McLaren MP4-27 launch
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We don't know where the exhaust is aimed, however. Craig Scarborough reckons that the exhaust isn't complete and that something will be added because the current fairing wouldn't stand up to the heat. It will possibly be aimed towards the rear wing, or perhaps at the brake duct area or...well. Around there somewhere. Haha
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In 2011 the Mclaren was hard on it's tyres, getting them up to temperature was easy for both of the drivers in qualifying. They had to take a really slow outlap to prevent them overheating actually. In Hungary Webber was held up by a slower Mclaren on an outlap, just one example of many.
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I think they're aiming at the rear-wing endplates; Scarbs' post on the 2012 exhaust regs suggests it could reduce drag. That sounds just like McLaren, going for the slippy setup.
Looks good; I, too, like McLaren's tendency for understatement (shiny, Magpie-baiting paint-job notwithstanding).
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It seems fairly obvious from the showcar that the exhausts are meant to point up at the wing, though I doubt this is the final exhaust iteration, and it is probably a dummy.
I really like how they sculpted the new sidepods. Just noticed how they're pinched towards the center, so that they still have a similar aero effect to the L-shaped sidepods of last year, so they're not entirely conventional. Scarbs' blog shows that it's possible the inlets could be worked to provide more air for the rear wing.
I'm now wondering what Ferrari and Red Bull will be bringing to the table. I wonder if their nose solution will be as elegant as McLaren's.
I really like how they sculpted the new sidepods. Just noticed how they're pinched towards the center, so that they still have a similar aero effect to the L-shaped sidepods of last year, so they're not entirely conventional. Scarbs' blog shows that it's possible the inlets could be worked to provide more air for the rear wing.
I'm now wondering what Ferrari and Red Bull will be bringing to the table. I wonder if their nose solution will be as elegant as McLaren's.
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I've decided that I like the MP4-27. I liked the 26 because it had a certain style to it. It was a very refined car. The 27, on the other hand, doesn't waste time with subtlety. It looks bigger and more brutal, the older brother that swoops in to defend the 26 from schoolyard bullies. I like.Try this for comparison, MP4-27 (top) and MP4-26 (bottom). Much tighter rear package - phnarr phnarr!
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Hmm... ScarbsF1 has verified that the exhausts on the showcar do indeed point upward and inward towards the rear wing. McLaren say they will still be testing this, though.
The 27 looks bulkier from the side, but slimmer from on top. Either way, I think it's fantastically sexy... or as sexy as a modern big-nose-small-arse F1 car can get, anyway.
The 27 looks bulkier from the side, but slimmer from on top. Either way, I think it's fantastically sexy... or as sexy as a modern big-nose-small-arse F1 car can get, anyway.
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I do like that the red looks more red, and the silver looks more silver. The bigger contrast really makes the car pop out at you, as well as those new black wheels with red wheelnuts. What a beautiful and aggressive looking thing. I think that the championship fight will be very different this year.
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I think the wheels and slightly more bulky front give it a more aggressive look. Sadly, they have deleted the Rear Wing number. And Im not sure if i like th ebottom part of the rear wing being Black or not.
Amused me to see Whitmarsh just sitting on what is basically, a 1 of 2, very new, very un-tested racecar.
Amused me to see Whitmarsh just sitting on what is basically, a 1 of 2, very new, very un-tested racecar.
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I think you'll find that this is just the show car, so McLaren aren't too concerned about numbering for now. No doubt the car will have a nubmer once it hits the track - there's clearly a space for it on the rear wing.
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Everyone will be running "untested" racecars. With the new exhaust and nose regs, most of the cars will be going back to the drawing board.
While McLaren have admitted the EBD regs have affected them, I see Red Bull as perhaps losing the most from this.... and their solution will be one that most people will be looking forward to seeing.
While McLaren have admitted the EBD regs have affected them, I see Red Bull as perhaps losing the most from this.... and their solution will be one that most people will be looking forward to seeing.
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I've long enjoyed the look of the McLarens. I have a diecast of Hamilton's MP4-23 as it appeared in Brazil at the end of the 2008 season, complete with his wet tires, and the thing is downright sexy. As always, I enjoy the look of the MP4-27 and so far find it to be the best-looking of the 2012 cars.
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News came up in ESPNF1.com about McLaren's exhaust and aerodynamics.
Martin Whitmarsh apparently admitted that the exhaust present on the launch car was just a plastic and is not how the real exhaust system would look like. Whitmarsh also confirmed that the car displayed at the launch will not be the same as the car that runs at the first test in Jerez, starting tomorrow. There were some aero parts still being tested in Idiada, Spain where those parts weren't present on the launch car...
It's a whole lot of question mark...
Martin Whitmarsh apparently admitted that the exhaust present on the launch car was just a plastic and is not how the real exhaust system would look like. Whitmarsh also confirmed that the car displayed at the launch will not be the same as the car that runs at the first test in Jerez, starting tomorrow. There were some aero parts still being tested in Idiada, Spain where those parts weren't present on the launch car...
It's a whole lot of question mark...
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Damn that nose is loooow compared to everything else.
Interesting. seems they're using ducting to redirect exhaust outboard to the wheels. I thought ducting was illegal? Or perhaps this is just an easy way to simulate the effects of exhaust without having to change pipes out? (Likely)
If they're pointing it at the tires... will this (literally) put heat in the tires? And would this lessen drag at high speeds?
Interesting. seems they're using ducting to redirect exhaust outboard to the wheels. I thought ducting was illegal? Or perhaps this is just an easy way to simulate the effects of exhaust without having to change pipes out? (Likely)
If they're pointing it at the tires... will this (literally) put heat in the tires? And would this lessen drag at high speeds?
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Will help put more heat in the rears for the start of the race.
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Those exhausts shrouds will probably be banned, given how strict the FIA are being on the directing of exhaust gases. I also thought the last 100mm had to be fully exposed, or is it just cylindrical?
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Not in testing. They can test 4wd if they wanted.
Yes realise all is fine in testing, but why would you test something without a view to racing it eventually? Those funnels will have been designed and built at an expense that couldn't be wasted for just test purposes surely with the RRA in place?
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So whats the deal with the Raised T-bar? Do they need a better antenna for sending more info during testing, or is it like a Stabilizer-type deal?
I know all cars run this, just curious as to what it is.
And with that pointed exhaust... Wouldnt that make the rears last not nearly as long? Hamilton doesn't necessarily need help ripping his Pirelli's to shreds. And I would imagine that JB, who is pretty easy on tyres, wouldnt be too keen on having a car which used them up faster.
I know all cars run this, just curious as to what it is.
And with that pointed exhaust... Wouldnt that make the rears last not nearly as long? Hamilton doesn't necessarily need help ripping his Pirelli's to shreds. And I would imagine that JB, who is pretty easy on tyres, wouldnt be too keen on having a car which used them up faster.
