Mayor Bloombergs SMOKING BAN

Am I the only one pissed off about NYC Mayor Bloomberg forcing a smoking ban on all bars and restaurants in NYC and the state of New York? This is a violation of individual rights and the rights of business owners to run their business as they see fit! This is ridiculous, if you want check out my bash Bloomberg site at www.BlameBloomberg.com. This law will be overturned!!
 
This has been covered, though not specifically the NYC ban. Look down a little; it generated some discussion on the topic of rights.
 
Originally posted by BlameBloomberg
Am I the only one pissed off about NYC Mayor Bloomberg forcing a smoking ban on all bars and restaurants in NYC and the state of New York?
Along with what Duke said, I'd have to say that there isn't a state in the country that doesn't have at least a few cities with a similar ban. So don't flatter yourself into believing that New York should get rid of their mayor because you like to contribute to giving people cancer. Or something.
 
BlameBloom.. did you sign up on GTP just for this one topic!:odd: haha registered on the 7th and only 1 post! Oh well anyways welome:odd: i guess.....
 
Originally posted by Axe_Gaijin
Pfft... Smokers should be shot... twice...
That was real constructive. I know plenty of good people who smoke - There are even two moderators here who smoke (or have since quit smoking) - Are you saying that they should've been shot? My dad smoked for one year back in his days - Are you suggesting that he should've been shot? Milefile used to smoke - Are you saying that he should've been shot? My great-aunt, who was my dearest relative before she died, used to smoke - Are you saying that she should've been shot? My uncle (who retired from Lockheed as one of the engineers who worked on the F-117 Nighthawk) used to smoke - Are you saying that he should've been shot? My neighbor smokes - Are you saying he should be shot?

You're 16 years older than I am - You should know better.
 
Originally posted by milefile
I thought all Europeans smoked. ALL.
I've wondered about that. Who the hell do they bum cigarettes from over there since they all smoke and no European in the United States ever actually owns a pack of cigarettes?
 
The town of Helena, our State's Capital in Montana had a ban for all inside establishments. Business owners were very upset. I was talking with a local business owner who does not allow smoking in his bar, but here is what he said:

....you know, I don't allow smoking in here, I have signs all over the place, on the doors, in the bathroom, and next to the bar. It hasn't hurt my business, and people who don't smoke like to come to my clean bar. BUT it is my choice to have no smoking in my bar. It should not be the governments choice to choose for me. I think it is a complete outrage even though I don't allow smoking in my establishment.

I totally agree with him.
 
Id like to see any government in europe try and get away with banning smoking in public, the liklyhood of them actually being able to enforce it are slim.
 
So then who agree's that smoking should be banned in public places?

I suppose I do,... even being an ex-smoker,... I felt guilty about exposing people to my filthy habit, and now that I've quit,.. I dont want to be exposed.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
So then who agree's that smoking should be banned in public places?

I suppose I do,... even being an ex-smoker,... I felt guilty about exposing people to my filthy habit, and now that I've quit,.. I dont want to be exposed.

Define Public.

Public place of a Private business? Government Funded or personal funding establishments?

Personal business owners should have the right to accept or deny smoking in their own establishment without legislation telling them what they can or can't do.
 
Originally posted by Pako
Define Public.

Public place of a Private business? Government Funded or personal funding establishments?

Personal business owners should have the right to accept or deny smoking in their own establishment without legislation telling them what they can or can't do.


Thats tough to do,.. define.

Basically, IMO,... relating to ANYTHING mind-altering or health endangering, it's all the same.

I dont think bars/night clubs/any public place you can consume alcohol should be legal,... for the same reason I think that smoking should be illegal around anyone who may be involunarily effected by it.

The ONLY place a man should have free-will to do what he pleases is on his own personal property. Now, that might sound a bit, non-american, but I think it's in the best interests of society.
 
*points to the tilte of the forum this thread is placed in*

Opinion, I gave mine.... I don't have to defend it, i don't have to be constructive. I've lost 3 family members from long cancer, in on case through secondary smoking.

Smokers should be shot, Twice.
 
Originally posted by Axe_Gaijin
*points to the tilte of the forum this thread is placed in*

Opinion, I gave mine.... I don't have to defend it, i don't have to be constructive. I've lost 3 family members from long cancer, in on case through secondary smoking.

Smokers should be shot, Twice.

I can simpithize with your situation,... but saying that smokers need to be shot,... well,... what's that saying about your loved ones who died from it?

BTW,.. I dont think it's been proven that secondery smoke causes cancer.... so,... e-hem.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
I can simpithize with your situation,... but saying that smokers need to be shot,... well,... what's that saying about your loved ones
It says he needs to be shot. He has their genes and is probably just as dangerous. Nip it in the bud now!
 
If your around a smoker, leave.
If your in a bar that allows smoking, leave.
If your working in a bar that allows smoking, find another job.
If your spouse is a smoker and will not quit, find a new spouse.

I don't like smoke, I hate bar smoke. I would love if every gig I played at was in a smoke free environment, HOWEVER, it is my choice to take gigs and play in a smoking environment.

Smoking is a filthy, expensive, and deadly habit, but that is no excuse for the legislationa to dictate what local business owners can and can't do in regards to this.
 
Originally posted by milefile
It says he needs to be shot. He has their genes and is probably just as dangerous. Nip it in the bud now!
i doubt it, the smoking ban is spreading however and you cant stop it
 
Originally posted by askia47
i doubt it, the smoking ban is spreading however and you cant stop it

Nice. This is a classic liberal socialist statement that is somehow supposed to justify something. All it demonstrates is herd mentality. Sheep all of them.

Caught in the act. I love it when it's so straight forward. They make it so easy sometimes.

Fill in the blank with whatever totalitarian, freedom robbing, big government coersion you like and the statement remains correct. Amazing.

"The _________ is spreading however and you can't stop it."

Wanna bet?
 
Originally posted by Pako
If your around a smoker, leave.
If your in a bar that allows smoking, leave.
If your working in a bar that allows smoking, find another job.
If your spouse is a smoker and will not quit, find a new spouse.

I.

I guess we'll have to agree to dis-agree then,... I see ecactly where your comming from,... but I dont think people should have that much freedom, the freedom to subject virtually anyone to the enviornment a cigerette/cigar creates.
 
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