Mid-Field Raceway Lap Times For 716 Cars!

Something doesn't seem right about this...

1:39.325 - 342 - Honda Odyssey '03
1:39.671 - 338 - Honda Element '03

They both have the exact same power and torque, but the Odyssey weighs 140 kg (309 lbs) more than the Element, and has 4 more PP...???????
 
its normally something to do with driving style
the element is a boxy piece of 🤬, while (for a van) the Odyssey is relatively stable.
Just like with the Spoon CRZ, that has just 142 hp and 1130 kg and yet has a PP of 375
 
Great Senna quote on the avatar there @SuzukaStar, Ayrton really gave it right back to Jackie Stewart on that interview.

Strangely enough, I was coming out of a restaurant last Saturday evening and nearly got run over by Jackie Stewart in his range rover :lol:, well when I say nearly run over, he drove past me about 10 feet from where I was standing and I recognised him immediately in the driver seat. But that doesn't sound as impressive :D

Still enjoying the test results @SuzukaStar But I just hope for your sake they don't add another track to the game and make you start all over again :sly:

GT6 forum a bit quiet today, guess everybody must be busy doing something else :lol: I would be as well but my copy hasn't arrived yet :grumpy::lol:
 
I've already decided this is my final test track until GT7. When I'm done here, I'm done forever.

Tested:

Toyota Celica XX 2800GT '81
Toyota Altezza RS200 '98
Toyota Soarer 430SCV '01
 
Tested:

Toyota Vitz F '99
Toyota Vitz F '12
Toyota Altezza AS200 '98
Toyota Altezza Gita AS300 '01
Toyota Aristo V300 '00
Toyota Aristo 3.0V '91
 
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Something doesn't seem right about this...

1:39.325 - 342 - Honda Odyssey '03
1:39.671 - 338 - Honda Element '03

They both have the exact same power and torque, but the Odyssey weighs 140 kg (309 lbs) more than the Element, and has 4 more PP...???????

Same power & torque peak does not mean same curve. The overall curve is what's influencing the PPs. The Element has a red line that's 500rpm higher. That alone means the calculation takes the curve between 6000 and 6500rpm into account. If power goes down in that area, it might lower PP as well.

The Element is also best when shifting well before its red line at 6000 and, doing that, in my testing both cars showed practically the same pace.
 
Aristo Battle!

1:26.931 - 438 - Toyota Aristo V300 '00
285 hp / 5,500 rpm
346 ft-lb / 3,500 rpm
1,680 kg
438 pp

1:27.603 - 434 - Toyota Aristo 3.0V '91
286 hp / 5,500 rpm
331 ft-lb / 3,500 rpm
1,680 kg
434 pp

Interesting numbers and results! The older car has more tendency to oversteer, making it better at turning into the corner, but the extra torque of the newer car is what really makes a difference here.
 
Something doesn't seem right about this...

1:39.325 - 342 - Honda Odyssey '03
1:39.671 - 338 - Honda Element '03

They both have the exact same power and torque, but the Odyssey weighs 140 kg (309 lbs) more than the Element, and has 4 more PP...???????
It must be that the Odyssey is more aerodynamic than the Element. it is more of a wedge design rather than the boxy shape of the Element. Its windshield is basically at a 90 degree angle from the hood so the air is hitting it like a flat wall therefore increasing drag.
 
All street-legal Peugeots have now been tested!

1:27.406 - 408 - Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 '85
1:29.995 - 407 - Peugeot RCZ '10
1:30.175 - 394 - Peugeot 206 RC '03
1:30.843 - 390 - Peugeot 207 GTi '07
1:32.587 - 389 - Peugeot 406 Coupé 3.0 V6 '98
1:33.239 - 369 - Peugeot 206 S16 '99
1:34.334 - 361 - Peugeot 206 CC '01
1:34.422 - 357 - Peugeot 106 S16 '03
1:34.966 - 355 - Peugeot 307 XSi '04
1:36.669 - 348 - Peugeot 106 Rallye '03
1:37.168 - 352 - Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04

All street-legal Opels also!

1:24.994 - 423 - Opel Speedster Turbo '00
1:26.975 - 403 - Opel Speedster '00
1:31.920 - 394 - Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03
1:37.452 - 334 - Opel Tigra 1.6i '99
1:41.133 - 313 - Opel Corsa Comfort 1.4 '01
 
Re-tested M3 GTR because it only beat the CSL by a tenth of a second. I beat my old GTR lap by 0.144 seconds, so now it's 3 tenths faster than the CSL. Give me the inline-6 over the V8 any day.

1:19.573 - 497 - BMW M3 GTR '03
1:19.598 - 513 - BMW M5 '08
1:19.880 - 490 - BMW M3 CSL '03
1:21.874 - 488 - BMW M3 Coupé '07
1:22.260 - 469 - BMW Z4 M Coupé '08
1:22.888 - 470 - BMW M3 '04
1:24.552 - 456 - BMW 135i Coupé '07
1:26.398 - 449 - BMW M Coupé '98
1:27.418 - 425 - BMW 330i '05
1:27.842 - 420 - BMW Z4 '03
1:31.112 - 387 - BMW 2002 Turbo '73
1:32.124 - 388 - BMW 120d '04
1:33.243 - 368 - BMW 120i '04
1:34.673 - 362 - BMW 507 '57
 
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