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[Jakes7nc]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

 

[Stakado]

Do you imagine a souls game fan complaining about difficulty?

 

[BigSarj]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

The fact that people are beating it should be motivation enough, maybe. But I haven't tried that test yet. It did take me well over a half hour to beat the test at Autopolis with the Supra. I had the same reaction I would have had if the Leafs scored an overtime goal in the playoffs, though. Maybe a little much for a license test.

 

[Nuschel01]

Compared to GT1-GT5 golding even the wet tests was a walk in the park. With the 917K you just gotta stay on the dry line and you'll be fine.

 

[Strittan]

Compared to GT1-GT5 golding even the wet tests was a walk in the park. With the 917K you just gotta stay on the dry line and you'll be fine.

Do you use a pad or a wheel?

By the way, I feel you OP. I’m just now starting to get the hang of it (I’m on book 33 or whatever) but it sure is frustrating at times. Especially in the wet as you say, and I haven’t even tried the rain license tests yet.

On the other hand, it is quite realistic. Look at a real life race in heavy rain and you’ll see just how careful they are, and they’re on top notch rain tyres.

 

[Sasek]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

Are you playing on wheel or DS?

 

[JOEBEEZ]

I've only done the first few license levels and gold trophies seem much more achievable compared to past GT games.

The difficulty level in general varies quite a lot depending on each individual race. I win some races by 10+ seconds on my first try while there have been a few others which needed multiple attempts, especially early on in the game when you don't have heaps of credits to mod cars.

 

[Jakes7nc]

I play on the Logitech G29 wheel and pedal set. Not the best I know, but still better than the regular controller. Like i said I am definitely far from one of the best players out there, but i still was fairly competitive in all the previous additions.
And here comes this one and I can't even manage to keep the bloody car on the road, nevermind driving a decent time in that last Special licence test...
So i just can't help but wonder how much all the newcomers are going to struggle and for how long before they also decide to just chuck the game aside and play something a bit more enjoyable...
I know Polyphony is chasing realism and all that, but really...
To come back to the comment on the difficulty aspect, I never before i all the Gran Turismo additions felt the need to complain about something until this, and even managed to play GT Sport to level 50....

 

[boomee]

No offense but the licensing has always been a difficult thing in gt games it was a long time before i got it in gt 5 and in gt1. It is what it is look for tips on how to get through becuase im sure those are comming. Games been out for like a day or 2 and your giving up?

 

[SuperSportX]

Yes that test in particular was very difficult IMO but it's not impossible. I had to turn on all assist to max and even then I still spun out a few times, try to stay on the dry parts of the track and avoid curbs if you can as the car is very twitchy and will bounce off them.

 

[Nuschel01]

Do you use a pad or a wheel?

Wheel, but I frequently play with pad players who are faster than me

 

[Mercia]

Somehow I doubt 'newcomers' will be too put off by a high tier license test that bronze will satisfy for progression purposes.

Being a bit dramatic there.

 

[JDMKING13]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

But majority people want GT to be as hardcore as ACC or Ac… I understand your frustration it just keep practicing bro it will click for you… I didn’t get fast into about 8 months in GTS GT7 has also caught me a little off guard with the physics but once you get use to the throttle inputs it’s rewarding!

 

[NICKname]

That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series

Can't be that many years, the old games were even harder.

 

[JoaoSilva]

Do you imagine a souls game fan complaining about difficulty?

I'd love to see this guy fight Orphan of Kos, he'd have a metal breakdown 😂

 

[PletdeKoe]

So 1 thing in a truly remarkable game is very hard, and you quit the entire game? Man, in the old days I didn’t even know you could get special cars for golding all licenses… And still I had a blast playing GT.

 

[DodgySyrup]

I'd imagine the bronze times are achievable for the vast majority of players.

Yes, of course, people want to get gold in everything.

But, worst case, get the license by at least finishing in the bronze time then return to try and get gold another time.

That's what I'm doing, as I'm assuming I can then move through the "campaign" as quickly as possible and unlock the multiplayer, livery editor etc...

 

[Rich2086]

Surely anyone can get bronze by slowly going around on that last test at Spa, I like that it took me over 2 hours to get gold in it, it's a challenge and rewarding when you achieve it.

 

[JoaoSilva]

If you're not fast enough you should strive to improve, not just give up.

That's why there's various levels for different caliber of players.

 

[GhostChild]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

I remember Polyphony dumbed down the physics of GT Sport a bit from initial release adding more grip in an update. I liked the initial physics because it was a challenge. Driving the Alfa 4C was interesting because it was so nervous. Then they changed it again and added a bit more realism over the dumbed down physics. I don't want the game to be easy or unrealistic because if I wanted that I would be playing Forza Horizon or other arcade games. For me it has the perfect balance between realism and realistic visuals, something that most PC sims fail to achieve.

 

[Pete_J_C]

the difficulty of tests should be hard, but easy enough to complete bronze. that way most people will find the golds a good challenge, while it is still the case as far as ive seen that passing the test with bronze allows you to progress further. win win for all types of players?

