Mid-Field Raceway Lap Times For 716 Cars!

[88GTA]

I may be wrong, but I think the '97 FTO is the fastest.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

I may be wrong, but I think the '97 FTO is the fastest.

Why would that be? The '99 Version R has either the same PP or maybe 1 more. Same weight and power.

Edit: 1 pp more.

It's funny how PD thought it was necessary to include the FTO GPX '94, '97, and '99 when they're identical. Same with the FTO GR '94, '97, and '99. And also the GP Version R '97 and '99. That's 8 cars that should be cut down to 3.

 

[88GTA]

I don't know why, I just remember one of them being PD weird like that.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Tested the Challenger.

1:22.783 - 490 - SRT Challenger SRT8 '08
1:22.931 - 498 - SRT Charger SRT8 '11

Challenger
6.1L
425 hp / 6,000 rpm
420 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,878 kg (4,140 lbs)

Charger
6.4L
469 hp / 6,000 rpm
470 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
1,980 kg (4,365 lbs)

Charger is 225 lbs heavier, but has 44 more hp and 50 more ft-lbs of torque.

Also tested Trial Celica which ties with the Nissan Fairlady Z34.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Why would that be? The '99 Version R has either the same PP or maybe 1 more. Same weight and power.

Edit: 1 pp more.

It's funny how PD thought it was necessary to include the FTO GPX '94, '97, and '99 when they're identical. Same with the FTO GR '94, '97, and '99. And also the GP Version R '97 and '99. That's 8 cars that should be cut down to 3.

Actually, the '94 versions are a bit different from the later ones. A facelift occured in 1997, which brought some minor engine touch-up, an ECU update, a different type of optionnal LSD (viscous LSD pre-facelift, Quaife after) and other details.

As for the '97 and '99 versions, I find no interest of putting them both, as I'm not aware of any change during that time period. They would have been better of giving us the Nakaya Tune version, or at least making one of the two GPvR an Aero Series.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

I suppose I'll have to test the '97 GR and GPX to see if there's a difference from the '94s. Probably no more than a few tenths at most.

 

[GT_Alex74]

For me, that was 4 tenths for the GPX, and about a whole second for the GR

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Tested the '97 GR. It has 8 more hp and 4 more ft-lbs of torque, weight stays the same. Difference of over 6 tenths. I tried to get 1:29 but it wasn't happening for me today.

1:30.076 - 389 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '97
1:30.706 - 382 - Mitsubishi FTO GR '94

The '94 and '97 GPX have the same power and weight. Negligible difference in lap times.

1:28.529 - 401 - Mitsubishi FTO GPX '97
1:28.636 - 400 - Mitsubishi FTO GPX '94

 

[Thomas__633]

hey you got 400!!
also I saw one of your comments on AVGN

 

[MidFieldMaven]

hey you got 400!!
also I saw one of your comments on AVGN

Uh oh lol, which one?

 

[Thomas__633]

I think episode 109. I was using an alt called Beer Beer

 

[WhiterunGuard]

The Mustang Mach 1 has a top speed of 114 mph and goes down to 108 if you hit the limiter. I can't test this car with a DS3. Way to go, Ford. I can do 1:26 but I hit the limiter a few times.

What are you talking about...I'm on DS3 and it's quite easy to not use full throttle...or is there something that I'm missing?

 

[MidFieldMaven]

What are you talking about...I'm on DS3 and it's quite easy to not use full throttle...or is there something that I'm missing?

I have a lot of trouble using anything but zero throttle or full throttle. I use R2 for gas and it's hard to modulate.

 

[WhiterunGuard]

I don't see why anyone uses that...I tried it and failed miserably...X button is where I'll stick unless I scavenge a wheel from a yardsale.

 

[Thomas__633]

I use R2 and find it quite easy to modulate throttle, its a not a switch like X, more a lever that you can use more or less of.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

It's not that easy when there's a very long straightaway and you're trying to hold the max speed without hitting the limiter. Maybe I have bad muscle control.

