Mad FinnTuners Co.™ - Finished 301010 with GT-Rdammerung - BIG THANKS everyone!

[Kingofweasles]

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[Kingofweasles]

Kingofweasles - Alright people, look at this man. This man has guts. Not only to pick the outright craziest road car in our line-up as his first choice but also to mention that he has something to learn. 👍 Thanks for the review! It's interesting to get new people here with new styles, yours tells quite a lot about how the car drives from a "psychological" point of view. Apparently it's every bit as difficult as I thought... about our test driver, we'll make an introduction of him some day.

Ah, stop...Your making me blush! Anyways, the real reason i wrote that review the way i did was because i was more concerned with keeping it on the track than setting a fast lap-time at first. That, and i had just jumped out of setting qualifying laps for the GTPLMS race's LMP & GTS classes into the Viper ACR...You'd probably be feeling the same way too!

As for the TVR Speed Twelve '00, i'm working on it...I'll give a much more technical review, as i do intend to race it when i can.

 

[Greycap]

I know the feeling. Back when I had just completed the Formula GT championship I jumped straight into a Nismo R-Tune with N3 tyres. The handling was quite interesting in comparison to the FGT I had driven for some four thousand kilometres. Racing the Speed 12? You indeed do have guts... I'd keep that car very far from any event for several reasons, the smallest of them not being the tyre wear.

 

[dcalde78]

Wow, I think it's been almost a year since I was here. Good to see that everything is still going so well. Though, from the front page, there don't seem to be many more cars...

Unfortunately, I can't test any more cars, at least not for a while, as my PS2 doesn't work any more, and - sadly - I can't run GT4 on my PS3.

 

[Kurei]

Guess who ?

I'm back (don't have a heart attack), and I've managed to work some free time into my schedule, and I thought "why not pay the guys at MFT a visit ?"

So here I am, month's after disappearing from my last review (can't even remember it), and I'd like to start reviewing cars for you guys again.

Only problem is I've been gone for too long and don't really know where to start , think you guys can get a list together (and links) of interesting, quirky, or just stupid fast cars you'd like to see reviewed ?

If so I'd love to start reviewing again 👍

 

[Leonidae]

welcome back, you two! we' might compile a list of less popular cars that we've released so you guys can sharpen your skills.

 

[Greycap]

OK, here goes. Our test driver recommends:

From my selection:




From Leonidae's selection:





In addition to those ones I'd especially like you, Kurei, to drive the car I'm building at the moment when I'll get it released. The date has been decided already and it won't take long. It'll be one for the best, just like it was in real life. The rest will be revealed...

 

[Watchman]

In addition to those ones I'd especially like you, Kurei, to drive the car I'm building at the moment when I'll get it released. The date has been decided already and it won't take long. It'll be one for the best, just like it was in real life. The rest will be revealed...

Sounds pretty interesting.. I may get my hands on this one 👍

 

[Kurei]

In addition to those ones I'd especially like you, Kurei, to drive the car I'm building at the moment when I'll get it released. The date has been decided already and it won't take long. It'll be one for the best, just like it was in real life. The rest will be revealed...

Another shocker eh ?, well you got me interested, I haven't had a good shock in some time, in the meantime though I'll look into finding the cars you both suggested, really looking forward to the NSX, Isuzu, and maybe even 300Croozin, just got to find a good *cough* 'Croozin' place to go to...

 

[C-ZETA]

Hmm, Leonidae recommends the Isuzu? Don't worry, nothing wrong with it, just wondering why Leonidae decided to pick that tuneup.

 

[Leonidae]

mostly because it's been neglected, and secondly, it's pretty powerful for an NA 1.6l engine from it's era. Oh, and it handles nicely. And sounds nice too.

 

[C-ZETA]

Fine, I see. Although, since I haven't tried the tune properly, I struggle to see how it sounds nice. Mind you, there is a racing exhaust i there... 👍

 

[Kurei]

AMG SLR McLaren 700 Edition '03 - Review

When I first saw this car, it reminded me of a boat in a sense, large, pale color, heavy, etc. However the comments said otherwise, that weight had been reduced, but during the build, I realized something about that.