 

[Pete_J_C]

I remember Polyphony dumbed down the physics of GT Sport a bit from initial release adding more grip in an update. I liked the initial physics because it was a challenge. Driving the Alfa 4C was interesting because it was so nervous. Then they changed it again and added a bit more realism over the dumbed down physics. I don't want the game to be easy or unrealistic because if I wanted that I would be playing Forza Horizon or other arcade games. For me it has the perfect balance between realism and realistic visuals, something that most PC sims fail to achieve.

okay but have you driven an Alfa 4C in real life? more difficulty or a more twitchy nervous car is not necassarily more realistic

 

[GhostChild]

okay but have you driven an Alfa 4C in real life? more difficulty or a more twitchy nervous car is not necassarily more realistic

No I haven't. But I drive usually and in real life you have to be careful, and may be situations when you loose control on wet, the rear of the car, unexpected reactions when driving fast. GT Sport was a bit off in that regard to the point that you could go stupid fast in a turn in Nordschleife over grass and nothing happens. In real life your would be spinning off the track or hitting baarrier with bad consecuencies. Of course there's no damage in GT no need to argue about that.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

Rain is brutal in this game and compounds up to SH aren't very grippy. You have to be very careful.

Still, the license tests in the wet have been among the easiest for me and I suspect it's because the goals are much more attainable than some of the dry ones like NB-10 with the Supra.

I doubt most of these cars are specced IRL with tires equivalent to what they use in the license tests. Corvette for example would be SM at the minimum, I think.

 

[stpatty]

"I'm a long time Gran Turismo player. After getting to the final, and hardest, license test in the newest game (with a new physics model and in variable conditions) one day after it was released I tried and couldn't do it so I'm not playing it anymore and nobody else is going to"

Try actually putting some effort in and stop expecting to master and finish everything in the game instantly.

 

[GTskilled90]

Sorry but this sounds like a 12 years old. Mimimi I'm too bad and now the series is soooo bad. Gosh, internet...

 

[MatskiMonk]

I am definitely not a nube when it comes to Gran Turismo, also not one of the best out there.
That being said, GT 7 wet tracks and wet licence tests especially the final one is just bloody ridiculously difficult to complete.
To such an extent that the Gran Turismo series just lost a dedicated fan of many years past.
Definitely not a enjoyable experience anymore. I truly pitty the newcomers and inexperienced players out there. Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

Similar situation as me. Been an avid fan but average driver since the first game, and there's times already when I've had to check my wheel is functioning correctly!

Stick with it though. The thing is, we've come to view the license as just something you get out of the way, and earn a few credits along the way - rather than something that actually teaches us how to drive. Pretty much since the first game the skill of driving for the average player has largely represented relying on muscle memory, and then beating somewhat easy times. This time around the new physics requires you to learn again, you actually have to interact with what the game is telling you.

I've just done IA license final exam (AMG GT at the Nordscheife), and it occurred to me, that driving quickly in this game is going to be like balancing the narrow end of a ruler on your finger tip... it's all about fine balance. Can't say I loved the E30 M3 in the wet test, but I don't think it's been the hardest... on the flipside, one of the early tests with an EK type R at Tokyo, and the Lambo at Tokyo just feel beautiful to drive in a way I don't think cars did in GT Sport.

Compared to earlier games, mastering the car control, and not crashing or spinning is the real challenge here, getting down to the gold time will just happen as you try more and more.

I don't know what settings your wheel has, but I've turned the sensitivity of my Thrustmaster GT wheel down to about 2, and turned the FFB torque down quite a bit too, it seems to have made the cars more stable...

... and I'm using TCS 1 - which I never had to do before.

I'd venture that those using Dualsense controllers might not appreciate how significant the change in handling has been.



... having said all of that, the reason why I've not rage quit yet, is because there's a fair chance this is closer to what it's like driving road cars on the limit in real life. To begin with, it's like, "I can't believe how unstable this car is"... but then, I've never tried to get a road car, on road tyres, around a bend at 100mph before. We're used to going flat out in GT, I don't think GT7 is the same (although the license test at La Sarthe in the R92C comes at you like all hell!), but I think it's a better "simulator" for it.

 

[Kean_1]

Polyphony and Gran Turismo is going to loose a big fan base because of this....

Not likely and I'll wager GT7 does quite well as early reports are already indicating. GT games don't need to be easily accessible to everyone. Good franchises continue to die off because of this mentality I'm afraid.

I get being frustrated by certain aspects of the game but it was meant to be challenging. I'm playing on a controller and yeah, I imagine that part will be a struggle for me but I've already settled for bronze on a couple challenges simply because I didn't want to continue to try for silver / gold. On some I did decide to take a few more tries and viola, I got the gold.

I knew the challenges would get harder as I moved up so this doesn't surprise me. .....but I'm sure I'll get through it just as I have in the past.

Hell, I was never able to really nail down open wheel cars in GTS using a controller but my thought was never that they needed to make it easier for people like me. I simply didn't want to put in the time / effort that was needed to become proficient with them but I was ok with that.

 

[Canucks_9419]

"I'm not a noob", but here I also am giving up entirely within 48 hours of release! Okay then.

 

[Chris30]

I felt the same way in gt3-5. But you know after days of practice I finally got all the golds in all license tests, but it takes hard work, commitment, being dedicated to put the work in. I try to be positive about it too cause if you're negative, you will attract negative energy and things will not go smoothly. Don't give up hope!

But apparently the gold times are much tougher in gt7 because it says to unlock the gold ps4 trophy, you must acquire all golds in all the license exams.