... good to see that the members of this forum have all the absolute information behind the scenes...

Completely agree; whith that kind of commens they are impliying corruption :S

 

[BadFlounder]

He said he had to save fuel after short filling on his last stop.
Edit: tree'd

Gotcha. yeah I did see that on the post show, although TBH I am not sure that I believe that. I’d like to see the data. It looked like during the race itself he kind of threw his hands up out of frustration. Just my impression. If it truly was a fuel issue then what is the complaining about? If that was the issue then he would have been 2nd no matter what, correct?

 

[zzz_pt]

Don't treat Hizal as the victim here.

Everyone knows what Igor did. It's wrong, of course.

If Hizal could keep his head cool and wait for the stewards decision, he would won that. But noooo... he literally stop racing. Like, really? How much salt do you have on your head to act like that?

Again, what Igor did is wrong. But what Hizal did is plain stupid.

This post is stupid.

I think they only did that because Lightning gave up, had he not given up I’d bet they would have made the penalty enough for him to win.

He didn't give up. He tried to pass cleanly 3 times. One of them Igor let him pass on T1 to get the slipstream (which is ridiculous strong BTW). Second time, Igor lifts mid eau rouge, leading to Hizal almost losing his car. 3 time, on the outside, door closed (on the limit of the rules but IRL could lead to what happened between Rosberg and Lewis a few years back).

Hizal was risking getting smashed into a wall because Igor was bent on driving dirty.

The penalty should have been awarded within 1 lap of the incident. That would make everything transparent and fair.

 

[praiano63]

I love Mik’s Personality just like everyone else, but I’m sorry.....you just can’t let up like that. I just don’t understand that mentality. Finish within 5 seconds and he would have won the event. But by letting up he cost himself the event, and that’s on him. I won’t defend Fraga’s behavior, but TBF he was penalized for it. I just can’t understand Mik letting up out of frustration. This has always been the struggle for him it seems.....just a tiny bit of frustration in some critical moments, etc. The margin for error is so tiny at that level. I can’t even imagine how stressful it is for these guys. Everyone handles pressure differently. Obviously Mik has the pace. I hope to see him on the top step soon. But the blame here isn’t all on Fraga IMHO. Just my two cents.

I agree 100 % with this. Mika was still on igor's rear end with 2 or more laps i don't remember well. And softer tires. Next time don't give up Mike . You're the man.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Was there ever a clear angle showing who pushed Rubalar off on the first lap of the last race?