It is still just as heavy as a GT-R…

But regardless I carried on, installed the parts, selected wheels, changed the oil and 'hosed her down, now ready for a run, I decided to head to Circuit de la Sarthe 1, as it actually has some good bumps and sections for a testing track, and I may be coming here more often for tests (that of MFT and of my own Top speed ventures ).

Once on the track cruising to the start line, I fell in love with the rumble of the Engine, it was like a NASCAR engine, but better, in all sorts of terms, but that’s another discussion, the first chicane was coming and I readied myself for the ‘boat effect’ to kick in. One turn of the wheel, and the car followed gently, but precise, no sudden jerk, a very smooth transition, turned right and it did it again, no fluke, impressive 💡. Now I was on the path to the start line, and I dug my foot in.

Instant response from the engine, 700HP all naturally aspirated is no joke, especially when the tires stick no problem, I continued through the course, and came to the higher speed bends, where I discovered a flaw I’ve recently encounter in my own high speed, high HP machines. In some longer corners where you move at a faster, and more sustained speed, front tire traction arrives at initial turn in, but slowly (or quickly, in this case) traction fades (I've had this with S3's and R-spec tires) and you find yourself creeping towards sand traps, only solution to this is to ease off the throttle and let the tires re-gain their grip, hitting the brakes at these speeds is just asking for trouble, so I let off, the car slowed and the wind gently guided me back into position, and the car continued to fly ‘straight as an arrow’, fitting really

The rest of the course convinced me that MFT had essentially brought a street car up to the performance package you usually only get in race cars, very strong acceleration, excellent brakes (with help from the rear flap) and hell, if I had grabbed the slicks from MFT’s garage, the traction fade issue probably would be no more and this would probably spank a few race cars no problem, well done 👍.

 

[Leonidae]

*cough* it has similar setup as AM V8 Vantage, dual superchargers.. you're slipping, old buddy.

 

[Greycap]

Our plans for upcoming cars were going to be different from what will to materialize. The idea was to make a couple of fast sports cars but a quick look at the calendar changed it on a short notice... to be released, one car that tried its best to kill a Finnish racing star and one that eventually succeeded after one close call. These ones show what the term "Flying Finns" was at its best.

 

[Leonidae]

Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 1½'85

529 bhp, 560 Nm, 940 kg


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Parts to fit:
Turbo Kit Stage 3
R3 Tyres
Oil Change

Suspension
Spring Rate: 8.0 / 6.0
Ride Height: 115 / 115
Bound: 8 / 8
Rebound: 10 / 10
Camber: 2.0 / 2.0
Toe: 0 / 1
Stabilizers: 4 / 4

Brake Controller
Brakes: 12 / 10

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.756
2nd: 1.825
3rd: 1.311
4th: 1.030
5th: 0.840
Final Gear: 4.000

Autoset 13

LSD
Initial: 10/25
Acceleration: 10/13
Deceleration: 5/40

VCD
Variable Centre Differential: 33


Downforce
Amount: 13 / 18

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0



This was hardly what Peugeot had in mind when they came up with the tiny 205 hatchback. The little car quickly became a savior of the French manufacturer who was at the brink of doom in the early 80s. The lovely shape followed the path of the Golf, which was penned by the same Italian firm as the 205, Pininfarina. Soon the range was extended from the humdrum grocery getters to perky hot hatches, but it wasn't until the rally circus demanded Peugeot to come up with something special, and this led to the birth of the true little lion.

This mid-engined, turbocharged AWD monster was just a silhouette of the mundane little citycar. Over 400 bhp propelled this lightweight specialist into ridiculous speeds. But as the Group B competitors came up with more power and technology, Peugeot responded with equal methods. A bigger turbo and a special oil developed by Shell were enough to bring the power beyond 520bhp, and once again, the little French lion roared ahead of the pack, especially after the tricky behavior in the jumps and corners had been tuned out. Have fun with this little beast, but be mindful. It has a tendency to store the momentum of the rear end after the turns, which can lead into a spin or snap-back, as the car is mid-engined. Even AWD can't sort that out.. Only a Flying Finn can.