 

[Thomas__633]

what I do is to on off the throttle very quickly.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Yea I do that too. Can be seen in some of my replays of the slowest cars. The Mustang though gave me problems. I'll attempt it again today or tomorrow.

 

[Thomas__633]

id have a go but watching MIB 3. Love the MIB series... Might try during the adverts. Its horrible to do in a X2011 prototype though

 

[MidFieldMaven]

I haven't watched MIB 2 or 3, but I liked the first one back in the day.

Tested the Mercedes 300 SL Coupe '54 and it tied with the Taurus SHO.

1:30.822 - 407 - Ford Taurus SHO '98
1:30.822 - 402 - Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupé '54

 

[GT_Alex74]

Main problem with the rev limiter is not the device, but the way the game works with rev-limiting (which is pretty bad). Even with a wheel, it can be quite hard to get just the right amount of throttle in these situations. You can't really keep the revs steady, so you have to make small adjustments constantly, and it takes only a tiny bit too much to mess it up.

As for the R2 / L2 buttons on the pad, while they are much better than buttons, they lack precision. It seems that only 50% of the stroke is really useful : when I drive the pad, being used to a very sensitive brake pedal, I sometimes find myself entering corners with no brakes at all because I put too low pressure on L2.

 

[Thomas__633]

mine is hypersensitive, and seems to put on 10-25% throttle whenever I fully apply the brakes.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Talking about pad or wheel ? If it is a wheel, and if it is a DFP / DFGT, it's quite easy to repair

 

[Thomas__633]

Battlefield 4 controller
it looks like a hybrid between an xbox and PS3 controller.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Tested:

1:31.968 - 382 - Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09
1:33.651 - 376 - Abarth Grande Punto '09

Both cars share the same 1.4L engine, but the Abarth is tuned for more torque at lower rpm.

Alfa
152 hp / 5,500 rpm
148 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,145 kg (2,524 lbs)
382 pp

Abarth
152 hp / 5,500 rpm
170 ft-lb / 3,000 rpm
1,240 kg (2,734 lbs)
376 pp

Looks like the added 210 lbs of mass really hurts the Abarth when competing with the Alfa.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Tested:

1:23.403 - 453 - Autobacs Garaiya '02
1:25.660 - 468 - Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe '04
1:33.615 - 371 - Abarth 500 '09

Abarth 500 ties with Abarth Grande Punto!

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Tested:

1:31.384 - 381 - Nissan Silvia Spec-S Aero (S15) '99
1:32.954 - 371 - Nissan Silvia Varietta (S15) '00

Separated by 1 horsepower and 130 kg (287 lbs.)

1:47.985 - 296 - Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62

The oldest Skyline in GT6 is as fast as the Volvo 240.

1:27.820 - 405 - DMC Delorean S2 '04

The handling on this car might be the best in the game.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Just beat my old Mini Cooper S '11 lap by almost 5 tenths of a second. The reason why I went back to this car was because I tested the Mini Cooper S '02 and it had actually beaten my previous '11 by a tenth of a second so I thought to myself "that can't be right..."

My game capture software is giving me problems right now. Think I need to restart the laptop but I have so many tabs open that I don't want to close yet Edit: Restarted, uploading vids now.

Tested:

1:30.126 - 403 - Mini Cooper S '11
1:30.477 - 389 - Mini Cooper S '02
1:30.599 - 391 - Mini Cooper S '05
1:43.232 - 315 - Mini One '02

Cooper S '11
180 hp / 5,500 rpm
177 ft-lb / 1,500 rpm
1,140 kg (2,513 lbs)

Cooper S '02
159 hp / 6,000 rpm
155 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
1,120 kg (2,469 lbs)

Cooper S '05
167 hp / 6,000 rpm
162 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
1,180 kg (2,601 lbs)

Also tested:

1:28.999 - 421 - Volvo S60 T-5 Sport '03

 

[Rotorist]

You are on fire sir. Keep going!

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Might not get around to more today, so here's one from last night.

1:31.414 - 401 - Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91

So far it's the worst 400+ PP car to lap Mid-Field, by 6 tenths of a second.