 

[MinoltaMan89]

That looks good...I'll try it, but I won't be able to for a couple hours because I'm not home right now.

 

[BLITZ_69]

Just out of curiosity, how would you change your NSX R1 titan or GT1 for other NSX's? I have a few I'm working on right now and am just wondering if I can take advantage of your pre-made ones.

 

[Watchman]

I couldn't test the R31, because I haven't got it, but I'll test this one 👍

 

[Leonidae]

Have fun.

 

[Watchman]

Have fun.

Thanks.. Well, first I hadn't that much fun, because on my first lap I had some spins here and there.. Thanks to late braking .. But after some laps, I noticed something: When you brake late, don't steer too much, just a little bit and you'll be ok.. And if you steer too much, you'll get enormous oversteer and you have to countersteer.. A little tip: Lift off the throttle and steer carefully.. And tap the brakes a little bit.. If you do this, you won't get that much trouble as if you would countersteer like and the whole thing wouldn't end in a 180° spin 👍 .. Nonetheless, the acceleration is very good.. Of course there's wheelspin in 1st gear, but hey, you don't need to worry, you can floor it as much as you want, the wheelspin isn't that enormous and it's controllable.. The brakes are phenomenal.. Giving oversteer when braking, which makes the whole thing a little bit more interesting/ difficult .. Balance is great, as always.. The car's very precise at any time and very fast through corners.. Sometimes you'll get understeer, if you brake too late, but this is no problem.. Just lift the throttle and steer and you'll be ok.. But that's not all.. You can even drift the car, especially through slow corners (tested it at Grand Valley Speedway, of course!) ..

All in all: This is a great car which can sometimes be a 🤬 but nonetheless a fun car to drive and very fast..

Positive aspects:

- Acceleration
- Brakes
- Balance
- Drifting Abbilities
- Top Speed (very good for this sort of car!)

Negative aspects:

- Sometimes there's too much oversteer when braking and steering at the same time, but you can manage this easily..

8.5/10

Thanks for the great tune, Leo 👍


EDIT: Just went to tune the GLT from you, Greycap, and I noticed that I can't adjust the gear ratios as listed.. I've fitted all parts as shown and I don't know why I can't have the same gear ratios as you have.. Maybe because I'm using a new GLT? Is yours a 10.0 km special? I'm really confused now and don't know what to do.. The lowest ratio for the first gear is 2.674 and for the second it's 1.880..

 

[Leonidae]

told you that it might be a handful, didn't I?

and yes, there might be a glitch in the tranny..

 

[Watchman]

told you that it might be a handful, didn't I?

and yes, there might be a glitch in the tranny..

Yeah you did

Alright, maybe I should use the tranny glitch in order to be able to get those gear ratios, but I'll wait for Greycap to tell me..

 

[Rotary Junkie]

tranny glitch

When people call that a glitch it makes my head hurt.

It's just how the game's gear ratio setting system is. Auto-set gives as close as possible to a given ratio spread for what it is set at regardless of final drive; this results in different ranges of gear ratios being available. The overall range of adjustment available, then, is very wide; the only way they could do better would be to allow infinite (well, within a range of some sort obviously) adjustment of each gear, but it would be too easy to screw up and would confuse newer players more.

 

[Watchman]

When people call that a glitch it makes my head hurt.

I'm sorry for this

It's just how the game's gear ratio setting system is. Auto-set gives as close as possible to a given ratio spread for what it is set at regardless of final drive; this results in different ranges of gear ratios being available. The overall range of adjustment available, then, is very wide; the only way they could do better would be to allow infinite (well, within a range of some sort obviously) adjustment of each gear, but it would be too easy to screw up and would confuse newer players more.

Thanks for the in-depth description

 

[dcalde78]

Sadly, there'll be no reviews from me, at least until I can find out a way of playing GT4 on a 160GB PS3. I tried before, but sadly, it wouldn't work.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I'm sorry for this

Not your fault so many people call it such. 👍

 

[Kurei]

Amuse NSX GT1 '02 - Review

Amuse has always made excellent cars, and their popularity really grew when they started participating in Hot Version’s “Touge Showdown” series, starting with the R1 version of their golden S2000, and capping it off with the white, wide-body S2000 GT1 in “Touge MAX”, and now MFT has released a car in conjunction with them, a very nice looking NSX.

I started building the car and came to their selection for tires, race-spec tires….on a car with plenty of mechanical grip and additional downforce, I questioned this but decided that testing would reveal the reasons why, so I equipped the race tires and threw a pair of S3’s on the trailer just in case I got curious.

The courses selected for testing were Deep Forest and Trail Mountain, both in reverse direction to test out the “Touge” aspect for this car, first up was Deep Forest, coming around the long right-hand bend before the climb up the hill to the start line, the NSX flew into the corner with neutral handling and tons of grip, very, very precise, I steered to carve through the apex and it followed the line perfectly, almost too well, before I realized it I was out of the corner but still sticking to the inside of the track, when I should’ve slowly eased towards the outside of the track, for a car to keep its grip like that so well, is something I haven’t even seen some race-cars do.

Part of that though, I believe is the R3 tires, I think their too much really, so I threw on the S3’s from the trailer, loaded the car, and went over to Trail Mountain for the next test. Once there and on the track I started going through the gears, “2nd…good, 3rd….pulling strong, 4th…still pulling pretty well, and 5th…no..wait, corner !!!”. Flew through the chicane and starting the uphill climb into the ‘forest’ of sorts, the car still retaining tons of grip despite the tire change, zoomed past the tree’s, zipped through the tunnel, grabbed the ‘gutter’ on the uphill right-hander which flung’ me into the next tunnel, breezed past the rocks and stone faces into the final tunnel and headed back to the start-line, all the while not even noticing a change in grip from tire selection, yet still providing the performance of R-spec tires.

Despite being a MR vehicle, MFT has taken this and made it into a very quick, obedient, and fun Tuner car without any spin-out factor, so my final thoughts on this car is this…

Those Touge Monster’s better watch their backs


In other news, the pace of reviews from me well probably start slowing down, I finally found a few guys in my High Performance class who live and breath cars similar to how I do, and we've started holding mini-challenge's of sorts, upcoming challenge is to see who can build the fastest M3 GTR (under certain rules and limits) and who can drive a course the fastest 👍

 

[Greycap]

Lancia Delta S4 Evo '86

580 bhp, 532 Nm, 890 kg


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Parts to fit:
Turbo Kit Stage 3
R3 Tyres
Oil Change

Suspension
Spring Rate: 7.0 / 6.0
Ride Height: 125 / 130
Bound: 4 / 7
Rebound: 9 / 8
Camber: 2.0 / 2.0
Toe: 0 / -2
Stabilizers: 2 / 4

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 5

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.962
2nd: 2.003
3rd: 1.556
4th: 1.270
5th: 1.044
Final Gear: 3.400

Autoset 9

LSD
Initial: 5 / 10
Acceleration: 5 / 25
Deceleration: 5 / 20

VCD
Variable Centre Differential: 25

Downforce
Amount: 13 / 18

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0

23 years ago today, on the 2nd May 1986, the rallying world stopped. Arguably the fastest crew ever to participate in the world championship was no more, Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto having lost their lives during Tour de Corse. What happened, nobody still knows and highly likely never will. All we know is that their car shot off the road in a tight hairpin, crashed into a ravine and exploded into flames. The crash told everything about the Group B cars: far too fast for even the very best to handle, fragile and outright dangerous. The Delta S4 was the culmination of taking the performance to the extremities, the car didn't even have a plate under the fuselage, protecting the aluminium fuel tanks... because it saved weight.

For the two men who could push this monster to its real limits, and who took their secret with them. The legacy lives on.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Bravo! Sergio and Henri would be proud.👍 I'll try it later on.